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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Topic started by: DieHard on June 14, 2015, 08:12:06 PM

Title: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: DieHard on June 14, 2015, 08:12:06 PM
Found this while surfing around... Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9

Our Emagic Sound Diver 3 may be more useful... but this baby runs on 68K Macs also

New in the Box !

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Opcode-Edit-One-Editor-Librarian-for-Mac-OS-7-8-9/257731329

also found this company that has new vintage MIDI Software

http://www.midiguy.com/oaks/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_34&zenid=43e692fc691fdb2ee19c7ba1a5218a60

Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Philgood on June 14, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
 -afro-

Thank you DieHard
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: supernova777 on June 17, 2015, 10:49:40 PM
its like a "lite" version of Galaxy.. budget version.
galaxy is the real deal.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: DieHard on June 18, 2015, 11:21:27 AM
I know that, but I don't think our version of Galaxy runs on System 7 (or 68K macs), maybe I am wrong ?

I posted this for people like Syntho :)
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: supernova777 on June 18, 2015, 02:14:26 PM
i believe it should..
remember galaxy + vision are both apps from the early-mid 90s
they predate all the usb macs by a longshot
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: supernova777 on June 18, 2015, 02:15:47 PM
would be interesting to use galaxy or this to use wavestation/m1 editor and see if it works with the virtual korg vst version connected via midi to a VST host running on osx
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: GaryN on June 18, 2015, 03:21:30 PM
I know that, but I don't think our version of Galaxy runs on System 7 (or 68K macs), maybe I am wrong ?


I'm old, but to the best of my recall, Galaxy is happy in System 7. I think the practical "boundary" is that it needs Multifinder to work effectively.

The "Edit One" stuff were brief "bridge" products that were replaced with Galaxy when it became apparent that A) MIDI was really taking off and B) Lots of people were accumulating lots of different synths as a result. The basic code in the Edit Ones and Galaxy Editors is very similar.

One other difference that I can't swear to is that the Edit One's might work without OMS. I definitely had a "MIDIMac DX Editor-Librarian" that ran on a 512k !

NOW…

would be interesting to use galaxy or this to use wavestation/m1 editor and see if it works with the virtual korg vst version connected via midi to a VST host running on osx

Do you just enjoy self-abuse?
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: supernova777 on June 18, 2015, 06:36:16 PM
gary.. one of the claims of the korg legacy/digital colllections was that it supported the very same midi spec + even sysex codes
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: GaryN on June 19, 2015, 04:20:05 PM
Let's see… an obsolete software editor running on a deprecated platform connected to an emulation of a vintage synthesizer using two computers running different operating systems…three days later you've got a perfect imitation of the old cowbell in the back of your closet. Much better than the original because you can quantize it.

Relax, I'm kidding. It sounds like a fascinating experiment if you've got all of the pieces and the time.
You'd have to add in a MIDI data stream monitor between the computers though. If it didn't work that's the only way you'd be able to determine which end was causing the problem. You are fluent in MIDI and MIDI Sysex, aren't you?
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: supernova777 on June 19, 2015, 10:04:52 PM
honestly im pretty sure it will work just fine.. based on what ive read.
thats why i added the comment here ;)

question is.. is it easier to edit parameters on the vst screen - usually it all depends on what makes sense to YOU. use whatever works.. alot of the times theres features of a ui that people just dont know how to use properly....

Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: acelera on June 20, 2015, 05:33:36 AM
AFAIK, yes, the Legacy M1, etc will load SYSEX files from the real hardware. This is true and have tested it I have the Legacy collection inc the M1 as well as a real M1Rex.

I have never tried to use the Legacy over MIDI nor send SYSEX to it, though, as if it were a real box... just done the odd file upload from the menu instead.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on June 29, 2015, 05:42:07 PM
I have the latest versions of both Galaxy+ and Vision running on System 7. Plus Logic 3 Platinum, Sound Diver 2 and an older Pro Tools 4.3 install (I boot into OS8.6 for PT5.1 mainly though).

I'm telling you guys... I've had less crashing and faster speeds on a 300mhz System 7 machine than I ever did a G4. I don't use VSTis though, I'm 100% hardware with only the occasional noise gate TDM plug or something.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: DieHard on June 29, 2015, 06:34:48 PM
Wow Syntho, that's awesome, now that you have been running this system for a while, and it is a proven success, maybe you can make a brand new post and describe the system, all the changes you made (like video drivers); and give us documented details on the whole setup

Thanks :)

Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on June 30, 2015, 09:22:20 AM
I've been meaning to do that for a long time now. The problem is that I spent months tweaking and tweaking that damn thing and I've forgotten most of what went into it. I have the drives cloned with fresh installs so I only have to restore them to get back up and running.

I'll see what I can do though. It'll be a rather long post.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on July 01, 2015, 09:31:49 AM
It looks like I've got a small book coming...
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on July 01, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
Cant wait...  :o
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: mrhappy on July 01, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
It looks like I've got a small book coming...

"MIDI and Peace" ?? ;D
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on July 01, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
I've got 16,000 characters written so far. I imagine it getting up to about 25,000 when I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on July 01, 2015, 06:59:32 PM
I need an FTP account to the site or something. I need to upload some images onto there for the guide.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on July 01, 2015, 07:55:39 PM
Ok it's done. Over 27,000 characters and 5,000 words. I'll have a revision or two so it may increase a bit. Waiting on DieHard to get back to me  -afro-
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on July 01, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
I need an FTP account to the site or something. I need to upload some images onto there for the guide.

You can always add photos as a attachment.

No need to have the ftp to post anything with pictures.

Check out the rules GUIDELINES  for inserting Large Images to Posts on our Forum with BBcode http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=835.0 (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=835.0)

It looks like I've got a small book coming...

"MIDI and Peace" ?? ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ok it's done. Over 27,000 characters and 5,000 words.

Feel free to format it in 3-5 posts if it is needed. I will edit those posts at your will until you find them "perfect"

How many pictures will it include?. Just make a post for every picture if you think a "chapter" division can help other users to build a clone of your multiple DAW setup.
I have the latest versions of both Galaxy+ and Vision running on System 7. Plus Logic 3 Platinum, Sound Diver 2 and an older Pro Tools 4.3 install (I boot into OS8.6 for PT5.1 mainly though).

I'm telling you guys... I've had less crashing and faster speeds on a 300mhz System 7 machine than I ever did a G4. I don't use VSTis though, I'm 100% hardware with only the occasional noise gate TDM plug or something.

How far did you take Galaxy+Vision+Logic3+Protools 4.3 in audio track count? Or your setup is a MIDI station for outboard gear?

I have been tracking last Christmas with a Digi001 32 tracks in LE in a 9.2.2 G4 PM GHz dual 7 songs with not a single crash using 5.2 with D-Verbs, RealVerb, some EQ-II and 4 compressors in 128 "realtime".
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: Syntho on July 01, 2015, 11:35:08 PM
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2656.0

I'll take care of further editing/formatting. I've got to get some rest. I'll edit it up tomorrow to make it a bit better.
Title: Re: Opcode Edit One Editor Librarian for Mac OS 7, 8, 9
Post by: supernova777 on July 08, 2015, 11:56:59 AM
thanks again for that amazing contribution syntho  8) .... well done  -afro-