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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Software => Topic started by: Mat on February 23, 2021, 09:02:40 PM

Title: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: Mat on February 23, 2021, 09:02:40 PM
At MacRumors a new user is announcing, that he likes to work on a new webbrowser, based on the Classilla code.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/i-am-working-on-a-new-internet-suite-for-mac-os-9.2285093/

I suggest to let him know that a new webbrowser is appreciated, and every new software for our operating system is welcome.
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: Greystash on February 24, 2021, 02:47:04 PM
Wow nice one that's a big task. Hopefully somehow newer TLS security protocols and a more modern JS engine could be added, otherwise you would still be limited to most of the sites Classilla can already visit.

All for it though, good on them!
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: PowerFinnrich on February 26, 2021, 05:35:40 AM
At MacRumors a new user is announcing, that he likes to work on a new webbrowser, based on the Classilla code.
WOW! Thank you to share these good news!
Just read through that thread and there is also stated that Cameron Kaiser
himself plans continuing the original Classilla browser, too.

Waiting for the amazing things to come for Mac OS 9!
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: ToddH on March 26, 2021, 11:36:58 AM
Not gonna lie...if a more modern browser and email client were to become available for OS 9 I'd probably spend less time in Big Sur on my newer Mac Mini.
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: blinkfox on April 18, 2021, 04:59:00 PM
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Here's a quote from the guy that's suppositly "working on a new internet suite for mac os 9"

Quote
I shared code because, I have been failed to setup (CodeWarrior) correctly for build the project. For people that have more experience in CodeWarrior than me, can help in build and testing.

I decided to download the source code for this "new" internet suite [1] and here are all the changes that he made:

+ mozsrc/mozilla/modules/libpref/src/init/all.js

Code: [Select]
pref("browser.history_expire_days", 9);   →    pref("browser.history_expire_days", 30);
pref("browser.tabs.autoHide", true);      →    pref("browser.tabs.autoHide", false);

I think it's safe to assume that this project won't go anywhere.

[1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/millennium-suite/files/0.1/millennium%200.1a%20source.sit/download (https://sourceforge.net/projects/millennium-suite/files/0.1/millennium%200.1a%20source.sit/download)
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: Mat on April 18, 2021, 10:40:12 PM
I am sorry for being too enthusiastic. When he later wrote that he cannot build it, it was clear to me that it will not lead anywhere. But I never thought that someone who cannot setup his dev environment is announcing something publicly, … Nevertheless, it shows that the interrest is still there and that a modern webbrowser would be needed.
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: OS923 on February 04, 2022, 06:52:45 AM
Classilla will probably never be relinked. The source code is incomplete.
Title: Re: Work on a more recent Classilla?
Post by: laulandn on December 20, 2024, 02:41:20 PM
(Two years later...)

Yes, there are a lot of people with great ideas and enthusiasm who...jump the gun, so to speak, and announce a bit before there's actually anything...real.  Some seem to say they're going to fix things, without even understanding what the problems really are.

From a pure joy-of-computer-science point of view, I look a look relatively recently.  I just wanted to build the beast to learn the process, and run a browser that I'd built myself.  I have made ZERO changes/fixes/additions, nor did I aim to, but this'd make it far easier for someone out there who might. (But please please, for everyone's sake, don't make ANY announcements or say you are going to "fix things" before you've actually built it...and changed more than two lines...yourself!).

Downloads 7-10 at https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/classilla and the excellent "Building_Classilla_on_Mac_OS_X.pdf" are the results of (and help for) building the 9.3.4 sources, from some discussion over at system7today.com. See "Some supplemental notes on building..."  All the needed tools and libraries are there, including QEMU disk images of a complete system, although mostly actual hardware was used. 

It can certainly be done, although the learning curve is QUITE steep, and, dare I say, a completely insurmountable mountain if you've never built anything large.  I can't stress enough how complex an undertaking this is, but mere mortals CAN do it.  Please don't use this to create a "new browser" or "fork" or "variant" (we have too many already), but, if you're able, contribute to Cameron Kaiser's truly AMAZING inspiring work.