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Title: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on January 21, 2015, 06:50:09 PM
So now that I'm getting my Mix3 system up and running and loading it up with tons of plugins, most of which I'll probably never use ::)... I started thinking about some plugs that I really like... one of my 'go to' plugs is the Sony Oxford Dynamics  but I was thinking that there wouldn't be a OS 9 version. Did a quick search and found this SOS link that mentions PT TDM/ RTAS OS 9! I'd LOVE to have this on my PT system!

Anyhoo... Has anyone here used this in PT 5.1.3/ OS 9??

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug04/articles/sonyoxford.htm
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on January 21, 2015, 08:16:17 PM
(http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/aug04/images/sonyoxford2.l.jpg)

ugly lookin isnt it? :D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on January 21, 2015, 10:27:56 PM
I have it :)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on January 21, 2015, 10:44:27 PM
I have it :)
Do demo works without ilok?
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on January 21, 2015, 11:32:13 PM
I have the full version with no need for iLok. Don't know if it's the last OS9 version though.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on January 22, 2015, 02:13:41 AM
I have it :)

hmm so how come its not posted here???
you said like 1 year ago u were gonna post all u had!

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on January 22, 2015, 06:12:25 AM
WOW Knezzen!!! Now you've got me all excited!!! And NO ilok!!!


ugly lookin isnt it? :D


As I said, that's one of my 'go to' plugs so it's not ugly at ALL to me, but rather BEAUTIFUL!!!! ;D

I'm just thrilled to know that it exists for OS 9 without Ilok. If that should happen to show up here I'd be jumping for joy!! ;)

BTW... I think Knezzen is by FAR the MOST handsome member here!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(or at least tied with ChrisNova777 and DieHard!! ;D)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on January 22, 2015, 06:52:06 AM
I have it :)

hmm so how come its not posted here???
you said like 1 year ago u were gonna post all u had!

Something called life got in the way ;)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on January 22, 2015, 07:50:11 AM
Hi, guys! My first post here!
Glad this site exists!! I am using os9 for my Mix+ system.
Anyway, back to topic:
I have Sonnox dynamics, eq, inflator working fine in demo mode for 2 weeks. Then they stop working. I just load into OSX and run Ilok reset soft. Then restart in OS9 - next 2 weeks of heaven for free :) Same process for Waves Shell Dae.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on January 22, 2015, 08:06:43 AM
Hi, guys! My first post here!
Glad this site exists!! I am using os9 for my Mix+ system.
Anyway, back to topic:
I have Sonnox dynamics, eq, inflator working fine in demo mode for 2 weeks. Then they stop working. I just load into OSX and run Ilok reset soft. Then restart in OS9 - next 2 weeks of heaven for free :) Same process for Waves Shell Dae.

Welcome!

Can you explain your method as if I were a five years old child?

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on January 22, 2015, 09:11:39 AM
Sure.
My system is dual boot.
I have these Sonnox plugs in os9. Fully functional demo mode. When I start them, there is this window and I press Try. The windows shows number of days left for trial period.
In Osx i have this Ilok reset utility.
When time comes i boot into Osx, start disc utility, select os9 partition and close startup disk without restarting.
Then launch Ilok reset, click Manual Reset and system restarts into os9 with renewed Ilok date.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on January 22, 2015, 11:02:46 AM
Sure.
My system is dual boot.
I have these Sonnox plugs in os9. Fully functional demo mode. When I start them, there is this window and I press Try. The windows shows number of days left for trial period.
In Osx i have this Ilok reset utility.
When time comes i boot into Osx, start disc utility, select os9 partition and close startup disk without restarting.
Then launch Ilok reset, click Manual Reset and system restarts into os9 with renewed Ilok date.
Please be more specific with the OSX version you dual boot and the ilok resetter you use.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on January 22, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
I just load into OSX and run Ilok reset soft.

this sounds right. but, everyone, it is not guaranteed to work when you have newer pace products for OSX (which you bought) on the same machine. so use this method on OS9-audio-only machines.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on January 22, 2015, 11:34:39 AM
I just load into OSX and run Ilok reset soft.

this sounds right. but, everyone, it is not guaranteed to work when you have newer pace products for OSX (which you bought) on the same machine. so use this method on OS9-audio-only machines.

Correct, I don't use OSX for anything but This procedure. So I don't know how it impacts plugs in OSX. If any other info needed from me, let me know.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on January 22, 2015, 11:43:40 AM
Sure.
My system is dual boot.
I have these Sonnox plugs in os9. Fully functional demo mode. When I start them, there is this window and I press Try. The windows shows number of days left for trial period.
In Osx i have this Ilok reset utility.
When time comes i boot into Osx, start disc utility, select os9 partition and close startup disk without restarting.
Then launch Ilok reset, click Manual Reset and system restarts into os9 with renewed Ilok date.
Please be more specific with the OSX version you dual boot and the ilok resetter you use.

Osx 10.3.1
Do you mean Ilok resetters's version or what?
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on January 22, 2015, 11:50:49 AM
Something called life got in the way ;)

yeah.... so everyone else can share their stuff for your benefit but
you are too lazy to share yours for theirs??

ahh ok i see how it is ;)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on January 22, 2015, 07:37:31 PM
[youtube]LlVI7ZNiFlI[/youtube]

He's got the iLook   !    ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on January 22, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
i love that track ! reminds me of grade 5 lol

knez knows im buggin him i hope
shhh im trying to trick him into actually posting something :D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on January 22, 2015, 10:41:42 PM
@Sanek:

Is OSX in same drive and partition than OS9?

I have a panther Install on one drive and OS9 on another.

I guess your method involves having both on same drive and partition.

Example: To have on a drive called MacDrive 2 system folders, one for OS9 and another for X.

If this reset method works, finally, we could have the same plugs on OS9 and OSX and do a real benchmark between PT5LE and PT6LE. I mean, the Digirack II, Waves 4 and Oxford. Enough tools to make anything
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on January 22, 2015, 11:28:11 PM
Something called life got in the way ;)

yeah.... so everyone else can share their stuff for your benefit but
you are too lazy to share yours for theirs??

ahh ok i see how it is ;)

I guess you have a bad memory then. I uploaded ALL my plugins to ADrive. DieHard didn't want to post the whole plugin pack, so that's why it has been some time I guess.

Pretty much all the plugins in the TDM downloads are from my plugin pack.

Don't call me lazy.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on January 22, 2015, 11:58:17 PM
knez i was jokin buddy  ;D 8)
just kidding around
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on January 23, 2015, 12:11:01 AM
No problem ;)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 12, 2015, 10:08:35 AM
Folks, We still haven't publish that Sony/Sonnox demos for OS9

Here you can't find them http://www.sonnoxplugins.com/pub/plugins/support/demos.php (http://www.sonnoxplugins.com/pub/plugins/support/demos.php)
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We offer free, fully-functional, 15-day demo versions of Sonnox Oxford plug-ins.

Please note, all Sonnox plug-ins (including demo versions) rely on using an iLok smartkey for authorisation.

Native 64-bit Audio Units, VST and AAX DSP and AAX Native versions of Sonnox plug-ins require iLok2.

More information on iLok can be found at :

www.ilok.com


Click on the 'More information' link below to obtain your free demo.

These are for UAD-2 http://www.uaudio.com/store/mastering/oxford-inflator.html (http://www.uaudio.com/store/mastering/oxford-inflator.html). No OS9 happiness...  :(

These ones from wayback machine (internet archive) don't work:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070429175457/http://www.sonnoxplugins.com/pub/plugins/support/demos-le.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20070429175457/http://www.sonnoxplugins.com/pub/plugins/support/demos-le.htm)

Please, it is just a demo, not your credit card security numbers... Can we share?

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on February 12, 2015, 12:36:41 PM
Folks, We still haven't publish that Sony/Sonnox demos for OS9


Please, it is just a demo, not your credit card security numbers... Can we share?

I'll second that and add...'Pretty Please'!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: DieHard on February 12, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
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I guess you have a bad memory then. I uploaded ALL my plugins to ADrive. DieHard didn't want to post the whole plugin pack, so that's why it has been some time I guess.

Pretty much all the plugins in the TDM downloads are from my plugin pack.

Don't call me lazy.

Only ProTools Plugins I ever saw uploaded were from Mix Mod and I posted them... so maybe you deleted them before I saw them ?

Sorry Knez, but they were never uploaded here...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on February 12, 2015, 01:14:55 PM
Im looking in my uploads folder just now and there is a 259mb big file called "TDM-RTAS-plugins.sit" in there dated 2014-03-19.

How can you have missed this? I wrote you a PM when it was uploaded a year ago.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on February 12, 2015, 01:31:54 PM
I just looked though everything, and no Sony Oxford stuff at all :(.
So we still need to source this. I was sure I had it... damn...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: DieHard on February 12, 2015, 01:34:07 PM
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Im looking in my uploads folder just now and there is a 259mb big file called "TDM-RTAS-plugins.sit" in there dated 2014-03-19.

How can you have missed this? I wrote you a PM when it was uploaded a year ago.

You may as well delete it.  As stated about a hundred times before... each plugin should be in a folder, with a text file and a screen shot, if you are too busy to do that, then delete it, I am sure the other PT users will understand  ;)

200 plugins zipped together with no explanation is just a meaningless archive

PS: Took my Chris vitamins today
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on February 12, 2015, 01:38:01 PM
So it's better to delete several hundreds of plugins than posting them in a bunch and help people in their search? Makes a lot of sense ;)

I'll get to the job of sorting them then... Damn. I need to build myself an other PT rig to do this. I wont mess with the production rig.

EDIT: Just looked though the folders in my plugin pack real quick.
There are 440 TDM & RTAS plugins in there. Will take some time to get them sorted. Just so you know.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: DieHard on February 12, 2015, 01:49:34 PM
Knezzen (Joined: March 16, 2014, 10:46:07 AM)

Maybe 10 a year... anything is better than nothing...

Count so far: 0
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on February 12, 2015, 01:53:26 PM
Aha. So we are counting now? Fun. I'll get to it then, boss.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: DieHard on February 12, 2015, 02:17:22 PM
No counting, I'm just in a bad mood :(

When you get time, post the best ones first, I am sure other PT users will benefit :)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on February 12, 2015, 02:22:54 PM
I was a bit too sarcastic perhaps. Sorry for that. I'll get to it this weekend, posting what I use on a daily basis to start with, because those plugins are very well tested ;)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 12, 2015, 02:30:24 PM
I'll get to it this weekend, posting what I use on a daily basis to start with, because those plugins are very well tested ;)

Happiness is easy [youtube]tpGkiZ7FGmg[/youtube]


I have these Sonnox plugs in os9. Fully functional demo mode. When I start them, there is this window and I press Try. The windows shows number of days left for trial period.
In Osx i have this Ilok reset utility.
When time comes i boot into Osx, start disc utility, select os9 partition and close startup disk without restarting.
Then launch Ilok reset, click Manual Reset and system restarts into os9 with renewed Ilok date.

Please Sanek, get in contact. No one has these demos but you.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 12, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
Hi, guys!
Sorry for being so late. Somehow Ireceive no updates from this thread. Or any...
I've read the post.
I'll try to find them tomorrow.
As for the question about different partitions or not, will check tom too.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 12, 2015, 03:45:14 PM
partitions dont matter. one can just reset all partitions to be sure.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: ferridirection on February 12, 2015, 04:02:17 PM
Don't no if this helps - I use Sony Oxford EQ and dynamics on my mix plus 5.1.3 and on my OS 9 only drive I run a software called Filebuddy - you basically delete 3 hidden files using this software, restart and the demo period starts over.

I don't have the installer but if you're interested I can try and find it.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 12, 2015, 05:57:11 PM
Don't no if this helps - I use Sony Oxford EQ and dynamics on my mix plus 5.1.3 and on my OS 9 only drive I run a software called Filebuddy - you basically delete 3 hidden files using this software, restart and the demo period starts over.

I don't have the installer but if you're interested I can try and find it.

What version of FileBuddy? http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2274.0 (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2274.0)

What is the path of these 3 hidden files?

Can you send us your Oxford files?

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on February 12, 2015, 11:08:23 PM
Now we're talking'... i NEED these!!! Keep the ball rollin'!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Chris vitamins for everyone!!!
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on February 12, 2015, 11:59:23 PM

You may as well delete it.  As stated about a hundred times before... each plugin should be in a folder, with a text file and a screen shot, if you are too busy to do that, then delete it, I am sure the other PT users will understand  ;)

200 plugins zipped together with no explanation is just a meaningless archive

PS: Took my Chris vitamins today

agreed... if this was the amount of effort all of us were investing in this site..
the site would not exist.. and it would be totally useless.. and non-educational.
this goes inline with what i said to IIO when he posted a million things in the vault..
one or two well explained things far outvalue 1000 unexplained things.

Knez u were the one who said over a year ago that u were going to sort them all immaculately
+ post them all.. and then Syntho ended up doing the work. (somehow? i dont even know how that happened)


lol chris vitamins?
a)so u can be a dick like me?
b)so u can tolerate me?
c)so u can be amazing like me ;D

lol
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Knezzen on February 13, 2015, 12:06:28 AM
Yes, Chris, I did. And Im sorry that I didn't do anything. I have more time on my hands now and the "spark" is getting back to me.

And I uploaded the pack a month before all the posting guidelines from DieHard where released.


Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: supernova777 on February 13, 2015, 12:44:57 AM
knez im not attacking you man.....

u should do what u feel is important.. as we all always have done + always will do..

i was only making the point that doing things 1 thing at a time slowly over time.. its alot better then trying to upload 1000 things at once.. because we are all focused on other things aswell.. and can only chew one biteful at a time.

the small steady drip fills the bucket

(http://thebetplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/dripping-tap.jpg)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 13, 2015, 05:55:02 AM
What is the path of these 3 hidden files?

he is right it also works manually. it is different files on every computer. i dont inow by heart but i think its all in root/hfsextenttables/. check this with resedit or any other app which lets you browse invisible folders, then just watch out what the installer adds to it.
(and again: dont delete anything inside this folder of which you dont know where it belongs to in case you also have also bought products which use the same method.)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: ferridirection on February 13, 2015, 06:52:08 AM
So ...

Filebuddy 7.6 on Mac OS 9.2.2
files are :

TheVolumesettingsfolder
Desktop DB
Desktop DF

after this you got 14 days to compress and equalize properly

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 13, 2015, 08:52:52 AM
Thanks ferridirection (and welcome by the way) for your pure OS9 method to reset iLok plugs.

Thanks Sanek for your OSX method.

We got the OS, the machine and the reseter. What am I missing? Oh, yeah.

Will anyone of you be so nice to send us the demo? This is like having the keys of a car, all the fuel desired and no car.

Aha. So we are counting now? Fun. I'll get to it then, boss.

Yes, some of us have skills to count:

Methods to fools iLok: 2    vs    Demos needing iLok: 0

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 13, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
Yes, guys, I'll try to post them tonight...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 13, 2015, 12:05:54 PM
Welcome to the Club  8)
https://www31.adrive.com/filemanager/downloadfile/2407783-87697408/Sonnox_Os9.rar
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 13, 2015, 03:36:28 PM
The mixer that brought us this plugs

[youtube]dinGtdAgE5E[/youtube]

[youtube]VOb_HqK0_RA[/youtube]
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Michael Tapes,5 months ago. As I recall we sold somewhere around 50+ consoles in total. I have no idea how many are still in use.
http://www.broadcaststore.com/store/model_detail.cfm?id=670400 (http://www.broadcaststore.com/store/model_detail.cfm?id=670400)

http://www.soundpure.com/m/sonnox-ltd-sony-oxford-/582 (http://www.soundpure.com/m/sonnox-ltd-sony-oxford-/582)
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Sonnox Ltd. has evolved out of Sony Oxford, which in turn traces its history back to a group of five dedicated audio professionals that first worked together in the early 1980s. These engineers spent many years together designing analogue and digital consoles for Solid State Logic, and subsequently left to start a new Company in 1988 that was called Oxford Digital. Over the following few years the team slowly expanded, until in 1993 it became Sony Oxford. The major product design from Sony Oxford was the OXF-R3 Digital Mixing Console, commonly called 'the Oxford Console'. This high end digital audio console was conceived by Oxford Digital in the late 1980s and productised for commercial release by Sony in the mid 1990s.

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All hardware and software, all audio i/o, all system architecture and cosmetic design, and all audio algorithms and signal flow were designed by the engineers in Oxford, including an audio DSP chip (at that time it was impossible to buy DSP technology with enough power). Even a bespoke microcode compiler and router were developed from scratch. Although software maintenance of the OXF-R3 continued for some years, the core activities of the group diversified. Sony Oxford became the world leader for development of 1-bit audio processing (DSD, the basis for SACD), and additionally a variety of R&D contracts were undertaken on behalf of various groups in Sony. As technology became cheaper with increasing power, a group formed in Sony Oxford that began to focus on how best to re-purpose the Oxford technologies into audio workstations. This group became a development partner with DigiDesign and began work to create the Oxford EQ for Pro Tools. At the same time, work was started on the infrastructure for an e-commerce scheme that would become instrumental for sales and registration of the new software products. In September 2002 the CD boxed versions of the OXF-R3 EQ started selling around the world. This was followed by a port of the EQ to TC Works PowerCore, a version of the OXF-R3 Dynamics section, and then two newer plug-ins (the Inflator and the TransMod), which didn't feature prominently in the Oxford console and needed significant re-working for the plug-ins market.These early products were followed with a Reverb and a Limiter, and the platform base was broadened to include native hosts such as VST and Audio Units. By 2006 this plug-ins software initiative was operating as an almost self-contained business unit within Sony.

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To stimulate the business and allow it to thrive, the business unit was spun out of Sony in April 2007 and became a new and independent Company called Sonnox Ltd. Looking to the future, Sonnox is committed to expanding its plug-ins business with frequent introduction of new products and support for a wide range of platforms.



Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 14, 2015, 11:43:28 AM
Shit, the Sonnox os9.rar files appears as 2 folders, the 3 files, a finder.dat file and a RESOURCE.FRK folder with the 3 files.  How to recover this?

It is supposed to be the demo installer or the actual plug to place on DAE/Plugins?


WARNING: OFFTOPIC

The screen set of the mixer seem like Atari ST/Amiga/ first 16 bit machines. Or more accurate, a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes), don't you think?



Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on February 14, 2015, 01:17:49 PM
I'm just getting a "Not Allowed" message :'(
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 14, 2015, 01:43:27 PM
Here is for those outside Adrive club.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 14, 2015, 02:27:43 PM
Shit, the Sonnox os9.rar files appears as 2 folders, the 3 files, a finder.dat file and a RESOURCE.FRK folder with the 3 files.  How to recover this?

It is supposed to be the demo installer or the actual plug to place on DAE/Plugins

just place them in DAE / plugins folder.
If there are any issues, let me know. We'sort it out.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 14, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
just place them in DAE / plugins folder.
If there are any issues, let me know. We'sort it out.

I will try to explain better. The RAR file is unrared with unRARX on 10.6.8. That gives me a folder with name Sonnox_Os9 that contains 4 files called SonyOxfordDynamics_OS9, SonyOxfordEQ_OS9 ,SonyOxfordInflator_OS9 and FINDER.DAT. Also a folder called RESOURCE.FRK that contains 3 files SONYOX'1, SONYOX'2 and SONYOX'3.

I think the resources are broken, because they are in a different folder. I can't expand the files in other way. Stuffit in OS9 makes the same thing.

Sanek, can you install  FileType and tell us what type and creator they have in your DAE/Plugins to work?

Someone has recovered resources in RESOURCE.FRK to the files in OS9?

All I found is a UNIX terminal app without GUI https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/mac-os-x/0596009437/re80.html (https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/mac-os-x/0596009437/re80.html)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 14, 2015, 02:53:23 PM
just place them in DAE / plugins folder.
If there are any issues, let me know. We'sort it out.

If your 3 files are mean to be placed on DAE/Plug folder, they are the plugs themselves.

The best solution to transfer those files is to make a .sit file of everyone, and that file encode to .BIN

Moderators have included those methods on some post, but I cant find them.

.RAR and .ZIP are standard today, but they are hard to manage on OS9.

I tried both MacRAR posted on http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2214.0 (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2214.0) and noon works for me...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 14, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
Check my adrive dir
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 14, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
Check my adrive dir
Just did. Dynamic expands, Eq expands, but Inflator is not a sit.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 14, 2015, 03:36:59 PM
Try those 2. Will post Inflator tom.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 14, 2015, 03:38:09 PM
Placed the files on plugs folder, protools load them when opening but they do not appear in plugins list or Audiosuite...

Maybe is a trouble related to LE systems.

By the way, the files from the rar have surname OS9 and the sit files got OSX surname
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 14, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
Damn, it's been a long time since I had installed them... Don't remember exactly, how and which distrubutive was the right one...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 14, 2015, 04:24:06 PM
i am not sure if inflator existed at all in OS9. the two others do. the reverb was for PTHD only, and the restoration was TDM only. after restoration everything was OSX only.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on February 14, 2015, 05:15:28 PM
I have Inflator in os 9.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 17, 2015, 09:49:48 AM
As some are requesting, attached is a .sit version (with the resource fork OK) Of Sony Oxford TDM Demo plugins.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 17, 2015, 10:56:09 AM
Thanks, MacTron!

They haven't that resource fork trouble!

I have tested them 3 on Protools LE 5.2.1, and the 3 are seen as Plugs for PT (It says me that is a 15 days demo on all plugs load at start) but only Oxford EQ&Filters seem to be RTAS compatible, at least with Audiomedia III. I will test on Digi001 soon. I hope someone could test it in Protools Free just for the sake of Free users
I have also checked AudioSuite, and only EQ&Filters appear.

Should I delete preferences or something to try if they "appear" in plug list? I never needed to make that to make plugs compatible run.

It is strange, because, normally, when I load a TDM only plug the machine froze s.  And I have restart the machine and take the TDM plug outside the plug's folder to run PT LE. But these 2 do not froze the machine, but simply, aren't available.

Shame Inflator! Shame Dynamics! You should be RTAS!  >:(

Probably all TDM users are LOL XD   ;D  ;D  ;D
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Buy a TDM rig, boy! What are you waiting for?

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 18, 2015, 10:14:06 AM
... I hope someone could test it in Protools Free just for the sake of Free users

Yes, it works in Pro Tools free. But Sony Oxford EQ pluging only.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 18, 2015, 01:13:30 PM
BTW: The Mac Os 9 method of iLok resetting for this Sony Oxford plugins doesn't work.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 18, 2015, 02:10:14 PM
BTW: The Mac Os 9 method of iLok resetting for this Sony Oxford plugins doesn't work.

Here are 2 methods AFAIK:

So ...

Filebuddy 7.6 on Mac OS 9.2.2
files are :

TheVolumesettingsfolder
Desktop DB
Desktop DF

after this you got 14 days to compress and equalize properly
Sure.
My system is dual boot.
I have these Sonnox plugs in os9. Fully functional demo mode. When I start them, there is this window and I press Try. The windows shows number of days left for trial period.
In Osx i have this Ilok reset utility.
When time comes i boot into Osx, start disc utility, select os9 partition and close startup disk without restarting.
Then launch Ilok reset, click Manual Reset and system restarts into os9 with renewed Ilok date.

I got to say that I tested OSX version and get outdated in only one day, after using the ilok reseter tool on Panther.

Can Greg's browser see hidden folders?

Did you tried the hidden files method?

What was the OS9 method you mention as non working, MacTron?
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 18, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
The deleting hidden files method doesn't work.

The reinstalling DAE folder and iLok extensions method doesn't work.

The erase the full HD partition and reinstall everything from start doesn't work.

May be the re-format/re-partition the full HD may work, but I haven't tried it yet ... LOL
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 18, 2015, 02:47:49 PM
The deleting hidden files method doesn't work.

The reinstalling DAE folder and iLok extensions method doesn't work.

The erase the full HD partition and reinstall everything from start doesn't work.

May be the re-format/re-partition the full HD may work, but I haven't tried it yet ... LOL

The erase the full HD method always worked for me on Panther. Maybe if this don't worked for you is because it writes something in the ApplePartitionMap itself.

I guess our best method is to build our own instant DAW with all plugs but these iloked demos. Restore the instant DAW and install the demos. It is not the worst workflow every 15 days. In fact, Protools 6 OSX users have to do it every 15 days or use ilok resseters.

There are 2 ilok resseters Panther compatible AFAIK. I have to test the second one.

 
What is the path of these 3 hidden files?

he is right it also works manually. it is different files on every computer. i dont inow by heart but i think its all in root/hfsextenttables/. check this with resedit or any other app which lets you browse invisible folders, then just watch out what the installer adds to it.
(and again: dont delete anything inside this folder of which you dont know where it belongs to in case you also have also bought products which use the same method.)

I have no product bought but the Digi interfaces (001 and AM3) and the Logic XSKey. I doubt changing root/hfsextanttables could damage anything in the hardware side.

I got no licenses of software but the Protools LE ones.

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 18, 2015, 05:19:10 PM
I think that we do not meet Sanek and Ferridirection way to do.

I think they both have OSX and OS9 on same drive and same partition.

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 18, 2015, 05:27:30 PM
Restore the instant DAW and install the demos.


the other option is not to use these few plug-ins affected by the "not available problem".

or buy them... as for waves 4, i think it should be possible to buy a license today for around USD 100 for the whole bundle.

there are plug-ins like antares filter where the demo period is only 7 days, do you really want to reformat your harddrive every week?

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I doubt changing root/hfsextanttables could damage anything in the hardware side.

i am not talking about hardware, i was talking about other demos and/or licenses you may have bought. there are several folders there for different products.

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 18, 2015, 06:02:15 PM
Restore the instant DAW and install the demos.


the other option is not to use these few plug-ins affected by the "not available problem".



We start from the premise than we want to use SonyEQ&Filters for more than 14 days.  ;D

How to keep using those demos without having to format the partition/drive every 14 days?

Restore the instant DAW and install the demos.


or buy them... as for waves 4, i think it should be possible to buy a license today for around USD 100 for the whole bundle.


I would love to have a market were Waves 4 would cost 100 USD. I see more like 1000$  ;D

They have declared them obsoletes or abandonware.

I am reading betwen the  lines that every file in

Filebuddy 7.6 on Mac OS 9.2.2
files are :

TheVolumesettingsfolder
Desktop DB
Desktop DF

after this you got 14 days to compress and equalize properly

Are iloked products that maybe are working and I didn't realize they were working.

i am not talking about hardware, i was talking about other demos and/or licenses you may have bought. there are several folders there for different products.

So you sugest to be careful with the content of these and delete them one by one having a backup elsewhere just in case other plug already authored ask for auth. , don't you?

If it allows me to use in Protools Waves 4 and Oxford EQ on OS9, I wouldn't mind if iMovie 2.0.2 ask me for the serial number each time it prompts, for example. What are your concerns about that, IIO? Yours answers seem to tell that we are playing with dinamyte or antrax... Most of us are musicians/enthusiast just focused on make music with the most tools available
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 19, 2015, 07:31:24 AM
well, you gave the best example yourself: you installed the sony demos and tried to reset them after only one day, and now they are gone.

so my general advise is that if you want to use software more or less without problems, use either freeware, fullcracks, or buy it.

or, alternatively, know what you are doing.

in the case of sony, we dont know what we are doing. there is no easy how-to from a trusted source. nobody can give you a guarantee that you dont knock out another product if you fiddle with these funny pace folders (or the later partition map stuff)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 19, 2015, 08:26:25 AM
well, you gave the best example yourself: you installed the sony demos and tried to reset them after only one day, and now they are gone.

Yes, that happened to me on Panther trying that app that have an ilok inside an trash can.

With that app, Echoboy 14 days of demo do not get reseted. And Sony directly says Demo run out. It should work with oher plugs, but I am afraid my OSX reseter is not the tool everybody out there uses.

I want to get the ferridirection approach-method on a OS9 only partition in a drive with Panther, Tiger and Leo partitions... Yes, I know is the worst possible scenario to make tests.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 19, 2015, 08:26:42 AM
well, you gave the best example yourself: you installed the sony demos and tried to reset them after only one day, and now they are gone.

so my general advise is that if you want to use software more or less without problems, use either freeware, fullcracks, or buy it.

or, alternatively, know what you are doing.

in the case of sony, we dont know what we are doing. there is no easy how-to from a trusted source. nobody can give you a guarantee that you dont knock out another product if you fiddle with these funny pace folders (or the later partition map stuff)

I have done this just to try to help (or may be just for fun) , because -as everybody knows - I don't care a shit about Pro Tools. And of course I know what I'm doing. I'm using one MDDs that I usually use for testing purposes, so no problem into reformat the full system or disassemble it up to the power source.
To isolate the study I only have in this Mac a startup volume with a basic System folder Pro Tools Free and the Sony Oxford plugins.
... so my conclusion is that there is no iLok demo reset on Sony Oxford plugins on Mac Os 9. Unless you reformat your entire hard disk and erase the NVRAM.
I hope this help to prevent some people into breaking his head with no senses like erasing the TheVolumesettingsfolder, Desktop DB, Desktop DF...

If some one wish to really solve this in Mac Os 9, they have to begin with MacBugs, HexEdit and memory dumps.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 19, 2015, 08:39:18 AM

To isolate the study I only have in this Mac a startup volume with a basic System folder Pro Tools Free and the Sony Oxford plugins.
... so my conclusion is that there is no iLok demo reset on Sony Oxford plugins on Mac Os 9. Unless you reformat your entire hard disk and erase the NVRAM.
I hope this help to prevent some people into breaking his head with no senses like erasing the TheVolumesettingsfolder, Desktop DB, Desktop DF...

If some one wish to really solve this in Mac Os 9, they have to begin with MacBugs, HexEdit and memory dumps.

If iLok reach the NVRAM level... Maybe the reseting PRAM and the CUDA button on motherboard can do something...

What damage (aside the bought iloked licenced software) can do to a pure OS9 install to delete those 3 folders?  Is it something like rebuilding the desktop?

You got more clues than me, maybe you are just not combining those methods: Delete the 3 stuff+PRAM reset+CUDA reset+some prayers...  ;D

When you say reformat the entire HD is because you already tried t wipe a partition?

I wonder if something get written in the same APM or in the PRAM or NVRAM.

Thanks for your efforts, MacTron. We all know for you is disgusting to handle digidesign stuff. Thank you.

Soon we will have a time for the true/truth post of yours.  :D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 19, 2015, 09:01:09 AM
MacTron, would you consider to use a ASR restore over the demoed run out install?

What other tools do you use to delete those files? Greg's browser or Filebuddy.

I have never heard about MacBugs...

I guess that the whole audio industry would not trust iLok if hacking it were just deleting 3 hidden, easy to find folders. But since we have decripted ASR, I see no reason why we couldn't.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 19, 2015, 09:32:51 AM

When you say reformat the entire HD is because you already tried t wipe a partition?


Yes, I do.

MacTron, would you consider to use a ASR restore over the demoed run out install?

ASR can't do nothing here, I think.

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What other tools do you use to delete those files? Greg's browser or Filebuddy.

None of those ...
I use to delete invisible files on my startup volumes just for fun. I use to start with all the files beginning with "."  :)

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I have never heard about MacBugs...

I guess that the whole audio industry would not trust iLok if hacking it were just deleting 3 hidden, easy to find folders. But since we have decripted ASR, I see no reason why we couldn't.

iLok is based on USB secure storage and code that is decrypter only on runtime. Otherwise this Sony Oxford plugins, even though they are "iLocked", uses a very simple challenge response scheme. This doesn't means that this easy to break ... just easiest.

Even Though I'm not interested in Pro Tools, this Sony EQ is very good, may be deserves a few more tries while we dont' have it in VST format, at least ... LOL
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 19, 2015, 10:14:41 AM
ASR can't do nothing here, I think.
Disagree. An ASR image will always give a "virgin" list to compare/restore.

If the demo "touch" the APM itself, then a full drive wipe should be needed. Other OS9 backup system in other drive should make restoring a system quicker with ASR.

I think you start with a drag n drop install, later install pt free and the last step is to install SonyEQ.  In my study  ;D I start with an ASR with all my UVI libraries and PRO51 from NI installed.

I wish SonyEQ don't mess with the nvram. My main G4 is a DA that needs nvram hacks to wear bigger drives on OSX, and that could be a trouble for me in the future. At this time I only use "smaller" drives on it.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 19, 2015, 11:13:04 AM
And Sony directly says Demo run out.

or maybe you were missing the readme file, which says that you you can only reset expired demos. :)

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not the tool everybody out there uses.

if it is called after the wvs product it should be the right one. but i can not tell you by heart if it will work with the sony TDM installers. the number of "compatible" products is low. sony TDM was most likely using the dongle already. if it works, then for native products.

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Yes, I know is the worst possible scenario to make tests.

for testing it would be okay if it is a lot of work. but for everyday use?
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 19, 2015, 11:22:43 AM
I have done this just to try to help (or may be just for fun) , because -as everybody knows - I don't care a shit about Pro Tools.

of course. if it is not VST, it is secondary. :)

but what we have here is a user who claims that he is using it with exactly this method ("wvs 4 reset for OSX"). we should at last wait for a third report until we post the final truth as wikipedia article.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 19, 2015, 11:26:15 AM
What damage (aside the bought iloked licenced software) can do to a pure OS9 install to delete those 3 folders?  Is it something like rebuilding the desktop?

for most products rebuilding the desktop is not neccessary, or only required at the first round.

but in my opinion loosing a software you bought and/or which you depend on for a current project is the third worst damage you can have (after loosing the project files or damaging the computer hardware^^)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 19, 2015, 11:29:30 AM
And of course I know what I'm doing.

if we we would really know, we would not have to test it, we could just do it.

sorry, dear PT users, but i dont even have PT installed atm, haha.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 19, 2015, 01:04:38 PM
I'm having good results. ie I have achieved to reset the iLok demo in Mac Os 9 without full re-partitioning the hard disk and without re-erasing the working volume.

I'm trying to find the files involved ...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 19, 2015, 01:30:53 PM

the trick seems to be that you may not be a protools user.

since i switched to cubase in 1989 i think i even have better weather in my area.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 20, 2015, 07:15:56 AM
So ...

Filebuddy 7.6 on Mac OS 9.2.2
files are :

TheVolumesettingsfolder
Desktop DB
Desktop DF

after this you got 14 days to compress and equalize properly

I have found that ferridirection is right but only in part.
Because deleting "TheVolumeSettingsFolder", "Desktop DB" and/or "Desktop DF" is needed, but is not enough to reset the iLok counter. A few more files are implied and are located in "Preferences" and "Application Support" folder.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 20, 2015, 01:23:17 PM
Even Though I'm not interested in Pro Tools, this Sony EQ is very good, may be deserves a few more tries while we dont' have it in VST format, at least ... LOL

plus we would have to create a custom GUI for it, because the original looks terrible.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 20, 2015, 02:55:51 PM

oh, i forgot something.

you also must use this cable to make your oxford sound better.

http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-39-37feet-Braided-Cable/dp/B00IL3TX7Y/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=1HPP1Q6PV5Q0T4MP26PJ

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 20, 2015, 03:41:51 PM

or these LOL (http://www.amazon.de/Siltech-Emperor-Double-Crown-bi-wire/dp/B0089ZHCUE/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1424472560&sr=8-9&keywords=audioquest+diamond)
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 20, 2015, 04:25:58 PM
The good news is that I have a procedure that successfully reset the iLok counter for Sony Oxford plugins in Mac Os 9. The bad news is that only worked in the test computer, once I try the same procedure in the MDD I use to work on, the procedure fails, due to a missing invisibles file and folder, that should be in the Application Support folder,  :o so I'm confused ...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on February 20, 2015, 11:07:59 PM

since i switched to cubase in 1989 i think i even have better weather in my area.

Now THAT is funny! Haha! ;D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 21, 2015, 12:18:32 PM
... once I try the same procedure in the MDD I use to work on, the procedure fails ...

Now the procedure works in any computer. But the main problem is that the damn thing hides invisible files and folders in different places ( I have a  list of four of them ). And it not always use all places at the same time. Some times even write in some files in the Preferences Folders, (I have a  list of seven suspicious files )...
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on February 22, 2015, 12:31:49 AM
The bad news is that only worked in the test computer, once I try the same procedure in the MDD I use to work on, the procedure fails, due to a missing invisibles file and folder, that should be in the Application Support folder,  :o so I'm confused ...
Now the procedure works in any computer. But the main problem is that the damn thing hides invisible files and folders in different places ( I have a  list of four of them ). And it not always use all places at the same time. Some times even write in some files in the Preferences Folders, (I have a  list of seven suspicious files )...

If procedure depends on model that is bad news. I wonder if it reachs other drives aside system presents on Mac to put those hidden files. Your study was limited to one drive and one partition.

Thanks for your time MacTron. I was waiting for Sanek and ferridirection could come to forum more frequently and explain their methods in a clearer way. All OSX ilok reseter I tested did not reset the Sony ones in OSX.3 . The iLok hardware from 99 to 2011 did not changed. It is the interlok drivers what changed or evolved.

Some notes on OSX ilok
http://www.dogsonacid.com/threads/ilok-problems-with-waves-trial-version-mac-important.426828/ (http://www.dogsonacid.com/threads/ilok-problems-with-waves-trial-version-mac-important.426828/)
http://www.codez4mac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=3790 (http://www.codez4mac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=3790)
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    ((OO)) wrote:I'm pretty sure you can't reset at all if you're using pace 5.3.3. You need to uninstall and use pace version 5.3 or earlier instead.



yep, anything above 5.3.x is un-useable.

you can delete PACE from the following locations:

HD/Library/Application Support
-->PACE Anti-Piracy

HD/Library/StartupItems
-->PACESupport

HD/System/Library/CFMSupport
-->InterLok® Engine

HD/System/Library/Extentions
-->PACESupport.kext

PS: you can check what version you have by going here:
HD/Library/Application Support/PACE Anti-Piracy/iLokSupport.bundle

Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 22, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
I'm resetting everything (Sony Oxford) with iLok 5.4 !!  8) LOL

I'll try lower versions of iLok, let's see if it is easiest in this way...


I wonder if it reachs other drives aside system presents on Mac to put those hidden files. Your study was limited to one drive and one partition.

I thought that the security system can go up to the partition table level at first. But now I'm pretty sure that is limited to the partition/volume level only.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: MacTron on February 22, 2015, 12:15:42 PM
Using InterLok Engine v 5.0.5 it is really easy to reset the counter:

Delete the content of "HFSExtentTables" folder inside "TheVolumeSettingsFolder" (this folders and files are invisibles). And perform a Desktop rebuild.

The same procedure is valid for Antares Filter (and athers ILoked demos, maybe), and Yes this one is avaliable as VST (plus MAS and RTAS)  :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: ferridirection on February 25, 2015, 09:17:27 PM
sorry for my spotty presence - I'm the guy of the 3 hidden files - well - I have Mac OS 9.2.2 only and it works using that Filebuddy application - I'm gonna try to upload my Plugin files so you guys can try installing those - can't do it right now - anyway what seems different is plug-in files in the DAE folder have some spaces before the name so instead of  "Sony Dynamics" - my plug in file is called "     Sony Dynamics" - so they may be different than what you guys are intalling - I'll try to post them asap.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: mrhappy on February 25, 2015, 10:47:53 PM
Ahhh... the old 'mystery space' trick!! ;D
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: IIO on February 26, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
there are some software products which you actually may not rename because the copy protection scheme requires a certain name. the majot situation are some inits, where the name of the file controls the load order. later versions of the copypaste extension may not be renamed after you registered it - or could be renamed in a certain way in order to run it for free.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: RTIInstaller on October 01, 2015, 10:54:12 PM
So what this thread is actually saying is that if you are not a mac power user you wont be able to do this, I don't even know where to find this ---> InterLok Engine 5 or how to install it.  :-[
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: Sanek on October 03, 2015, 02:13:06 AM
I think that we do not meet Sanek and Ferridirection way to do.

I think they both have OSX and OS9 on same drive and same partition.

No, I have OS9 and OSX installed on 2 partitions of the same disk.
Title: Re: Sony Oxford Dynamics
Post by: smilesdavis on February 13, 2024, 04:15:02 AM
... once I try the same procedure in the MDD I use to work on, the procedure fails ...

Now the procedure works in any computer. But the main problem is that the damn thing hides invisible files and folders in different places ( I have a  list of four of them ). And it not always use all places at the same time. Some times even write in some files in the Preferences Folders, (I have a  list of seven suspicious files )...

when we reset ilok demos on osx we used fseventer during installation to figure out where the hidden files were placed. its a dirty method that was the best before unpace stripped the pace code out of the installers.