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General => News, Information & Feedback => Topic started by: sonicboom on October 07, 2020, 08:40:17 AM
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I'm trying to download some plug-ins for a TDM Mix+ system from the sub-forum below.
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/board,104.0.html
However, when I click on the link (SansAmp PSA-1 v1.1) it says:
The file you are trying to access is no longer available publicly.
Please contact the user who has shared this file with you.
Do I need to sign up for and log into Adrive? I'd prefer not to but if that IS the way this is set up then fine.
Also, some of the plug-ins are not hosted by Adrive (eg Altiverb) but on a FTP type websever that throws this error:
The webpage at https://cache.os.cloudstorage.secureserver.net/obj/QzUyMkFFQTlGQTZBOEE1MDdENkY6OTQ2MWFlODM0NzQ2NmQ1MTMxOTVjZTVmZjIxZWFlNzg6MTYwMjA4NTM0NTprSyUyRk1JbEFkbERWYjUwY1NWdmZBRUdmM2MlMkJJJTNEOjpBdWRpbyBFYXNlIEFsdGl2ZXJiLnNpdA== might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
Are TDM plug-ins ACTUALLY available for download here?
Thank you!
Kevin
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Try this link provided by Protools5LEGuy
(Found just under where you looked initially.)
SansAmp_ PSA-1 RTAS[k].sit copy.sit copy.sit copy
I think we moved from files on ADrive so you may
need to check "next" posts "just under" what you're
seeking?
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Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I didn't look too hard at the replies. If there was an update to the link I guess I expected it to be as obvious as the original post or maybe even incorporated into an new post with the updated link. The text size of the reply is tiny so I missed it.
However, that doesn't speak to the many other plug-ins that are not available like AltiVerb, BombFactory 1176, Fairchild, etc.
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I am guessing I better "nuke" all PT plugins sections for now until they can be "rebuilt"
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Some plugs have been reuploaded in RTAS version by me as an answer to original posts.
I think I pinned most working ones.
I cant say what is TDM compatible as I havent any TDM sys.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I didn't look too hard at the replies. If there was an update to the link I guess I expected it to be as obvious as the original post or maybe even incorporated into an new post with the updated link. The text size of the reply is tiny so I missed it.
However, that doesn't speak to the many other plug-ins that are not available like AltiVerb, BombFactory 1176, Fairchild, etc.
Until a user make a 1st post, He/she cant see the attachments/download some stuff
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After finding the original Adrive backup, here is a test...
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1039.msg3901#msg3901
If this works, I will begin the task of getting them done
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thanks Diehard!
this is awesome.
download works for me in safari, would love to see the other pinned and unpinned items updated, when you have time.
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After finding the original Adrive backup, here is a test...
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1039.msg3901#msg3901
If this works, I will begin the task of getting them done
Didn't work for me in Chrome so maybe that is the issue?
Confirmed it works with Safari.
Thank you for checking into this.
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OK... got thru a whole bunch.. will fix the rest as soon as possible.
Looking for testers... again :)
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thanks,
so far so good in safari. Firefox and chrome both fail seemingly because of some ssl TLS 1.2 issue?
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2 files showing up in the LA-2A folder, labelled the same, one larger KB, one smaller.
d2, d3, hyper prism and lexiverb still showing up as adrive links
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The 1.5 Mb worked for me on LE 5.1.1 on 001 LA2A
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All the D-FX stuff from TDM works for me on AudioSuite
Metric Halo CS is TDM/RTAS
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OK... got thru a whole bunch.. will fix the rest as soon as possible.
Looking for testers... again :)
Thank you so much for this!
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i think we could just put it all in one bundle, it is not thousands of files.
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i think we could just put it all in one bundle, it is not thousands of files.
Yeah, that sounds great, 1 huge file that has all the different PT plugins (RTAS,TDM) mixed together with no explanations or descriptions ?!
Why did I just kill 10 hours with pics and descriptions ?
.... maybe you are right... the organization of all this is way too time consuming,
maybe we should just turn everything over to the garden and nuke the site
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i think we could just put it all in one bundle, it is not thousands of files.
Yeah, that sounds great, 1 huge file that has all the different PT plugins (RTAS,TDM) mixed together with no explanations or descriptions; why did I just kill 10 hours with pics and descriptions.... maybe you are right... the organization of all this is way too time consuming, maybe we should just turn everything over to the garden and nuke the site
I am grateful for this, happy to help as well...
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To clear the stuff...
We have older versions of the TDM stuff here https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/os9-daw-software-kit-pro-tools-plugins-tdm-rtas-vst-audiosuite-mas
DieHard has newer versions, but they are more specific.
THe package from the garden is 99 age while the stuff from us is 00-04
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In that package everything is sorted in MAS, RTAS, MIX, TDM and TDM+
But the autotune RTAS from there didnt worked on LE 001 while it worked on AM-III and I had a more modern ones...
I have also more modern than 99 stuff.
Give me this weekend and I will get the best RTAS I have and make them in a more detailed post if I can.
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i think we could just put it all in one bundle, it is not thousands of files.
Yeah, that sounds great, 1 huge file that has all the different PT plugins (RTAS,TDM) mixed together with no explanations or descriptions ?!
Why did I just kill 10 hours with pics and descriptions ?
.... maybe you are right... the organization of all this is way too time consuming,
maybe we should just turn everything over to the garden and nuke the site
Hey I just dropped $10 in your bucket for your continued efforts. Thanks again.
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In that package everything is sorted in MAS, RTAS, MIX, TDM and TDM+
But the autotune RTAS from there didnt worked on LE 001 while it worked on AM-III and I had a more modern ones...
I have also more modern than 99 stuff.
Give me this weekend and I will get the best RTAS I have and make them in a more detailed post if I can.
thanks for offering to do this!
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Hey DH, refresh my memory... those plugins with descriptions I uploaded a couple times back in the day were lost in a crash, right? We’ve been sitting on lots of plugins for a long time. I personally have two huge archives of plugins, one of whom was sent to me by PTLE. The other one has more goodies that I haven’t found anywhere else. There’s got to be some serious sorting through these two archives to not have any overlap. But on the other hand, it’d be easier to have both are one very large archive.
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I am willing to help sort these if there is interest.
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From my part I will try fo find&catalog EVERY RTAS plug/ and every AS I have at my disposal. But the TDM/MIX stuff will have to be cataloged by someone else.
There are to my knowledge various plug packs that were in eMule years ago.
One that I am thinking about uploading (because is newer than the one in MG) is 52 RTAS
My testing board is Digi 001&5.1.1 LE and will update later if 5.2.1LE breaks compatibility with plugs.
On a second stage I am willing to kill the myth about some stuff running on AM/III vs Digi 001 vs M-Box
On a third stage I will test on PT Free.
It came to my attention that there is a hacked PT 5 in the "Awesome" MG pack that maybe give LE capabilities to "PowerMix" (No Digidesign hardware) that perhaps is different than PT 5 Free... Please someone TDM/MIX help here
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It came to my attention that there is a hacked PT 5 in the "Awesome" MG pack that maybe give LE capabilities to "PowerMix" (No Digidesign hardware) that perhaps is different than PT 5 Free... Please someone TDM/MIX help here
Maybe it is different than the one that MacTron pointed out years ago
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The testing board is 5.1.1 LE and will update later if 5.2.1LE breaks compatibility with plugs.
The difference in "LE 5.1.1 vs LE 5.2.1" is that the later have 32 tracks vs 24 on 5.1.1
What I believe is screwed is the user of HD & probably Digi 002 too because they need 5.3.x and probably there the "Awesome" RTAS cant run.
There is a urban legend that some plugs run on some version.
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Why did I just kill 10 hours with pics and descriptions ?
.... maybe you are right... the organization of all this is way too time consuming,
maybe we should just turn everything over to the garden and nuke the site
Dear DieHard the subject is really complex as you can see.
Protools is a software that covers a lot of hardware from cheap to $$$ and I only own the cheapest ones. Digi 001, AudioMedia III and M-Box. Those systems runs LE 5.0.1+, but the AM3 can also run PT 4 without TDM but can with AS.
Also TDM is not the same that MIX (More modern AKAIK) and not the same that HD.
There is also more older Digidesign stuff from 2 tracks to 4 to 16 before Protools itself. It is pinned somewhere here a video showing all the generations of Digi hardware.
For a given version of a plug there could be up to 3 versions (TDM, RTAS and AS) and one TDM user focus on TDM plugs only while I focused on RTAS on my platforms. BT focused only on AS on a MIX setup with Logic, Knez and Syntho on MIX/TDM... Everyone end using what is best for him/gear. So someone list cannot be cool for other user.
To complicate things even further on a TDM setup you can run RTAS+TDM+AS
DUY stuff have separated AS, RTAS and TDM versions
Metric Halo Channel Strip is RTAS+TDM on the same package.
So we have to follow DieHard rules and Take a picture of the Plug working+description+developer+version number and please point in what Digi System+ PT version. On the pictures you can see if the plug is used as TDM, RTAS or AS as confirmation (I should stop making Apple Cinema HD size screenshots)
@vectrex you can try the MG "Awesome" pack to compare plugs versions with what DH just uploaded.
@Syntho can we put all we have collected to light? Cant remember if I sent you the 52RTAS, The Goods (Awesome MG) or my AM-3 curated RTAS
@DieHard maybe we have to add also a MIX section (aside AS, RTAS and TDM) based on user reports if all end up sorted. I propose to have in the same place manuals + all consecutive versions (ej; v1+v1.1) and try to clarify among versions. Bomb factory has various numbered targeted versions, as Focusrite d2/d3.
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Happy to help out. Count me in.
I run Logic 6 with Digi's outboard gear on my G4 MDD and a newly acquired
Logic 4 with the Digi 001 on a Gigabit dual 500Mhz graphite G4.
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back in the days i have sorted through all your random TDM uploads and merged them in my own collection, only to find out that there was nothing new, because the number of TDM products was quite limited anyway in OS9 times (later it went to >1500)
we have discussed this same story 5 years ago and eveyone wanted to help sorting things.
otoh, most protools users already know by heart which plugins work on their system and which not, so it is questionable if one really should make collections where you distinguish between HD, mix, and PT 4 stuff and offer individual downloads for the 100 or so random guests which might buy and old protools system but dont know about it.
if you have a protools system at home and you want to know if "supercompressor" works on your system you can download it in 1 second, unstuff it in 7 second, install it in 10 seconds, then start protools (takes some 12 second), then open the plug-in (takes about 4 second) and see if it works.
you dont need to have a group of forum admins and website owners doing that for you.
if we support lazyness that way we will end up with people who complain when the information was not correct or blame you for their music sucks or their kitchen is dirty.
there are also VST plug-ins or photoshop plug-ins which do not work in every host. nobody cares about that. not even the manufacturers.
steinberg PPG VST 2.1 doesnt work correctly in steinberg nuendo VST 2.1, imagine that. nobody puts it in an extra folder because of that.
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3 new uploads on RTAS section:
The emule 2006 pack that was called 52 RTAS
A curated 001/AMIII pack
Amplitube RTAS
Happy to help out. Count me in.
I run Logic 6 with Digi's outboard gear on my G4 MDD and a newly acquired
Logic 4 with the Digi 001 on a Gigabit dual 500Mhz graphite G4.
So you have a TDM and a LE setup? Or a MIX and a LE?
Running Logic 6 with Digi outboard means you use Logic only enjoying AudioSuite plugins inside Logic (BT school). Please install Protools 5 TDM to check TDM plugs and AudioSuite in PT TDM as a bigger test lab than just Logic&AS
We also need Protools (5) Free users and Protools 4 users, aside MIX/TDM testers.
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otoh, most protools users already know by heart which plugins work on their system and which not, so it is questionable if one really should make collections where you distinguish between HD, mix, and PT 4 stuff and offer individual downloads for the 100 or so random guests which might buy and old protools system but dont know about it.
if you have a protools system at home and you want to know if "supercompressor" works on your system you can download it in 1 second, unstuff it in 7 second, install it in 10 seconds, then start protools (takes some 12 second), then open the plug-in (takes about 4 second) and see if it works.
My approach with RTAS is the same you use with extensions. Keep'em all.
If you boot PT TDM you enjoy MOST of the platforms (RTAS, AS, TDM) but if you boot PT LE some plugs can hang the machine. Even some AS need DSP to work while others don't.
In my 001 plugs pack there are more plugs than the ones that runs, but at least they don't hang the machine, so the time I have invested in testing and keeping them in plug folder means they are stable or in 001 or in AMIII. My list will make other LE users go quicker in their setups just like InstantDAW .
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yes of course, if you try all 100 for the first time you will have to reboot a few times. :)
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A PT archive that I have has Mix TDM plugs, old TDM (like non-Mix PT III/4 plugs) and RTAS plugs. Plus lots of VST, stuff specific for DP and lots of other goodies.
The other archive I got from PT5LE and I guess he thought I took it and ran. Nope, I spent like 2 entire 8 hour days testing, screenshotting and making descriptions for the TDM stuff. I uploaded them a couple different times and they still seem to be lost.
I’m not sure I have a lot of time to sort through all of it again, but on the other hand, I don’t see why we can’t just upload the archives as-is. Still waiting on DH to get back with FTP info.
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The file attachment size on the forum is big enough that I can upload both archives but I think I’d rather do this on the back end just in case. I could give DH a call but don’t think he’s at work today.
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Ok turns out DH answered. I didn’t know this but the plugs I uploaded 3 years ago survived. DH found them and those are the ones he reuploaded in the last few days. I will have FTP info shortly to upload the rest of my archives.
WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER?
After these plugs are uploaded we need some people to sort through them, test, screenshot, write a description for, plus stuff with StuffIt (and most importantly bin) the files individually.
TDM, VST, MAS, 2trk software and all kinds of other stuff needs this treatment.
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I am interested in helping.
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Instructions for uploading:
1) Test plugins/software.
2) If working, grab a screenshot of it in action.
3) Find or write a description for the plugin and save as .txt.
4) Stuff the plugin with StuffIt deluxe, and make sure to encode it as a bin (MacBinary). That’s all in StuffIt Delixe’s menu.
5) Put the bin, screenshot and txt file all in a folder, naming the folder what the plugin is called
6) upload to ftp.
Take a look at all of the current plugins for how things are set up as far as screens and descriptions for an idea.
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where do I get the ftp creds?, what archive do you want me to start with from the ones you are uploading to the ftp?
I have a mix system.
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Im awaiting DH’s command. The main thing it sort is all in the TDM Mix folders. There are multiple sets in there with some overlap, so go through them and grab the latest working copy that you see. The rest of the stuff being uploaded is already sorted but needs to be tested, screenshotted etc. We’ll let you know.
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ok thanks.
is there a proper list via wayback or other sources of the TDM/RTAS catalog? I tried searching, but couldnt find the reference to the 'full list' on the old digidesign.com site.
I have this brochure from probably the year 2000 that lays out the TDM and RTAS plugins and compatibility of the time.
This might be common knowledge among seasoned users, but maybe it would be useful to see the chart. If there is interest, I can scan the brochure (includes writeups and b&w images of the interfaces). Just a thought..
Images attached, i know they are shit, just there to give you a sense of what i am talking about
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I have a mix system.
Check https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/os9-daw-software-kit-pro-tools-plugins-tdm-rtas-vst-audiosuite-mas and compare it with our Downloads in TDM section by now.
I am making the RTAS part, please revise TDM&Mix plugs
ok thanks.
is there a proper list via wayback or other sources of the TDM/RTAS catalog? I tried searching, but couldnt find the reference to the 'full list' on the old digidesign.com site.
LE
http://archive.digidesign.com/download/plugs/lemac.cfm
MIX
http://archive.digidesign.com/download/plugs/mixmac.cfm
HD
http://archive.digidesign.com/download/plugs/hdmac.cfm
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I think I might have one of those guises stores away too. That’ll be good for reference. Check your PM vectrex.
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ok great!
Again, without any ignorance toward what already exists on the digidesign archive, here is a compatibility list (circa 2000?) that is easy to read and readily available for the next person that might be searching. Might be a few outliers of what we dont already have, but I think it accurately reflects what is currently in the download archive.
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install one by one, try if it works. that is less than 2 hours work for the 100 PT plugs. i´ve done that with about 80,000 products.
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what was the name of that weird standalone RTAS player host app? i think from gallery tools or antares?
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From my part I will try fo find&catalog EVERY RTAS plug/ and every AS I have at my disposal.
But the TDM/MIX stuff will have to be cataloged by someone else.
... 5.2.1LE breaks compatibility with plugs.
On a second stage I am willing to kill the myth about some stuff running on AM/III vs Digi 001 vs M-Box
On a third stage I will test on PT Free.
As always, there is more than one angle to attack this task. I am liking the PT5 "Instant Plugs" approach more and more; that is, instead of making a post per plugin, per type (RTAS,TDM,AS) to download, we can appoint 3 or 4 members to pre-test and make a single SIT and BIN file for each major category with all working plugins.
So PT5 with do the definitive "Instant RTAS" installer for PT 5.2.1 LE" that will contain every working plugin in a single .SIT.BIN with a full listing of all the contained plugins with version numbers, and a short description their purpose, also any directions and notes. This will get posted as a single download board. PT can also do the PT Free Mega bundle subset or maybe another member can do it ?
We will need a separate member to do this for TDM and another member for AS,
also, anyone that wants to do this for any other major category like a bundle that works with Logic, etc. would be great.
So guys, please decide who will do each, Syntho may be able to do this for earlier versions like PT3 or PT4
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The old, and I mean OLD plugins for PT can’t be tested as I don’t have a PTIII rig anymore. However some of them still work on Mix systems, some don’t. Vectrex is taking care of the TDM Mix side of things so we’ll see about the older stuff after the first batch of sorting is done.
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As always, there is more than one angle to attack this task. I am liking the PT5 "Instant Plugs" approach more and more; that is, instead of making a post per plugin, per type (RTAS,TDM,AS) to download, we can appoint 3 or 4 members to pre-test and make a single SIT and BIN file for each major category with all working plugins.
So PT5 with do the definitive "Instant RTAS" installer for PT 5.2.1 LE" that will contain every working plugin in a single .SIT.BIN with a full listing of all the contained plugins with version numbers, and a short description their purpose, also any directions and notes.
I made that post as a installer guide for new installation over Cubase Instant DAW. The guide covers LE 5.1.1 and 5.2.1 on DIGI 001 100%, probably covers AM3 and M-Box user and should be used as template for MIX/TDM and FREE users
PT can also do the PT Free Mega bundle subset or maybe another member can do it ?
Time will tell. By now very tired because of the 001 RTAS marathon. Seeing all this Goods and my stuff there is a lot of things to be tested on PT4-5.0.x that were kicked out on 5.1 I believe. TDM and MIX in 8.6 is the perfect environment for these Plugs and I can only thank developers (and crackers) for all the RTAS legacy
We will need a separate member to do this for TDM and another member for AS,
also, anyone that wants to do this for any other major category like a bundle that works with Logic, etc. would be great.
So guys, please decide who will do each, Syntho may be able to do this for earlier versions like PT3 or PT4
I have already "cleaned" your Cubase Instant DAW mega VST folder to work on LOGIC. It was also a big time kicking out plugs, so , in the near future, will make a post about what needs to be kicked to enjoy your Cubase VST folder on Logic.
That is another subject different than the AudioSuite folder that they can/should build for Logic + Digi hardware.
As you can see in my post a lot of RTAS plugs behave as AS too, so they could take my RTAS folder as starting point
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@Syntho can we put all we have collected to light? Cant remember if I sent you the 52RTAS, The Goods (Awesome MG) or my AM-3 curated RTAS
Sorry, missed this message until now. 'The Goods' is all that I got from you, I didn't know you even had those other archives. I uploaded The goods earlier, but combined with some additional TDM Mix sets that I acquired in the past and vectrex is sorting through them.
There are also at least two other archives that we need to sort through though. DH just uploaded a couple to Google Drive (I think they're 99% duplicates though), and the other humungous pack is posted at the garden located here: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ppc-audio-software-os7-osx58-some-68k-apps
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Finished basic sorting/organizing of the TDM+Mix Set 1 and TDM+Mix Set 2 (w/ sub folders ToSort 1-3). Is this 'the goods' folder I am working from Syntho?
Didn't touch non-mix, stuck to just those 2 folders, as instructed.
I have found it has been easiest to organize based on manufacturer using the chart I shared above and supplementing it with new/other manufacturers/plugs not on the list. We can separate things into 'genres' of FX later for the packs once it is all re-anthologized.
Sorting took a while, have yet to test. Will try today. Did basic sorting of presets in those TDM+ folders as well, will crosscheck with plugs in the dl section that didn't have presets included.
I grabbed those other shared bins of G Drive as well.
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We need Adobe Premiere users. We need MOTU Digital Performer users also!
@part12studios @devilsadvisor
The Goods have a good amount of Motu Audio System (M.A.S. or MAS) plugs. Also Premiere plugins. There is a urban legend about mixing VST stuff with Premiere stuff that needs to be killed too.
About the presets folder...
This post Presets MegaPack. http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,5707.0.html
We have to test this also with the new plugs if we find different presets Generations . I think our presets are PT 4 age, and my PT 5 LE set of plugs never looks for the presets on its place... (?)
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I have found it has been easiest to organize based on manufacturer using the chart I shared above and supplementing it with new/other manufacturers/plugs not on the list. We can separate things into 'genres' of FX later for the packs once it is all re-anthologized.
The manufacturers plugs should be united in a pack where possible. I mean, all Bomb Factory (1176+LA2A+Voce(Spin+Chorus VIb))+moogerfoger+SansAmp) can be packed, all GRM, all McDSP(Analog Channel+Filter Banks+CompressorBank+MC2000), all MOTU.
Also a Time+Pitch Expansion Compresion AudioSuite pack with all my working (Serato Pitch'nTime+MOTU+Speed by Wave Machanics+Pitch'nTime 2 Imaginary Gadgets+ Digidesign one) could come in handy.
And for sure TDM would say "What about this or that Time Compression AS plug?" All I mentioned WORKS on 001 and are the most modern versions I have found.
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Will do, there was some discussion about sorting methods regarding this, but I think we will verify all is in order first based on your suggestions.
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Downloading "PPC-Audio software (OS7-OSX.5.8, some 68K apps" DVD from MG just because the Koblo, Alchemy, Ambisone, Antares AudioStream, shit.
Also has old friends from eMule age :
32 AudiosuitePluins(k).sit
56 AudiosuitePlugins(k).sit
Just to check all available versions of plugins. Maybe in a future a TDM user may need them sorted.
Also lot of cubase+logic+performer stuff there. Way too much for my eyes.
Would love to see what Syntho has that isn't in The Goods or this DVD
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Finished basic sorting/organizing of the TDM+Mix Set 1 and TDM+Mix Set 2 (w/ sub folders ToSort 1-3). Is this 'the goods' folder I am working from Syntho?
Mix Set 1 is ‘The Goods’. The Mix Set 2 with the 4 different archives in it are the ones I added. That’s what needs to be sorted most.
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What worked for you in your RIG?
I guess a lot of TDM/MIX stuff aside what I mentioned on the 001 pack I consolidated.
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Also Vectrex (and PTLE), those 4 folders in Mix Set 2 were all salvaged from working TDM systems. They were the Plugins folders pulled from the System folders of those Macs, so be aware that the plugins in all of those folders will have a mixture of TDM Mix, RTAS and AS.
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What worked for you in your RIG?
I guess a lot of TDM/MIX stuff aside what I mentioned on the 001 pack I consolidated.
If I have to be honest, I don’t even use plugins with the exception of sound replacer. I’m OTB nearly entirely :) but I do know that just about everything I uploaded in my archives works on TDM Mix systems.
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I know by other TDM users that Aphex Aural Exciter is awesome
Drawner
Apogee
Too much stuff to ignore, even OTB
I guess that this is a "LE" feeling. If I had them I will be using that and Beat Detective daily.
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I have the outboard versions of Drawmer and Aphex gear, so no need to use plugins. For a person that doesn't though, yeah, there's some good stuff in there.
PS: That DVD from MG... holy shit. It's got so many random goodies in it. And older stuff I've seen people looking for forever.
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:'(
Real stuff never replaces virtual. But the electricity needed to have a cool studio running console + PREs + is prohibitive.
Even if I had board to MIX OTB I would use Drawner TDM on every return as a "Heat" summing box.
I guess what we end up loving Protools platform as a glorified multitrack recorder ITB or OTB
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I should know this by now but I don’t deal with files this large usually. I downloaded that DVD in OSX with no problems. Then I was trying to copy it to my old 9600 and it gives me a 309 error. Then I remembered that the file size limit in OS9 is 2gb. Does that mean I won’t be able to copy it and store it on an OS8/9 system? I could just break it up if I needed to and re-image it into smaller chunks.
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Confirmed that this folder works flawlessly on Audiomedia III with Protools 5.1.1 LE
No need to reinstall, just drag and drop.
Just the Bomb Factory wont work on FREE, so after you download this folder delete BombFactory folder and you are finish.
Please TDM TEAM confirm if this folder works for you on drag and drop.
I tried to install Protools 5.0.1 LE but in my install didn't started the App getting hang.
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Then I remembered that the file size limit in OS9 is 2gb.
2000 :)
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Real stuff never replaces virtual. But the electricity needed to have a cool studio running console + PREs + is prohibitive.
difficult comparison & in an ideal case you have both.
a first generation aphex exciter or a first generation SPL vitalizer (black) is 50$, uses 4 watts of power and works without computer or before A/D conversion.
with such prices and such power consumption values you can easily run 8 of them before you do 16 channels A/D.
i just bought 4 analog graphic EQs for 200 euro.
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So PT5 with do the definitive "Instant RTAS"
exactly, for PT LE we could make an instant DAW installer for the mac mini. :)
an instant sounddiver installer would also be great, of course with thousands of patches for all the hardware synths ready in libraries.
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Hey everyone, just updating to say I am poking away at this, not as fast as PT5LEGuy :D but I will have some results soon as far as cross checking, I think there may be a lot of cross over with existing plugs that already work well, but at least with this 'fine tooth comb' method we can cross things off the list and rule out that we havent missed anything.
As an aside, I have been sorting on a TiBook using this, and have found it to be invaluable to transferring these large archives quickly over e-sata:
(https://sep.yimg.com/ca/I/firmtek_2255_4860367)
https://firmtek.stores.yahoo.net/sata1sm2.html
Going to the Tibook from OSX on a USB3/esata enclosure and then to my main rig using ESata to ESata using an external esata connector hooked up to a sonnet card in a MDD.
might seem obvious, but its worth the investment if anyone had ever considered it. I have the drivers for the PCMCIA card if anyone ever needs them.
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what was the name of that weird standalone RTAS player host app? i think from gallery tools or antares?
reFuse or ugly?
That was about running VST on RTAS IIRC
I am going to give you the prize for most offtopic in a row of the years. A dedicated post.
So PT5 with do the definitive "Instant RTAS"
exactly, for PT LE we could make an instant DAW installer for the mac mini. :)
GOD !!! IT is just 2 steps!!!!
1 Install over your favorite Mac OS 9 distro (I choose Cubase Instant DAW) ProTools FREE http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,851.0.html
(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,851.0.html)
2 Drag'n'drop over /Systemfolder/DAE/PlugIns the attachment of this post http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,5716.msg42587.html#msg42587
DONE
Hey everyone, just updating to say I am poking away at this, not as fast as PT5LEGuy :D but I will have some results soon as far as cross checking, I think there may be a lot of cross over with existing plugs that already work well, but at least with this 'fine tooth comb' method we can cross things off the list and rule out that we havent missed anything.
It may be.
The plugs that are optional install on 5.1.1 LE are mostly demos. From memory are> Chorus, Flanger, 2 delays and Focusrite d2 and d3 TDM demo(?) . When I tried to open protools with them installed my computer hangs, so maybe are TDM demos. Most D-FX (Digidesign internal) were free on 5.3 or 6..x.
Back in the day people could buy LE with Bomb Factory, but some/most were iLoked.
There are others digidesign plugs that I included a (k) version that worked with a serial. MP3 come to mind but there could be others.
On the Goods and that DVD from the garden are some plugs that include the installer + the (k) to use. What I included in my pack is just drag and drop. All resources are inside the plug.
Originals could:
Work only iLoked They are out of my study
Work in demo for 7 or 15 days Can be cleaned with MacTron Method
Need resources from somewhere out of Plugs folder
But mostly drop something on /System/Extensions that makes the plug itself no value without them.
I include here PlugSound, Waves and others that either need challenge/response or serial.
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For sure an Original ProTools Instant DAW with original plugs without iLok is possible, but out of Free demos and D-Verb (In Floppy Disk) I have no originals to share. Maybe once the plug is authored it can be Drag'n'droped or they need added files, but if someone has lots of TDM 3.5 inches disks it worth to clone.
Years ago a TDM user showed us an method (Monte?) for systems with plugs authorized. But we ended talking about ancient methods of cloning diskettes with hardware on PC for Mac ???
Serial Reader and iSerial have lots of serials + method to patch Apps & plugs and should be considered a Bible for serials.
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After everyone going through their archives recently, I realize that the problem is much bigger than I realized since PT stuff is only a small part of the puzzle. There's a goldmine of other software out there that I didn't even know I wanted after taking a look recently.
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all RTAS are available as fullcrack.
the problem begins when you try to mix cracks, legit copies and demos on the same machine or run different versions of protools side by side. :)
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For sure an Original ProTools Instant DAW with original plugs without iLok is possible, but out of Free demos and D-Verb (In Floppy Disk) I have no originals to share. Maybe once the plug is authored it can be Drag'n'droped or they need added files, but if someone has lots of TDM 3.5 inches disks it worth to clone.
This would be an interesting way to approach it that may leave all authorizations working correctly...
1) Start with Diehard DAW
2) Install a specific version of ProTools
3) Extract PT5's Bundle (his hard work) into the Plugins folder
4) Work on the ones that are NOT cracks and authorize them via Floppy or Original overburn CD Media
5) Fill in rest with (K) versions
6) Test ALL
7) Create a New ASR version (this should preserve the authorizations from the floppys)
since IIO suggested a new ASR, I am hoping he has the time :)
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i see my responsibility more in an upgrade for the VST version ;)
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Years ago a TDM user showed us an method (Monte?) for systems with plugs authorized. But we ended talking about ancient methods of cloning diskettes with hardware on PC for Mac ???
That post http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,3007.0.html (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,3007.0.html) is now on ProTools if any user wants more info
This would be an interesting way to approach it that may leave all authorizations working correctly...
1) Start with Diehard DAW
2) Install a specific version of ProTools
3) Extract PT5's Bundle (his hard work) into the Plugins folder
4) Work on the ones that are NOT cracks and authorize them via Floppy or Original overburn CD Media
5) Fill in rest with (K) versions
6) Test ALL
7) Create a New ASR version (this should preserve the authorizations from the floppys)
since IIO suggested a new ASR, I am hoping he has the time :)
ASR is rocket science for us. Maybe DieHard can say how the west was won how he did Cubase Instant DAW . I guess is on script once you have ASR. But not sure if that script folder is included on ASR.
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of course, if hardware bound copy protections causes trouble, one could combine 1 ASR install and 1 additional regular installers.
in my opinion ASR and "normal" installers/downloadable files will never replace each other, it is too different methods for different use cases.
unless we will one day make one which contains *ALL* software which was ever available for OS9. but even then an ASR installer is not what you need when parts of your install broke and you need to reinstall applications without deleting all your private files.
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sometimes i think it would be nice to have symbolic links in OS9 so that you could offer drag installs that way.