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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Hardware => Video Cards, Monitors & Displays => Topic started by: Protools5LEGuy on September 15, 2014, 02:03:02 AM

Title: G5 AGPx8 Radeon 9650 256 Mb works on G4s?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on September 15, 2014, 02:03:02 AM
Do this (http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/lovemacs_2322_1239408260) work in G4s?

It is AGPx8 but the firmware is for PowerMacs...G5 cards vs G4 cards...

I guess that the http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11) mod is needed to force AGP go x4.
Title: Re: G5 AGPx8 Radeon 9650 256 Mb works on G4s?
Post by: supernova777 on September 15, 2014, 02:12:45 AM
DO NOT TRY TO USE THIS CARD
using a card like this is how i fried my quicksilver 867 remember?

it turns out that it damaged the cpu unit somehow.
the motherboard is fine
even tho diehard sent me a replacement motherboard
i replaced the motherboard and it was the same thing..
because it was the cpu that was damaged somehow
not the mb.

and it was hell to debug..
just dont even try it..
TRUST ME..

Title: Re: G5 AGPx8 Radeon 9650 256 Mb works on G4s?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on September 15, 2014, 02:40:24 AM
I tried others G5 AGP cards before and they take me to the apple screen but do not go inside any OS. If it do not work or give black screen I exchange the graphics card and with a reset of PRAM it gives me my G4 back.

Do that graphic card that toasted your QS were ADC or dual DVI as the one I showed?

I would accept recommendations for a graphics card that suits OS9 and Panther-Leo. I need them to be DVI.

Any info about a ADC to HDMI converter?
Title: Re: G5 AGPx8 Radeon 9650 256 Mb works on G4s?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on September 15, 2014, 02:51:56 AM

Any info about a ADC to HDMI converter?
From Applefritter http://www.applefritter.com/node/22078 (http://www.applefritter.com/node/22078)
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. After researching the pinouts of ADC, DVI, and HDMI connectors, I found there were two pins available in the DVI and HDMI connectors, which were not available in the ADC connector. They are on pins 14 and 16 in the DVI connector and pins 18 and 19 on the HDMI connector. They are +5v and "Hot Plug Detect". Since these are not available on the ADC connector what I did to fix it was strip back the DVI to HDMI cable on the DVI end, and then take apart the DVI end of the ADC to DVI adaptor. I then ran a jumper wires from pins 14 and 16 of the DVI adaptor to pins 14 and 16 of the DVI end of the DVI to HDMI cable. I plugged the cables in and booted up and both monitors were detected and auto set to the proper resolution. I have a great picture on both now. Anyway, I just thought I would pass the info on.
 

I have to make a ADC to HDMI cable instead to keep using the Rage 128...

More ADC-DVI-HDMI info

http://blog.shewu.me/2010/11/hacking-apple-studio-display.html (http://blog.shewu.me/2010/11/hacking-apple-studio-display.html)
http://www.instructables.com/id/DVI-to-ADC-converter/?lang=es (http://www.instructables.com/id/DVI-to-ADC-converter/?lang=es)
https://developer.apple.com/legacy/library/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5/3Input-Output/Q87_innout.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40002012-CH207-DontLinkElementID_21 (https://developer.apple.com/legacy/library/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintosh_CPUs-G5/PowerMacG5/3Input-Output/Q87_innout.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40002012-CH207-DontLinkElementID_21)
http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/565790519_sd.pdf (http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/565790519_sd.pdf)
http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/743209010_sd.pdf (http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/743209010_sd.pdf)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Display_Connector (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Display_Connector)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI)

http://lookanotherblog.com/?p=156 (http://lookanotherblog.com/?p=156)
http://www.jasondoesitall.com/adc/ (http://www.jasondoesitall.com/adc/)
http://www.applefritter.com/node/4008 (http://www.applefritter.com/node/4008)
http://damntechnology.blogspot.com.es/2009/02/hacking-dvi-cable-to-build-adc-to-dvi.html (http://damntechnology.blogspot.com.es/2009/02/hacking-dvi-cable-to-build-adc-to-dvi.html)
The reverse http://efeion.blogspot.com.es/2011/08/while-back-i-was-able-to-grab-17-inch.html (http://efeion.blogspot.com.es/2011/08/while-back-i-was-able-to-grab-17-inch.html)


Title: Re: G5 AGPx8 Radeon 9650 256 Mb works on G4s?
Post by: supernova777 on September 15, 2014, 03:21:44 AM
Do that graphic card that toasted your QS were ADC or dual DVI as the one I showed

yes it was a radeon 9600 agp 8x card
i did this pin modification .. maybe i did it incorrectly i dont know for sure but i threw the card out to be sure it would not damage another machine

thanks for reminding me that i need to replace that cpu!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-POWERMAC-G4-867MHz-PROCESSOR-MODULE-QUICKSILVER-661-2506-820-1323-A-/281285421249?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417deae8c1

14$ aint so bad:)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Apple-Power-Mac-G4-867MHz-820-1314-A-CPU-Processor-Board-KC1434VVLRSA-/321517467874?pt=CPUs&hash=item4adbef38e2

7.50$ is even better;)
Title: Re: G5 AGPx8 Radeon 9650 256 Mb works on G4s?
Post by: MacTron on September 15, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
...and don't forget that this card is useless in Mac Os 9.