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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Logic Audio by Emagic => Topic started by: Syntho on September 07, 2014, 07:45:25 PM

Title: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 07, 2014, 07:45:25 PM
Figured it out  -afro-
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 09, 2014, 06:27:43 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/345x393q50/537/emwOJP.jpg)

There's some font nastiness in Logic 3. It doesn't look bad in this screenshot but in person is looks almost unreadable. Does anyone else notice this in Logic 3?
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: supernova777 on September 09, 2014, 07:08:59 PM
tbh it looks like your font is corrupted
maybe a bad install of os 8.x?
maybe an old issue of os 8.x?
try getting suitcase or adobe type manager?

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/suitcase-1011-fontbook-352
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/suitcase-81
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/adobe-type-manager-deluxe-40

theres a blast from my past ..
i was a font-o-holic in the 90s (96-97-98-99)
bigtime during that period
its why i got into macs
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 09, 2014, 07:18:40 PM
This happens on my G4 and 9600, both in OS8 and OS9, with Logic 3. The problem clears up in Logic 4. Can you launch Logic 3 real quick and see if it's there for you too?
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: supernova777 on September 09, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
This happens on my G4 and 9600, both in OS8 and OS9, with Logic 3. The problem clears up in Logic 4. Can you launch Logic 3 real quick and see if it's there for you too?

my mdd is down for the count atm.
i have been meanign to reinstall for like 2 weeks because of that disk error
im waiting to get the right ssd size that i want..
sucks
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 09, 2014, 08:25:58 PM
I think I figured it out.

I was looking at the included documentation with Logic 3 and there was an oldschool Quicktime video included by the Emagic team. The guy opened the Windows menu and the font looked like it was supposed to. The catch is that he was using System 7, not OS8. If you look closely it looks like a System 7 font.

I guess they never went back and fixed it until version 4.0 since that was probably made with OS8 in mind. The bold font looks much better on a pure white background, typical of System 7. The new greyness with OS8 makes it appear like in the screenshot.
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: supernova777 on September 09, 2014, 08:58:10 PM
that sounds plausible...
logic 3.0 was probably released before mac os 8 ... makes sense

i bet if u just applied an update or two it would fix it
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php?topic=253.0
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 09, 2014, 09:35:47 PM
I'm on the latest 3.7.2 version and it has the same problem. Hmm...
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: supernova777 on September 27, 2014, 01:11:00 PM
try this out..
font manager update for 8.6
this is coming from the "Apple System Software Recovery cd2"
which is an apple care disk for administrators with many updates for macs
from before July 1999. (before the release of the sawtooth g4's)

its applicable to any mac running os 8.6
the documentation says it fixed an error in which a font becomes corrupted
and displays strangely, just as you have described here!
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 27, 2014, 06:36:44 PM
I believe the font is called Chicago Bold

(http://i.fonts2u.com/ch/chicago-bold_4.png)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_%28typeface%29 - this says something about how there was a minor change to the spacing of the font. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 27, 2014, 06:39:34 PM
Do you have any documentation to go with that update?
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 27, 2014, 06:47:47 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/19991110064711/http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11489 - this is weird. I saw some *.iso files in System 7 being identified as a "Corrupt FOND..." filetype in the list view  :o
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: Syntho on September 27, 2014, 07:10:57 PM
The scan turns up nothing. I'm not so worried about the font anyway since I'm using System 7 for Logic 3 anyway. But now I'm concerned about why those ISO files are showing up as a CORRUPT FOND... filetype.
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: supernova777 on September 27, 2014, 07:29:16 PM
the documentation im referring to is packaged with it.. the readme file
Title: Re: NEVER MIND
Post by: supernova777 on September 28, 2014, 07:22:26 AM
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-system-software-recovery-cd-2

i found it on this cd... under "mac os" : "mac os 8.6" it is prominently displayed next to a  NDIF .img named "8.6 multi-install.img"
the folder itself was called "Font Manager Updater"

this cd contains installers for all versions between 8.0 and 9.0
actually no sorry, 8-8.6

under the folder for 9.0 it says
"due to space + technical issues, mac os 9 is not on this apple system software cd. mac os 9 ships on its own cd in the apple software recovery cd package"