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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Hardware => Topic started by: Irisman on September 15, 2014, 03:59:54 AM

Title: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: Irisman on September 15, 2014, 03:59:54 AM

I am waiting for my PPC 9600 233 mhz to arrive :)   50 euros ;)

It has a fw pci card installed, but no usb. I plan to install a USB pci card, but I am not sure if Macos 9 supports USB 2.0 cards.

Found this on ebay: http://www.ebay.es/itm/5-PORT-USB-2-0-PCI-CARD-FOR-PC-COMPUTER-MAC-NEW-BOXED-/150420987737?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_InterfaceCards&hash=item2305ca1f59&_uhb=1

It says supports USB 1.1 for  8.6 and above, and usb 2.0 for osx and above.

Any clear info about this?  Can I get USB 2.0 in macos 9?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: supernova777 on September 15, 2014, 04:21:26 AM

It says supports USB 1.1 for  8.6 and above, and usb 2.0 for osx and above.

Any clear info about this?  Can I get USB 2.0 in macos 9?

mac os 9 doesnt support usb 2.0 at the operating system level.
the card will function at usb 1.1 spec while booted into mac os 9..
and provide usb 2.0 spec speeds while booted into osx..

they never added usb 2.0 support in mac os 9
because the machines that mac os 9 was powwering did not feature usb 2.0 ports
and development on the os itself ceased...

it would have been an amazing addition to os 9.22 or a great 9.23 update
but it never happened;(

pretty much any usb 2.0 card will work as long as its a nec chipset on the pci card
the pic of the card looks like a VIA chipset.. while it may work (as they are claiming)
an nec chipset is moreso reccommended for compatibility

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/allegro_usb2.html
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: Irisman on September 15, 2014, 05:28:20 AM

Thankyou very much; as I spend hours and hours at the studio maybe I can stand usb 1.1 speed; no sense in too much hurry really.
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: supernova777 on September 15, 2014, 06:01:33 AM

Thankyou very much; as I spend hours and hours at the studio maybe I can stand usb 1.1 speed; no sense in too much hurry really.

well usb  is mostly for serial/midi/peripherals for mac os 9. rather then data thru put
mac os 9 uses firewire instead of usb for that purpose...
and that works excellent!! so nothing we arent missing much  ;)
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: MacTron on September 15, 2014, 09:30:40 AM
It says supports USB 1.1 for  8.6 and above,

Just for the record:
USB 1.1 can be used from Mac Os 8.1 with a special hack :)
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: Jakl on September 15, 2014, 05:01:42 PM
Whats the hack Mactron? ???
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: supernova777 on September 15, 2014, 06:04:55 PM
probably overwriting of some files..adding extension from later version ?
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: MacTron on September 16, 2014, 08:38:20 AM
probably overwriting of some files..adding extension from later version ?
Not at all. Just adding a resource called usbx, and then create an entry with the ID number 1984 to  the file "USB Support" from  USB Driver Development Kit v1.2 .
I've attached the drivers already modified .
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: Syntho on September 16, 2014, 09:35:13 AM
I've wanted to get USB working in OS7.6.1. Will that work in 7.6.1?
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: Irisman on September 16, 2014, 09:35:46 AM
probably overwriting of some files..adding extension from later version ?
Not at all. Just adding a resource called usbx, and then create an entry with the ID number 1984 to  the file "USB Support" from  USB Driver Development Kit v1.2 .
I've attached the drivers already modified .

Is that what some people calls "geek"?  ;D
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: supernova777 on September 16, 2014, 09:55:36 AM
I've wanted to get USB working in OS7.6.1. Will that work in 7.6.1?

LOL os 7.6.1 is from 04/07/97
just think about that ;) almost 2 years prior to usb showing up
id be very surprised + shocked if u could get it to work

just think about the machines that os 7 was designed to run on..


Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: MacTron on September 16, 2014, 10:23:05 AM
I've used this trick long time ago...
I think it only work on Mac Os 8.1, nor 7.6 nor even 8.0...
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: Syntho on September 16, 2014, 10:28:03 AM
Others have gotten USB working on 7.6.1. There was one guy who got it working, then his HD crashed and he didn't have the files anymore  :'(
Title: Re: USB 2.0 in macos9
Post by: IIO on September 18, 2014, 09:03:09 AM

what works in OS7 or not seems irrelevant for OS9. lets head towards extending our hard- and software, rather than downgrading. :)