Mac OS 9 Lives
Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) => Topic started by: MacTron on January 17, 2015, 12:12:36 PM
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I know there still some Shareware and Freeware VSTs unposted on the downloads sections, like VSamp, Crystal, Vivaldi, CesSynth, FmHeaven... and so on ... but most of them are still easily avaliable on the net, so there is no hurry.
But, what are the imposible or hard to find missing ones?
I'll begin the list:
Sampletank v2: We have the version 1 but not the version 2, which includes some enhancements.
LM4 MKII: we have the LM4 but not this MKII version that include a some enhancements like easy edit of velocity layers.
MatrixSynth, this is free. I've unsuccessfully tried to contact the author (Paul Le Secq).
Cameleon 5000: we only have a very buggy and incomplete version.
T-Racks in VST format
MachFive, Antares Filter and others are the "iLooked" ones so we have to forget them ...
Sonnox Oxford EQ seems to be for Authorized UAD cards only ...
The list can be continued ...
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I know there still some Shareware and Freeware VSTs unposted on the downloads sections, like VSamp, Crystal, Vivaldi, CesSynth, FmHeaven... and so on ... but most of them are still easily avaliable on the net, so there is no hurry.
im sorry but i dont agree with this at all.
not everyone is great at hunting + finding things down.. this site is now the definitive resource for this material, and i think these things should be posted here
the same as the others, for ease of access, and also visually to see that it is an option ("out of sight out of mind"), some people may not even be aware that they exist unless we post them here.
whats more, there may be people that have many different systems and are accustomed to using *this site* we shouldnt have to search the internet
to find a copy of crystal with google.. everytime we want to find this..
are we not here to gather all the software that is valuable to be used by the powerpc mac os users? rather then worrying about which has a higher dollar value originally attributed to it????
also the title of this thread, when read in english, seems to say that the master list of vst instruments (the list itself) is not available..??
in english, to have people understand that your thread is about vst's that we are still looking for, a better title might be
"vst plugins we're having trouble locating" or "looking for these vsts" or "master list of missing plugin versions" or something? i dunno ;) lol
dont feel bad, because i couldnt even begin to write a topic in another language ;) english is all i know.. well maybe a bit of french but it would take me 10min to figure out how to write:)
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im sorry but i dont agree with this at all.
not everyone is great at hunting + finding things down.. this site is now the definitive resource for this material, and i think these things should be posted here
the same as the others, for ease of access, and also visually to see that it is an option ("out of sight out of mind"), some people may not even be aware that they exist unless we post them here.
whats more, there may be people that have many different systems and are accustomed to using *this site* we shouldnt have to search the internet
to find a copy of crystal with google.. everytime we want to find this..
are we not here to gather all the software that is valuable to be used by the powerpc mac os users? rather then worrying about which has a higher dollar value originally attributed to it????
This thread is for make a list of VSTs that we don't have. Other considerations are out of the focus here.
I have no problems into accept criticism, different options or any discussion related to the forum. But It I'm bored that some people use to unfocus some threads with the same things ... If you wish to discuss other questions, like what or what not should be here, you should open another thread or better yet use some of the already open ones about this.
also the title of this thread, when read in english, seems to say that the master list of vst instruments (the list itself) is not available..??
in english, to have people understand that your thread is about vst's that we are still looking for, a better title might be
"vst plugins we're having trouble locating" or "looking for these vsts" or "master list of missing plugin versions" or something? i dunno ;) lol
dont feel bad, because i couldnt even begin to write a topic in another language ;) english is all i know.. well maybe a bit of french but it would take me 10min to figure out how to write:)
OK, thanks for your help with my bad English. I hope it will be better now.
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i thought Diehard has this version? pretty sure he has spoken about it many times but that the copy protection prevented was beefed up on this version??
i remember him telling me that you and he tried to get it to work but could not...
LM4 MKII: we have the LM4 but not this MKII version that include a some enhancements like easy edit of velocity layers.
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the whole point of making the master list (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2209.0)
was to have ONE list...
if u notice.. jerry has "STATUS: Acquired" im sure he was planning on adding these vsti that u are talking about here and putting "STATUS: missing"
we should focus our efforts on completing this other thread.
if we each do 1 or 2 additions per day it would be done quickly.
its a great idea by diehard.. i didnt think of even doing this...
i was just talking about text based list
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I can upload LM4 mkII and Steinberg the Grand v1.
Contact me in private if there is some particular rule about posting on the download section.
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Yes I will take the info. and put into other thread.
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the whole point of making the master list (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2209.0)
was to have ONE list...
its a great idea by diehard.. i didnt think of even doing this...
i was just talking about text based list
Of course DieHard idea is very good.
But I'm doing the opposite, because it is easy. And with the hope that someone may have some of those missing files ...
we should focus our efforts on completing this other thread.
if we each do 1 or 2 additions per day it would be done quickly.
We don't have to be focused on the same things, all of us at the same time. And finding the missing files is a very important task also.
If someone offer us a Logic 5 or 6 without needing the dongle protection -by example-, do you really think that I don't give him all the time and resources I can, instead of be worried if we have MDA piano in the downloads section?. Even Though I don't like Logic.
i thought Diehard has this version? pretty sure he has spoken about it many times but that the copy protection prevented was beefed up on this version??
i remember him telling me that you and he tried to get it to work but could not...
if u notice.. jerry has "STATUS: Acquired" im sure he was planning on adding these vsti that u are talking about here and putting "STATUS: missing"
Copying this CD isn't easy. This was an unfinished work. I don't blame DieHard, nor me, we both have a lot of things to do and to worry about and so little time.
... but may be that vespertine can do the job ...
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We don't have to be focused on the same things, all of us at the same time. And finding the missing files is a very important task also.
If someone offer us a Logic 5 or 6 without needing the dongle protection -by example-, do you really think that I don't give him all the time and resources I can, instead of be worried if we have MDA piano in the downloads section?. Even Though I don't like Logic.
in the amount of time that it took u to reply to this post u could have posted 1 or 2 of them.. i agree MDA piano isnt worth much time, but there are some free things that are of value, Crystal is one of them, Ambience Reverb another, CamelPhatFree another.
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has anyone spoken with Vespertine...?
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has anyone spoken with Vespertine...?
Yes, I'm in touch with him. I asked him for a image file of LM4 MK2. A partial image -if we can't have the full one, (due to copy protection) - can do the trick, I think.
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I've been busy at work recently, but I'm confident that in a couple of days I can create a toast image of the first LM4mkII CD and upload to FTP.
I hope you can overcome any copy protection mechanism.
Send me in private your "wish list", perhaps I have some other plugin you miss.
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...so, LM4 MK2 shouldn't go in to the missing list from now on ... :)
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scratched off the list! ;D 8) 8)
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All Hail the MacTron ;)
*** Updated: And special thanks to Vespertine.
Now home work for all members...
Hunt down the Cameleon 5000 for MacTron and all
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All Hail the MacTron ;)
Thanks , but all the thanks should go to vespertine.
Now home work for all members...
Hunt down the Cameleon 5000 for MacTron and all
Cameleon 5000 is the only additive resynthesis virtual synth we have in Mac Os 9. The good news is that we already have Cameleon 5000 since a few months . But it is a very problematic copy: It ask for registration each time the plugin is launched and don't accept the default patches, nor others, and it is unstable etc...
so what we really need it is a better copy or a better version ...
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New additions to the list:
T-Racks in VST format
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someones gotta have VST t-racks!!!! :o
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im really surprised T-racks is missing also!! i still know some producers who use this VST version on osx using old cubase SX version!
is it possible that it was only a standalone version in macos9? and that the vst version was OSX only?
lets take a look;
t-racks.. its made by ik multimedia?? right?
http://web.archive.org/web/19980610125611/http://www.ikmultimedia.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20001206085500/http://www.ikmultimedia.com/
ok i see theres a dedicated site for it:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001205055200/http://www.t-racks.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20010216223727/http://www.t-racks.com/TRReleases.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20030112090632/http://www.t-racks.com/Main.html?TRRelease07
ok heres the announcement about DirectX + VST versions-
i think the date is January 20th 2003? (if im reading the date right)
heres the press release http://web.archive.org/web/20030405102257/http://www.t-racks.com/Main.html?TRRelease18
it also mentions a version for PT 6 on mac osx (http://web.archive.org/web/20030202094716/http://www.t-racks.com/Main.html?TRRelease17)
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I know there still some Shareware and Freeware VSTs unposted on the downloads sections, like VSamp, Crystal, Vivaldi, CesSynth, FmHeaven... and so on ... but most of them are still easily avaliable on the net, so there is no hurry.
not really
alot of the old download locatins are dissappearing fast
it would be nice to have all of these things posted here for ease of access
+ not having to go searching "in the wild"
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Two new strikethrough : SampleTank 2 and T-Racks VST!
;D ;D ;D ;D
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now we just need to crack the uAD plugins for mac os 9 :D
did anyone ever get the Waves C1 Sidechain to work? i forget
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i just discovered that Sonic Timeworks L.L.P. also released for Mac OS 9. I thought they were windows only until now.
https://web.archive.org/web/20071123175429/http://www.sonictimeworks.com/products.php
(https://web.archive.org/web/20071123175429/http://www.sonictimeworks.com/products.php)
"Requirements
Protools compatable RTAS sytem. Pro Tools 5.1 or higher / Pro Tools LE / Pro Tools Free
Compatible with Pro Tools HD...
MAC- MacOS 9 or higher. G3 or higher."
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sonictimeworks.com/* (https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sonictimeworks.com/*)
enter "hqx" to filter out the AU/VST/RTAS demos for mac OS 9
demo's work for 30 seconds, then shut off for 5 seconds.
maybe someone in the future can bring us those curiosities back to the future
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AU/VST
pulsar, not VST.
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big mistake thanks for correcting this
also where is the master
*LIST?*
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it is still interesting information. we had the RTAS demo, but not the pulsar one. to be exact, there are probably some more pulsar plug-ins i have never heard of.
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At one point in time, back in 2013 we had a pretty extensive Folder architecture on the "ADrive" platform that included in it's tree...
1) Plugin Type
2) Software Publisher/Creator
3) Plugin Name and version
We had this tree for all working plugins that were derived from Mactron and I going over 300+ Factory Plugin CDs, Wayback links, and core member uploads; we also had many folders that were "in progress" that consisted of missing and non-working plugins that were in the process of being reverse engineered by mactron and being tracked down by myself.
After moving away from "Adrive" the plugins (in progress) stuff was not moved and the folders never replicated so we did not get to create a definitive text document or speadsheet :(
But overall, we did our best to make as many images that we could and offered them here and at the garden.
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What a loss
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interesting, i never saw that thing and as it seems nobody has a backup, just as nobody has a backup from the content we hosted at m-archive.
however, now we have 1000+ - and the version numbers are now part of the filenames for a #reason.
at the weekend we begin to build a multi-installer system for the whole collection (starting with VST, but eventually to be followed by other things)
of course, just as back in 2013, nobody will care about it and nobody will download and use it anyway, but that´s no reason to not carry it out. :)
the list of "missing" things has already shrinked from ~12 to about ~10 (?) and there is a small chance that this number keeps shrinking during the next 10 years.
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interesting, i never saw that thing and as it seems nobody has a backup, just as nobody has a backup from the content we hosted at m-archive.
however, now we have 1000+ - and the version numbers are now part of the filenames for a #reason.
Yes, we had many folders that were not live because they were not complete and tested.
Also, there were many items, from you and others, that were labeled, "Do not offer publicly" and we never violated that trust with you or any other member.
Lastly, I still have many CD binders (all factory items) and some were never able to be converted into a usable plugins... such as the "Rob Pipin" stuff and tons of TC (for powercore)
So I can always send them to a motivated member in 2024/2025
Last note: AFAIK The "member uploads" from you and about 8 others were NOT backed up before Adrive was erased (or nuked as you remember), and the "in progress" stuff was also not put in the backup plan at the time
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beside the usual issues of cooperating online and people not making backups, it is generally a difficult task to put all files and infos in a single place or into a big monolitic file with a custom frontend.
what i am currently planning for example will on the one hand combine files / installers (only when required) / authorisations (only when required) / and some statistical information about the content - but there is one big problem remaining: alltogether there are still so many bigger files required to make such a bundle complete, that in the end the bundle will be too big.
for quark xpress plug-ins this system is very easy. all of them either just work or ask for a serial, and they sum up to some 100 mb.
but for virtual instruments we´re talking about 5 different authorisation schemes, huge factory content, and endusers which more often only need a single file than the complete bundle so that the size will easily exceed a BD-DL image (not to speak of the 1gb size limit of some hosters or the 2gb limit of most hotline apps)
then there are a few other necessities such as synchronizing the fileserver, my (or other endusers) personal needs - and the fact that the frontend and the file collection is of course something dynamic, where bugfixes, updates and changes will occur from time to time.
in stage 2 i keep in mind the instant DAW project and third party content and see how that can possibly be integrated, too
btw do you know how the prosonic installers look like? where you can either only intall, only authorize, or do both - and all with a single click, just in case anyone needs one of these options. that is how things should look like in a perfect mac world. ;)
even cooler than only making a custom frontend for the installers would be if the user could directly choose to download the files from the online repository like the apple updater controlpanel one did it.
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in this context i am still looking to learn how to modify existing vise/alladin installers to remove or change paths and such things.