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Mac OS 9 Discussion => Software => Topic started by: Philgood on July 26, 2014, 09:53:31 AM

Title: Internet speed !
Post by: Philgood on July 26, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Hi.

Was just wondering what speed you get with classilla under mac os9.

I'm getting 1Mbit/s under my windows machine with windows7 but only 25% of that under Mac OS9.

Is that normal or can i optimize something under mac os9 to speed up this ?
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: supernova777 on July 26, 2014, 10:09:02 AM
my speed of downloads is usually between 250kb/s + 320kb/s
my windows/modern macs are much faster then that..

downloading from my local (gigabit) networked fileserver via AFP is much much much faster
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: Philgood on July 26, 2014, 10:14:59 AM
I see...do you know why it's so low ?

Is it due to classilla ?
the extensions of the system folder (optimized to music production) ?

i don't mind much but gettings the downloads by downloading them through my windows machine and copying it with the usb stick at usb 1.1 speeds to my mac is a pain sometimes so i would prefer to download it directly to the mac.
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: supernova777 on July 26, 2014, 11:20:09 AM
u could try booting up into OSX and checking the speed performance there and comparing + reporting back what you find
for me 300kb/s isnt so bad considering the files u download to the mac are usually smaller anyway

if u want a great solution for backup/file transfer like i have said many times i reccomend setting up a NAS4free server with an old pc
and connecting via AFP on the mac, and connecting via SMB on any windows machines.. its a great solution!
there are other NAS hard drives offered by many diff companies that also provide AFP/SMB sharing, the trick is finding one that
is compatible with mac os 9.. nas4free is, i can guarantee that.. basically all u need to do this is any usb bootable pc,
that has 4-8gb of ram (any pc from 2005-2009 should work great for this purpose) and u install the os onto a usb thumbdrive, which
leaves all the hard drive slots open for being used for storage.. you then can map the drive on both your new + old operating systems
and download wherever u want and it makes your whole computing experience rather seamless + protected (if you use RAID fault tolerance)
http://www.nas4free.org is the site if u want to look into it more

screenshots:
http://www.nas4free.org/index.php?id=4



Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: IIO on July 26, 2014, 01:14:43 PM
what and how did you test that you get those speeds?

in case you are downladoing some file from a random server, then this result is no wonder, because some http servers are configred to have a cap per socket - then a modern browser which uses several connections for one task has a benefit.

the OS itself should not make any difference, it is most likely your client.
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: supernova777 on July 26, 2014, 01:31:29 PM
this makes alot of sense
i remember a plugin called "Speed download" that i used alot on os9!!!
perhaps we can resurrect this plugin for classilla?
its actually a "download manager"

i used it with firefox 2.0 i believe
it should probably work for classilla?

anyone have it? it was made by http://www.yazsoft.com/

it works by multiplying the connections, exactly as 110 has described, and then joining the segments of the files
or something like that but it makes a really big difference, at least it sure as hell did when i used it back in 2006 or so on mac os 9!

hmm maybe im mistaken maybe it was only for X
http://web.archive.org/web/20020425004307/http://www.yazsoft.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20040401150341/http://yazsoft.com/

nope! it was originaly for 8.6+!!! i knew it!
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Speed Download 1.8:

    Mac OS X 10.1 or higher.
    MacOS 8.6 or higher (with Apple CarbonLib 1.5 or higher).
    An internet connection (High Speed connections recommended).

checking http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yazsoft.com/files/*
we find:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yazsoft.com:80/files/sd191.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yazsoft.com:80/files/sd193.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/20070527205417/http://www.yazsoft.com/files/sd196.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/20051227141646/http://www.yazsoft.com/files/sd198.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yazsoft.com/files/sd/sd1/sd199.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yazsoft.com/files/sd/sd1/sd1help.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.yazsoft.com/files/sd/sd2/sd2help.sit

heres an article from 2002:
http://www.macworld.com/article/1004108/download.html
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Speed Download, a US$20 application, sports a download queue that supports schedules. It's Carbonized so, as mentioned, it runs under Mac OS X. However, it also has multi-processor optimizations when running Mac OS 9 or higher. You can download it at the ABT Data Web site.
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: Philgood on July 26, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
Great!!!

Thanks for the input!

I couldn't wait and just recycled an old firewire/usb case for harddrives and put in an old 80Gb laptop harddrive so at least i can now
make quick transfers from pc to mac without hassle.
(Actually i connect via usb to the pc and via firewire to the mac, of course not at the same time.)

But i will look into both options. the server and software option for os9!
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: Philgood on July 26, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
...what and how did you test that you get those speeds?...

sorry, i want to answer...

i just compared downloading the same files from the download section from here under windows and under mac os9.it was much slower under the mac.
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: supernova777 on July 26, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
yea fw400 / usb 2.0 is a great idea for moving between the mac..
its too bad you cant have both connected to the same drive at the same time!
that would rock.
i bet there is a drive out there somewhere that supports this though!

if anyone knows of a drive that supports connection to more then 1 pc/mac over its different i/o port types simultaneously that would be sweet info to have!
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: IIO on July 26, 2014, 05:57:33 PM
speed download existed, but i think you mean iGetter. that was my choice anyway.
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: supernova777 on July 26, 2014, 06:39:10 PM
question is: is there a download manager for increasing download speed via multiple http connections for mac os 9 that will integrate with classilla?
Title: Re: Internet speed !
Post by: IIO on July 26, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
cant try now, but i guess both do. clasilla stll has a plug-in interface, right? (i keep mixing classilla up with tenfourfox)