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Title: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: MacTron on October 08, 2015, 09:13:40 AM
Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way:

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2784.0;attach=3001)

1- Install iLok 5.05 (attached)
2- Drag and drop your startup HD to the "Make all visible" app. (attached)
3- Run the scrip "iLok 5.05 Time ResetScript" (attached)
4- Reboot your computer.

Perform steps 2 to 4 each time the demo expires.

This was successfully tested with Waves 4, I guest it should work with other iLok time demos, ( SonyOxford stuff and Antares Filter ... ) as far as they work with iLok engine 5.0.5  ;)

Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: paule on October 10, 2015, 02:17:13 AM
Hi all,
I would have a question about resetting. I have a (lega) ilok working with some important and legal (!!) plugs (all sonnox stuff, ac1 ..). I would love to use some more plugs and would like to reset someday. But I am afraid that I destroy something on this ilok when I will reset in order to use some other plugs (waves 4 ...).
Can I destroy something when I use this reset procedure or do I need a new ilok with only demo plugs on it to be sure that I don't destroy anything?

Best, paule.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: mrhappy on October 10, 2015, 04:40:31 AM
Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way:

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2784.0;attach=3001)

1- Install iLok 5.05 (attached)
2- Drag and drop your startup HD to the "Make all visible" app. (attached)
3- Run the scrip "iLok 5.05 Time ResetScript" (attached)
4- Reboot your computer.

Perform steps 2 to 4 each time the demo expires.

This was successfully tested with Waves 4, I guest it should work with other iLok time demos, ( SonyOxford stuff and Antares Filter ... ) as far as they work with iLok engine 5.0.5  ;)

Thanks MacTron, that's AWESOME!!! Can't wait to try "The Easy Way"!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: MacTron on October 10, 2015, 08:10:47 AM
Can I destroy something when I use this reset procedure or do I need a new ilok with only demo plugs on it to be sure that I don't destroy anything?
Sorry, but I don't know for sure ...

This method only do a few things: Make visible all invisible files on a HD and delete a few ones, (Desktop DB, Desktop DF, and HFSExtentTables folder)
That's not the best way, but the easiest :)

The best way is to selectively delete the contents of "HFSExtentTables", inside "TheVolumeSettingsFolder" (all are invisibles) and rebuid the desktop. May be that's the way for you  if you have some authorized plugins ... but I don't know for sure.  :'(

Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: paule on October 11, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
Hi all,
thanks for the hints and the explantation. But I think I am too afraid to destroy anything on my ilok or the Harddisk and so I stay with the plugs I have. There are only few which I am still looking for. I have also another ilok where are only some expired demoplugs registered, but also making some files visible seems to me that I can destroy something that the normal ilok/harddisk maybe will not work anymore.

Best, paule.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: devils_advisor on October 11, 2015, 01:09:31 PM
Duplicate that drive and test it.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: supernova777 on October 11, 2015, 02:24:16 PM
Hi all,
thanks for the hints and the explantation. But I think I am too afraid to destroy anything on my ilok or the Harddisk and so I stay with the plugs I have. There are only few which I am still looking for. I have also another ilok where are only some expired demoplugs registered, but also making some files visible seems to me that I can destroy something that the normal ilok/harddisk maybe will not work anymore.

Best, paule.

this wont affect your hardware iLok.
i would bet u money it wont. iloks are more secure then that. and require more sophisticated + secure means of altering the contents of the ilok device. the procedure above will only affect the settings on disk.
im not 100% sure but im 99% sure it wont + Would be shocked to find out contrary.

perhaps if we have a member who has some useless license on a extra ilok could verify this...
i would be interested even in buying some extra cheap ilok on ebay to test with before risking expensive or rare licenses.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: IIO on October 13, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
to make sure that your legal versions do not expire or go wrong in some way you can check what has been in the extent tables folder before you install new demos of other products. these folders belong to the products you installed until now.

then - instead of using this apple script - delete only the new stuff inside.

making invisible files visible will not affect the operation with them in any way.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: IIO on October 13, 2015, 03:35:56 PM
mactron: why make all visible and not just these three?
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: MacTron on October 16, 2015, 03:49:36 PM
mactron: why make all visible and not just these three?
Because it is easy.

... and I already  had the "AutoTyper" made . LOL
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: IIO on October 17, 2015, 10:29:46 AM
my question was more "is that required on OS9 applescript?" i knoiw that since 10.3 you can delete and move invisible files with AS, but i could not find how to do it in 9.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: UnSoNiC on December 03, 2015, 02:53:43 PM
Hello,

Thank you MacTron for your script, it's awesome!!!

But ... after running the script, reboot, ... what should I do to make invisible files become invisible again ?

Thank you
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: devils_advisor on December 03, 2015, 03:51:12 PM
Open the script in a editor and reverse what it does.
Title: Problems Resetting Interlok Demo
Post by: SpiritFlight on February 23, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
I have created and apple script app in OS 10.4 that will allow one to toggle between viewing hidden files and not. It allows one to see and easily delete the contents of the "VolumeSettings" Folder and also the Desktop DB and Desktop DF files. If anyone wants the program I can make it available.

My Problem: I'm actually attempting to use the Waves 4 plugins in demo mode with a VST 4.0.3_X  waveshell. I'm currently running OS 10.4 with Classic (9.2.2) installed. I'm pretty sure there is someone here who can help me out, because I believe part of my problem may be on the OS 9 side of the equation.

In order to use Waves in Demo mode one needs to have the Pace Interlok extensions installed. This holds true for both OS 9 and 10. During the transition period, even if an OS X user was using Waves in demo mode only on the OSX side, he would still need to have mac OS 9 installed in order to satisfy the requirements of Pace Interlok. In other words, Waves will not work in demo mode in OS X if OS 9 is not installed.

Well my old G4 Aluminum Powerbook has been on the shelf for a few years. The Waves 4 plugins used to work in demo mode on this computer, but now they don't. Maybe I had Mac OS 10.3 installed?? I used the waves plugins in demo mode both with Deck 3.5 and Peak. Deleting critical files and rebuilding the OS9 Desktop no longer seems to work. The waves plugins no longer appear work in demo mode in OS 10.4. Waves is working in demo mode in OS 9 (Classic). Ideas anyone?

Update 02/24/16, I solved my problem. It had to be an OS X glitch. I went back to my computer's original OS which was 10.3. Now Waves 5 works beautifully in demo mode.

Finally Back in Business,
Thanks!
Title: Re: Problems Resetting Interlok Demo
Post by: IIO on February 25, 2016, 03:29:20 AM
In other words, Waves will not work in demo mode in OS X if OS 9 is not installed.

why do you think so? OSX does not even know which classic folder is currently chosen when classic has not yet been started.
Title: Re: Problems Resetting Interlok Demo
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 25, 2016, 04:51:59 AM
I have created and apple script app in OS 10.4 that will allow one to toggle between viewing hidden files and not. It allows one to see and easily delete the contents of the "VolumeSettings" Folder and also the Desktop DB and Desktop DF files. If anyone wants the program I can make it available.


Wellcome. Sharing the script would be great!


Update 02/24/16, I solved my problem. It had to be an OS X glitch. I went back to my computer's original OS which was 10.3. Now Waves 5 works beautifully in demo mode.

Finally Back in Business,
Thanks!

I am really interested in your Panther method. I plan to merge Full OS9 Cubase Instant Daw with a Panther Protools Install free of plugs with expirability and restore it every 15 days  with the ASR scripts because I never could reset the Oxford stuff with the 2 iLok resetters that I tried in Panther (probably resetters are focused on Tiger/Leopard)
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: SpiritFlight on February 25, 2016, 07:51:48 AM
I will try to reply in order of the questions posted.

1.) It has to do with inerLock not the operating systems. The Pace installer looks for OS9 elements when installing the interlock software, even if the user no longer uses OS 9. This apparently changed however with the introduction of Waves 5 which seems to 100% OS X.

2.) I just tried the Apple Script I created in Mac OS 10.4. It doesn't work in Panther. I'm not a coder so I will see if I can find the instructions to recreate it for Panther.

3.) Any software I have I am willing to share. Too bad, just a couple of years ago, I dumped all my OS 9 installers thinking that they were truly obsolete. I had a lot. I just want to make sure I'm not braking any rules. Is there a set of site guidelines I can read in regard to sharing software?

How would I go about uploading the Waves 5 installer? I also have a program to go with it that will reset interlok. Please keep in mind that Waves 5 is OS X only.

I also have an iChing Install CD for OS 9. The software is truly brilliant, graphically beautiful and it took a lot of time and know how to build the program. If you like the iching, this is a must have! No serial number required. Originally I paid for the program. I can make a disk image of the CD.

OS 9 used to be my specialty!..... 16 years ago. I operated an independent Macintosh Consulting and repair business for 14 years. My OS 9 knowledge however, is still buried in the cobwebs of my memory and I am always willing to offer my insights when I have something to share.

I love recording but digital audio is not my specialty. I'm looking forward to learning from all of you as I slowly get set up again with a small studio. I learned on Bias Deck 3.5 and that is still what I use. It has been sufficient for my needs so far and the program has rendered some beautiful recordings. And now with Waves 5 working in Demo mode in Panther, I'm all set to go.



Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: mrhappy on February 25, 2016, 08:04:28 AM
My OS 9 knowledge however, is still buried in the cobwebs of my memory

We need to dust off those cobwebs, as there must be many pearls of wisdom that we could use around here!! ;D ;D

I'll contribute a large box of 'Wheaties' and some espresso to the cause if that would help!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: IIO on February 25, 2016, 08:21:03 AM

Quote
The Pace installer looks for OS9 elements when installing the interlock software, even if the user no longer uses OS 9.

this does not mean that it wont work when OS9 is not present. just try it.

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Any software I have I am willing to share [...] Is there a set of site guidelines I can read in regard to sharing software? [...] How would I go about uploading the Waves 5 installer?

your attitude is most welcome here. regarding audio stuff, we´re only missing some 10 products (most of which i doubt that anyone can help). but we will start with video and graphics sooner or later. i bet i must have missed the one or other PS plug-in back in the days.

Quote
I also have an iChing Install CD for OS 9.

this? :) http://www.macintoshrepository.org/1683-i-ching-connection
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 25, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
We are keeping Adrive for all the actual downloads. But future uploads will go to your own MediaFire account. Once you share a file with us, we notice you via Private Message that we had it and you can delete the shares.

Each share must be encapsulated before uploading because all cloud services tend to strip the fork of the files. Therefore, your Anything.sit or anything.hqx file should be encoded to .BIN before be sent. The hqx.bin or sit.bin file can travel safety thru internet. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_%28disambiguation%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching_%28disambiguation%29)

I guess he means Mac Os 9 in Chinese .... I only knew about the Japanese version.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: SpiritFlight on February 26, 2016, 09:18:07 AM
The iching CD I have is different. It is an interactive program where one tosses the Chinese coins while sitting at the edge of a divining pool inside a cave with coy swimming around. Interpretation of the coins with beautiful graphics are read to the user by a female voice. It's very cool. I used to have my old g3 iMac setup just for the iching. Now it's in storage because I don't have room for it. I'm going to go see if I can find it. I hope it's inside the iMac optical drive. I will also get myself set up with media fire and see how that system works. I hope upload...
• The carbon app Deck 3.5. It runs in both OS 9 and OS X. No serial number required.
• Waves 5 (OS X) 2 files, includes Interlok reset app and Pace Interlok extensions installer. No serial number required.
• Waves 4.0 Interlock Extensions installer (OS 9/OS X)

Peace,
Steffan
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: SpiritFlight on February 26, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Here is the apple script code for toggling between visible and invisible files. Tested in Panther (Mac OS 10.3).

Copy entire code below and paste it into a new apple script window and then "Save As" Application" It works great.

display dialog "Set the visibility of hidden files..." buttons {"Cancel", "Visible", "Invisible"} default button 1
copy the result as list to {buttonpressed}
if the buttonpressed is "Invisible" then
      try
      tell application "Finder" to quit
      do shell script "defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles OFF"
      delay 1
      tell application "Finder" to activate
   end try
else if the buttonpressed is "Visible" then
   try
      tell application "Finder" to quit
      do shell script "defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles ON"
      delay 1
      tell application "Finder" to activate
   end try
end if
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Miro Le Ravi on November 17, 2016, 04:37:05 PM
hello is this i lock  works for the waveshell 2.8  and the vst wrapper ? 
i m searching to make functionning them again 
 idon't find back  installer and authorization codes
thanks for answering
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: MacTron on November 18, 2016, 05:55:10 AM
This procedure is intended for Waves 4.x. You have to figure out by yourself If this work or not with Waves 2.8.
Anyway, I recommend you to use the 3.2 version that it's available here:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,1159.msg4435.html#msg4435

and don't need the resetting procedure ;)

I had tried the vst wrapper several years ago and worked fine for me. I don't know what kind of issue you have. But anyway, if you need VST stuff please use Cubase, and forget about this "solutions"  (the waveshell and the wrapper ) because it adds extra complexity to the working enviroment and it lead to stability problems in to the near future.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Miro Le Ravi on November 18, 2016, 09:05:59 AM
thanks but do you thinks  it s gonna work on the dp2.72 the  wave 3.2?
thanks because i have used till today the 2.8? and there were a wave key emulator  in the board? 
how should i do  with this one ? 
anyway thanks i will try
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Miro Le Ravi on November 18, 2016, 10:27:56 AM
well  i understand your point
 but i ve used  the vst wrapper  for years  and the waveshell 2.8 and it was perfect
are you sure the 3.2 works with the dp2.72
thanks :)
i will try
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Miro Le Ravi on November 18, 2016, 11:10:27 AM
very thanks mactron

could you just tell  me if i have to install them with a key code and a wave key emulator? 
or just put the files where they have to run ?
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: IIO on November 18, 2016, 02:57:26 PM
waveshell 3.x works fine with vstwrapper
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: luciopaolucci75 on March 02, 2020, 08:16:34 PM
Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way:

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2784.0;attach=3001)

1- Install iLok 5.05 (attached)
2- Drag and drop your startup HD to the "Make all visible" app. (attached)
3- Run the scrip "iLok 5.05 Time ResetScript" (attached)
4- Reboot your computer.

Perform steps 2 to 4 each time the demo expires.

This was successfully tested with Waves 4, I guest it should work with other iLok time demos, ( SonyOxford stuff and Antares Filter ... ) as far as they work with iLok engine 5.0.5  ;)


Hi Guys! Im new on this community, I came here specifically because this post. Im interested in trying this method, but my problem is that I cant find the "attached files". Am I too dumb or these files aren't attached?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: GaryN on March 03, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
They're right there in the first post:

* iLokTimeResetScript.sit
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on March 03, 2020, 03:12:41 PM

Im interested in trying this method, but my problem is that I cant find the "attached files". Am I too dumb or these files aren't attached?

Thanks in advance!
It is normal behaviour. Until you write a post, you cant see attached files,
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: mrhappy on March 04, 2020, 06:27:05 AM

It is normal behaviour. Until you write a post, you cant see attached files,

So THAT'S how we suck them in!! Haha! ;D
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: elbrotus on July 23, 2020, 06:54:28 AM
its work in 2020? for Soundtoys 5
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: theviirus on September 12, 2020, 07:58:56 PM
i cant figure out why, but the "make all visible" part of the process doesnt show up as an application nor can I drag/drop my HD onto it.

has anyone run into this?
any thoughts anyone?

solved, somehow;  I renamed “make all visible” with an hqx file extension, a stuffit window popped up, then I found myself able to drag my HD to the “make all visible” file.  Now my HD is being scanned and it’s showing all those “_(filename)” files that we can’t ever get rid of.  :-)

maybe someone will be able to explain how what I did works
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: sasha33belov on September 13, 2020, 05:10:38 AM
will try this today, and inform you if it still working
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: ivanshpak on December 27, 2021, 12:03:29 PM
Hello everyone! I want to try this method, and I want to see the files in the attachment
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on December 30, 2021, 08:34:06 AM
Hello everyone! I want to try this method, and I want to see the files in the attachment

Better if you drop some lines here: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,1991.0.html (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,1991.0.html)
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: hoovers@dawn on October 16, 2022, 10:08:47 PM
Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way:

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2784.0;attach=3001)

1- Install iLok 5.05 (attached)
2- Drag and drop your startup HD to the "Make all visible" app. (attached)
3- Run the scrip "iLok 5.05 Time ResetScript" (attached)
4- Reboot your computer.

Perform steps 2 to 4 each time the demo expires.

This was successfully tested with Waves 4, I guest it should work with other iLok time demos, ( SonyOxford stuff and Antares Filter ... ) as far as they work with iLok engine 5.0.5  ;)


thank you mactron this worked a treat for the antares filter reset. Currently downloading waves 4 to try, seen as though im going to be resetting the ilok...

cheers again  8)
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: solidgameent on June 06, 2023, 05:21:00 PM
I just want to be able to see the attachment links
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: mrhappy on June 08, 2023, 06:44:03 AM
check out the post from Protools5LEGuy above. ;D
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: ssp3 on June 08, 2023, 07:41:47 AM
Sorry, posted here by mistake. Mods, please delete. Thanks!
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: mcjagger on September 12, 2023, 03:23:22 PM
Hello,

I appreciate the post!

Forgive my naivety, but how could this work with an M1 Mac? I tried the above but to no avail.

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: rvense on September 12, 2023, 10:09:36 PM
Nobody here cares - this forum is about Macs that are 20 years old or more. Good luck though.
Title: Re: Resetting the iLok time demo, the easy way.
Post by: chokobo on November 21, 2023, 01:35:01 PM
Hello,

I appreciate the post!

Forgive my naivety, but how could this work with an M1 Mac? I tried the above but to no avail.

Thank you in advance.

This hack is for a previous version of PACE that ran on Mac OS9. PACE (the makers of the iLok), have gotten a bit more sophisticated since then. However, by employing a proper iPatch it is still possible to circumvent their activities, but you wont likely find that information here.

Nobody here cares - this forum is about Macs that are 20 years old or more. Good luck though.

I wouldn't say no one cares. There are likely more than a few people that frequent this local that also have newer machines.  8)