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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Hardware => Storage => Topic started by: geforceg4 on September 23, 2016, 05:50:18 PM

Title: firewire adapter for ZIP drives????
Post by: geforceg4 on September 23, 2016, 05:50:18 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-31149-Zip250-Firewire-Adapter/dp/B00004Y2ZV (https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-31149-Zip250-Firewire-Adapter/dp/B00004Y2ZV)

this is news to me, i didnt know that the ZIP250 drive can act as a FIREWIRE device?
is there a FW400 firewire version of the ZIP100 aswell??? just because that might actually be really usable for mac os 9...

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In  my opinion, anyone else should go for the USB version of the Zip 250, and  add on a FireWire adapter when it becomes available.
Why?
Well, the Zip 250 USB with FireWire is simply the most flexible Zip out there.  You can use it on literally any system that has at least USB ports, can  achieve the lightning speeds of internal SCSI Zips if the computer has  FireWire ports--and you don't have to sacrifice a scrap of portability.  While the Zip 100 here can be fitted out with a FireWire adapter, it can't  use Zip 250 disks.  True, the Zip 250 is mysteriously slower than a Zip 100  if the files are something above 10mb.  But you'll never notice the  difference with the vast majority of files. What you will notice if you  spend any time seriously archiving your work is how nice it would be to  have a little bit more room on a 100mb disk.  The Zip 250 solves that  problem by giving you a lot more room to play in.  In particular, the 250s  are obviously better-suited to sharing larger multimedia files between  computers, or even between platforms.  Finally, the 250 simply LOOKS  cooler.  Those looks even translate into utility, because its trim profile  really does make it a little easier to carry.
In fairness I should point  out that the 100mb appears to have a substantially lower price tag.  But  it's not, really.  You pay on average 1.5 times as much for Zip 100 disks  (per megabyte of storage space) than for Zip 250s.  Long term, your storage savings with a Zip 250 more than make up for the up-front difference between the two models.

hmm this is actually really usefull info......
i think they did one for the JAZ drive too
model numbers are
ZIP1394a + JAZ1394a
https://www.google.ca/search?q=JAZ1394a&num=30&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1iJ6H6KbPAhUR0IMKHbiIAo8Q_AUICSgC&biw=1184&bih=916
https://www.amazon.com/IOMEGA-ZIP1394A-EXTERNAL-Adapter-Z250USBPCM/product-reviews/B0039O72SM

(http://s192804805.onlinehome.us/ebayimages/lister4_9_13/xl_Iomega_Zip_250_MB_USB_External_Drive_Z250USBPCM_Windows_Mac_PN_04160D01_(6).jpg)

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3467.0;attach=3701;image)

(http://web.archive.org/web/20001210003200/http://www.iomega.com/support/manuals/firewire/images/man_zipfw_connect_to_sybil.gif)

(http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/zip/zip250usb/images/zipfire.jpg)

http://web.archive.org/web/20040414112801/http://www.iomega.com/zip/which_zip.html
Title: Re: firewire adapter for ZIP drives????
Post by: geforceg4 on September 23, 2016, 05:57:50 PM
i wonder if the 750mb version can also be adapted to function with firewire 400?

or did they sell a full fledge firewire version?
https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-32450-750MB-Firewire-Drive/dp/B00006JHY0 (https://www.amazon.com/Iomega-32450-750MB-Firewire-Drive/dp/B00006JHY0)
whats this?
Title: Re: firewire adapter for ZIP drives????
Post by: nanopico on September 23, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
It's a firewire to scsi adapter basically.  I have a welkin adapter that allows me to plug a scsi device into a firewire port on my computers.

Also the 250 and 750 were both available in a firewire version.

Title: Re: firewire adapter for ZIP drives????
Post by: geforceg4 on September 23, 2016, 07:41:14 PM
It's a firewire to scsi adapter basically.  I have a welkin adapter that allows me to plug a scsi device into a firewire port on my computers.

Also the 250 and 750 were both available in a firewire version.

right firewire to scsi is easy to understand, but how do they do USB 1.1 to FIREWIRE ? and still have some type of speed increase over the really slow speed? the 250 + 750 are both USB drives!!!! or maybe theres USB only + SCSI only versions? the only versions ive seen have been usb so far of the 250 + 750 zip while googling for info
Title: Re: firewire adapter for ZIP drives????
Post by: geforceg4 on September 23, 2016, 07:54:22 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20000304161943/http://www.iomega.com/products.html
heres the iomega product lineup from 2003..
seems like the 750 drive wasnt out at that time yet

zip products from 2001:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011213222958/http://www.iomega.com/zip/index.html
ok here we see there are alot more variety then i was aware of....

heres the accessories listed frm 2004:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040414023216/http://www.iomega.com/solutions/accessories.html

Title: Re: firewire adapter for ZIP drives????
Post by: geforceg4 on September 24, 2016, 12:16:03 AM
http://lowendmac.com/2015/low-end-macs-compleat-guide-to-zip-drive-and-disks/

this page looks relative to this thread

this article too:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/generation,567-2.html

looks like the zip750 was brand new in the summer of 2002
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/2389304106/iomega750mbzip
theres some speed specs quoted on this page..
7.5MB/s for usb2.0 vs 0.8 MB/sec for usb 1.1

zip to pcmcia:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010224065342/http://www.iomega.com/support/manuals/zip2u/inst_drive_pcm.html

zip firewire adapter:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001209215900/http://www.iomega.com/support/manuals/firewire/get_start.html