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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Hardware => Topic started by: mrhappy on February 24, 2015, 06:37:52 PM

Title: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: mrhappy on February 24, 2015, 06:37:52 PM
So can you format those USB 'thumb' drives/ 'flash' drives (or whatever you want to call them) to work in OS9?
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 24, 2015, 11:08:24 PM
I use them in FAT and exchange files with Win machines. But only in very small docs worth to use it. OS9 (probably OS8 too) can handle the files in FAT, but it worth booting OSX (at least 10.3.x) to transfer bigger files and get faster transfers via USB 2.0.

It seems that you are in Protools as deep as me. I would use it only for transferring the .PT5 or .PTS of a project. Not the audiofiles.

I have never formatted a flash drive to HFS/HFS+ . It should work better in that way, but you will have to install MacDrive on Win to use it (?).

A firewire transfer or network transfer is quicker than USB 1.1. If using a USB thumbdrive is going to define a workflow, I would think it more than twice.

MacTron has showed us a Firewire to SD unit. It was way faster than USB 1.1

DieHard has showed us some USB2, Firewire 800 RAID options. Also some server options x86 based.

ChrisNova777 is an FreeNAS Evangelist. He also showed us some external solutions using eSATA.

Knezzen uses XServe solutions.

I have a USB 2.0 (NEC chipset) PCI card and boot Panther-Tiger-Leopard to transfer projects. Seems the cheaper way to use USB 'thumb' drives/ 'flash' drives for OS9.

Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on February 25, 2015, 03:11:17 AM
best solution is to use a AFP network file server... that way u can copy files with ease from anywhere on your network by
using the network file server as a go between..

process is so fast + easy..
1. mount file server on file source computer + drag files over
2. mount file server on mac computer + drag files over

transfers are practically instant if the files are under 500mb
and does like 4gb full dvds in just about 60 seconds maybe less

no usb drive required..
i had made some posts looking for a firewire thumbdrive
but they are like unicorns .. good luck finding one

the reason i prefer the AFP is also becasue u dont have to use some clunky FTP program
to transfer files.. once u mount the fileserver on the mac it appears in finder exactly the same as your
os9 macs hard drive..

i would like to get a firewire compact flash or SD mount box made someday!!
this is particularly cool u can find more info about how to make this yourself frm parts on ebay
micro SD + compact flash.. theres so many..
hotpluggable esata..
but for mac os 9
it has to be:

FIREWIRE or IDE or ESATA or AFP(network) or FTP(network)
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 08, 2015, 08:54:53 AM
i read that there were some firewire thumb drives made but they are like unicorns & bigfoot.. good luck finding one
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: MacTron on April 08, 2015, 09:01:08 AM
i read that there were some firewire thumb drives made but they are like unicorns & bigfoot.. good luck finding one

Yes, they are extremely rare ...
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 08, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
dont forget the lexar compact flash firewire device that diehard shared with us

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lexar-Professional-FireWire-400-CompactFlash-CF-Card-Reader-IEEE1394a-PC-MAC-/201079241612?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed141bb8c
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: DieHard on April 08, 2015, 11:28:12 AM
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dont forget the lexar compact flash firewire device that diehard shared with us

That is my favorite quick transfer device :)
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 08, 2015, 12:22:22 PM
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dont forget the lexar compact flash firewire device that diehard shared with us

That is my favorite quick transfer device :)

not only that but if used with another compact flash IDE adapter..  could be very convenient indeed (as a personal standard alternative to jump drives)
http://www.primecables.com/p-317797-cab-2785-ide-to-compact-flash-cf-adapter-wpci-bracket-a2?gclid=CjwKEAjwo5OpBRDU64qO07OXq00SJADn5hYn00wuAWsKHEnRHUxgRelMLrWXiziWNQtmwvAeWMZozxoCebnw_wcB

especially this kind with the pci bracket socket for inserting + ejecting the compact flash
but obviously u would need a reboot as IDE is not hotswappable

im looking for one of these that has the 4 pin molex standard power connection rather then this floppy 1.44mb power connection
i may have to get some of these 4pin molex to floppy power adapters  i think some of them will come with this bundled if u buy on ebay
but u have to make sure in the description that it comes with it
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 08, 2015, 12:25:15 PM
diehard:
i assume that this lexar jumpdrive would work on a pc with a firewire connection aswell?

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=591.0;attach=2178;image)

i think therse a bunch of different versions of this lexar thing.. this one specifies UDMA compatibility + Fw800
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: mrhappy on April 08, 2015, 06:32:57 PM
Those Lexar rigs are lookin pretty 'groovy'! ;D
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 08, 2015, 08:24:08 PM
Those Lexar rigs are lookin pretty 'groovy'! ;D

not only that but u can get them in the same common sizes u would get a thumbdrive in at any store nowadays.. maybe even higher then 32gb
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 16, 2015, 05:29:06 AM
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=lexar%20udma%20compact%20flash&clk_rvr_id=815515603056&mfe=search

some example prices

4GB 233x 19.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-Professional-UDMA-4GB-4G-233X-Compact-Flash-CF-Memory-Card-For-Camera-DSLR-/201248123547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2edb52aa9b

8GB 400x 23.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-Pro-UDMA-8GB-8G-400X-Compact-Flash-CF-Memory-Card-For-Camera-DSLR-O-/201126298320?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed40fc2d0

8GB 800x $26.99 US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-Professional-UDMA-7-8GB-8G-800X-Compact-Flash-CF-Memory-Card-Camera-DSLR-O-/191243338445?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c86fdc2cd

32gb 1066x 46.00 US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-Professional-32GB-1066X-Compact-Flash-CF-160MB-s-HD-3D-4K-video-UDMA-7-/121609507833?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c507dd3f9

128gb 1066x 162$ US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEXAR-PROFESSIONAL-128GB-1066X-CF-COMPACT-FLASH-160MB-s-UDMA7-MEMORY-CARD-CAMERA-/321711374400?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae77e0040

256GB 1066x 317$ US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEXAR-PROFESSIONAL-256GB-1066X-CF-COMPACT-FLASH-160MB-s-UDMA7-MEMORY-CARD-CAMERA-/321724049835?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae83f69ab

wow i didnt even know they made 256gb compact flash. thats fairly large
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 16, 2015, 05:45:50 AM
some sd prices: (considerably lower)

8gb 133x 9.99$ us
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-Professional-8GB-8G-133X-SDHC-SD-UHS-I-Flash-Memory-Card-Camera-DSLR-/191307334990?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c8ace454e

16gb 600x $17 US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-16-GB-SDHC-Professional-Class-10-600x-UHS-I-SD-Memory-Card-/221295997421?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338644f1ed

32gb 600x $23 US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-32-GB-SDHC-Professional-Class-10-600x-UHS-I-SD-Memory-Card-/201124155674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed3ef111a

64gb 600x $40 US
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexar-Professional-64GB-Sd-SDHC-SDXC-Memory-Card-Class-10-UHS-1-600x-90MBs-/261620953977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ce9d2f379

so the real qustion is..
does lexar make a SD to firewire drive???????
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 16, 2015, 05:50:27 AM
OMG CHECK THIS OUT

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDDR-80-784-Firewire-CF-Reader/dp/B000077CEB/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1429188590&sr=1-3

wait thats not a sd card.. ;(


http://www.rakuten.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10341066&sp=1&loc=101&scid=af_linkshare&&

http://www.addonics.com/support/user_guides/digidrive/AESDMD2FW.pdf

Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: supernova777 on April 16, 2015, 06:02:01 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWaF1vePqUE[/youtube]

ive posted this video before but consider this
this little sd card has wifi built into it.. which means u could wirelessly access its content??
while its still plugged into this compact flash adapter..
pretend for a second it was living inside a lexar compact flash firewire reader..
plugged into your mac...  i think u culd access the contents of the drive from an iphone?
kinda crazy !!!

so.. compact flash vs sd  media..
sd is cheapest..
with a sd to compact flash adapter u have the best of both worlds..
u can use the older compact flash firewire + the newer cheaper media
win win ;D

but would have to make sure that the lexar drive supports type 2 CF
which the sd-cf adapter's form factor is

one of these adapters is 10$ on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extreme-SD-SDHC-SDXC-to-CF-Type-II-CompactFlash-II-Adapter-8-16-32-64-GB-/171044499768?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d30bf138

http://www.lexar.com/content/lexar-professional-firewire-reader
Quote
Q: What type of Compact Flash cards can I use with the Lexar FireWire?

A: You may use Type I and Type II CompactFlash cards

rock n roll!

im not sure if my cheapo chinese cf to ide adapters would support type II cf size or not
i guess i will find out whent hey finally get here at the end of april
Title: Re: 'Thumb' Drives in OS9?
Post by: xwolfe on June 26, 2015, 03:23:52 AM
 8)  Didn't realize so many fire-wire devices were readily available and cheap!  TU . . .    -afro-