Mac OS 9 Lives
Mac OS 9 Discussion => Hardware => Storage => Topic started by: MacTron on July 02, 2014, 09:55:52 AM
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WD My Book® Live
Personal Cloud Storage
(http://www.wdc.com/global/images/products/mybooklive/global/mybooklive_v2_02.jpg)
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280 (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280)
High performance (100/1000) Gigabit Ethernet connection,Internal hard drive WD 3.5-inch SATA hard drive
Supported clients : Windows 8, 7,Vista, Windows XP*, Mac OS X Mountain Lion, Lion, Snow Leopard, Leopard*
* For Windows OS, Lion and Mountain Lion, you will need to install the Java runtime client.
Supported protocols CIFS/SMB, NFS, FTP, AFP.
... and in Mac Os 9 just type the device IP address in the AppleShare client (in the chooser) and go!
... but no body is going to telling you... but here! LOL
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you will see excellent speed file transfers over the AFP protocol trust me 8) 8) 8)
better then FTP even
using an AFP NAS is the best + most convenient way ;D
this thing also would take alot less power then to have a complete machine dedicated to this purpose
in the way that i have done with my fileserver
but the difference is
my fileserver is in RAIDZ formation, with fault tolerance for a drive to fail
WD might have a RAID Mirror version of the above tho at additional cost
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here even better they have "MyBook Live DUO" with raid mirroring!
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=620
english manual: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/UM/ENG/4779-705065.pdf
overview: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/AAG/ENG/4178-705284.pdf
my only complaint.. no eSATA;(
why would they put usb 2.0 instead of esata!!!
so much slower compared to esata or gigabit ethernet..
i guess gigabit ethernet is the only way to use this thing,
usb 2.0 is only there for failsafe or convenience
i would buy this....
6TB (3tb in raid 1) would be great value for me
and runs on alot less power then my home built NAS
but.. what is the cost??
i just looked up 4tb is 300$ usd
so the 6tb would be like 350$ im guessing or $400
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I've buy one brand new very cheap. The thing that surprised me more is that it supports AFP, and to connect a Mac Os 9 machine to a 2012-2014 device! fast and easy.
Even support Mac Os 9 resource files. so no file compression are needed, and any Mac Os 9 app can be launched from this device.
But if you upgrade the firmware, this ability is lost :(
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upgrading the firmware drops AFP file support?
that doesnt make sense?
also,
if using AFP
go to apple menu-> RECENT SERVERS
and click,
will popup a menu of icons of recent network connections
and u can copy this shortcut to your desktop or whatever to recconect with one click
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http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/updates/?family=wdfmb_live
its funny -- we spoke recently of this -- but i think this update
+ the afp incompatibility in lion + above
is 2 sides of the same coin
in that whatever breaks compatibility with mac os 9
gives lion compatibility..
perhaps it is just impossible to have both, cant have lion compatible.. while being mac os 9 compatible..?
but yet my fileerver on nas4free is compatible with both.
so there must be a way to have our cake and eat it too..
i
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High performance (100/1000) Gigabit Ethernet connection,Internal hard drive WD 3.5-inch SATA hard drive
Update:
It's unsupportable slow. After the first 250GB of spaced used, it began to have a slow behavior, and at half capacity it was really unusable. It was slowest than a USB 1.1 storage.
Today I Have pulled out the 1TB hard drive from the WD My Book live, and trashed all the remaining of the damn thin
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Were the partitions bigger than 180/200 Gig?
I am thinking that DieHard 180/200 partition limits is a must
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It's unsupportable slow. After the first 250GB of spaced used, it began to have a slow behavior, and at half capacity it was really unusable. It was slowest than a USB 1.1 storage.
Maybe you were using cat5 not cat5e cable and it finished been a 100 net instead of gigabit
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Were the partitions bigger than 180/200 Gig?
I am thinking that DieHard 180/200 partition limits is a must
this partition size guideline by diehard does not apply in anyway to mactrons scenario.... as the drive is not being run under mac os 9..
i do agree with the comment about checking the cable..
i had similar problems with my Freenas box...!! and i had to disable ipv6? that seemed to fix it .. but only temporarily ... then the problem returned.. im fairly certain its a networking problem.. im not sure what the cause is.. protocols? adapters? drivers?? cables??? im not sure what the problem was but it 'went away' for me somehow after i changed something..
but yes... here is the symptoms: file transfers start out really fast + then go really really slowly..like u said.. slower then usb 2.0
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Is it connected thru a router/switcher?
Are the volumes accessible thru finder?
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The WD My Book® Live was worse than you both think. I have used a cat5e cable and connected directly and thru a router/switch. The device really worked well, but the speed decreases at the same time as I added files.
The last thing I had done with it was a file search test. The My Book® Live 1TB against a Firewire 500GB with the same content. The Firewire 500GB successfully ended the search in 15 sec. and the "My Book® Live 1TB" in 9 minutes and it still hadn't ended the search!
As I have told before, I have noticed the progressive slow down of the device, and after a few tests, enough is enough. So I had take the screwdriver ...
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The WD My Book® Live was worse than you both think. I have used a cat5e cable and connected directly and thru a router/switch. The device really worked well, but the speed decreases at the same time as I added files.
The last thing I had done with it was a file search test. The My Book® Live 1TB against a Firewire 500GB with the same content. The Firewire 500GB successfully ended the search in 15 sec. and the "My Book® Live 1TB" in 9 minutes and it still hadn't ended the search!
As I have told before, I have noticed the progressive slow down of the device, and after a few tests, enough is enough. So I had take the screwdriver ...
Firewire drives are always the way in OS9. With USB2 drives I boot OSX to transfer files. I am a noob with net-drives, NAS and all that.
Maybe the drive works "acceptable" when less than 40 percent storage.
Offtopic: How did you formatted that drive?
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Download the Western Digital Data Lifeguard diagnostics (Not sure if there is a Mac Version); It will take a long time via USB, but you can test the HD... sounds like it is in failure stage 1 (the re-read slowdown) before death; Back it up immediately... No USB, I forgot... so since you pulled the drive you can run the diagnostics in windows (if you have a machine to do it)
Many are mad that there are no Mac Diags
http://community.wd.com/t5/Software-Accessory-Ideas/Data-Lifeguard-tools-for-Linux-and-Mac-OS-X-users/idi-p/552050
Here is what the WD Diags look like in Windows, we actually use this test on ALL Brands of SATA drives (and PATA) on 7 different servers that we use to test client hard drives
http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/940/~/how-to-test-a-drive-for-problems-using-data-lifeguard-diagnostics-for-windows
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wow..
you guys need to get a sense of humor. be polite.. all i said was "silly"
wow.. so sensitive.. i thought PTLEguy was joking back..
smh.
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What are you talking about... I don't see any "silly" stuff in this thread at all... anymore :)
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Download the Western Digital Data Lifeguard diagnostics (Not sure if there is a Mac Version); It will take a long time via USB, but you can test the HD... sounds like it is in failure stage 1 (the re-read slowdown) before death; Back it up immediately... No USB, I forgot... so since you pulled the drive you can run the diagnostics in windows (if you have a machine to do it)
Many are mad that there are no Mac Diags
http://community.wd.com/t5/Software-Accessory-Ideas/Data-Lifeguard-tools-for-Linux-and-Mac-OS-X-users/idi-p/552050
Here is what the WD Diags look like in Windows, we actually use this test on ALL Brands of SATA drives (and PATA) on 7 different servers that we use to test client hard drives
http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/940/~/how-to-test-a-drive-for-problems-using-data-lifeguard-diagnostics-for-windows
Thanks for the info. But the hard disk is working flawlessly now in to a Firewire enclosure. The problem was the NAS software and/or hardware ... There are some others complains about it.
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wow... no firmware update fix ?
I know the Buffalo NAS/RAID Units (linkstation) are rock solid
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage
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wow... no firmware update fix ?
Upgrading the firmware make the things worse:
Even support Mac Os 9 resource files. so no file compression are needed, and any Mac Os 9 app can be launched from this device.
But if you upgrade the firmware, this ability is lost :(
Anyway, I prefer firewire...
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Ahhhh FireWire My Favorite also :)