Mac OS 9 Lives
Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) => Topic started by: supernova777 on July 04, 2014, 11:35:39 PM
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i found this document
(http://inc2.440network.com/img/index.php/q/2KOdW7CsYG-0h-fb0JSarUh07Z-ooKVDo56drNnH4NDKjpack67tztqLppRva2Bb48mZpN5baXNIarCasIumng&ext=.jpg)
it states its for mac os 9
v1.03
ReFX Vanguard VSTi v1.03 MacOS9
from march 2004
New style, new sounds, new inspiration!
reFX presents VANGUARD, a new breed of virtual analog synthesizers.
VANGUARD is the long awaited replacement for your old 19" hardware gear
which will remain unused after you¥ve tried VANGUARD.
VANGUARD is a complete new product. reFX put all knowledge and experience
that has been collected over the past years into this projects and the
result is audible: virtual analog synthesis made a big step forward.
VANGUARD combines the good old analog synthesizer idea with the latest
technology: all analog devices of classic synthesizers are emulated by
high-quality DSP (digital signal processing) functions. reFX spent a lot
of time programming the synthesis functions as good as possible: the
result is a warm and rich sounding synthesizer plugin with all the
benefits of todays digital technology.
VANGUARD is more than just a simple synthesizer. It is equipped with 31
different type of oscillators, including uncommon digital oscillators with
fresh modulation options. There is also a huge selection of filters: 13
filter types are onboard with different slopes and including a new kind of
combined dual-filter variations.
In need of inspiration? No problem for VANGUARD - the trancegate and
arpeggiator can help you out! The trancegate is a 16-step gate to create
rhythmic gated patterns and the arpgeggiator comes with inspiring patterns
and several play modes. In addition to these creative tools VANGUARD is
equipped with a delay and reverb.
checkit!
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INSTALL NOTES:
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1. unZiP, unRAR or use our installer
2. install with one of the following serials:
EA4Q-D6XG-SYPF-E7C6-5B72-DCNJ
R974-DSNJ-KNZV-KFGB-UVMX-2UQV
3. test and then buy the program !!!
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http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1059.msg3943#msg3943
I hope we are wrong but....I guess this is a myth.
Greetz,
Arjen
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it cant be a myth there are too many sources saying that it exists for mac os 9.
april 2003
http://www.emusician.com/gear/1332/refx-vsti-plug-ins-macwin/33139
april 2004
http://www.macmusic.org/news/view.php/lang/en/id/1659/
april 2004
http://www.audiomasterclass.com/refx-announces-vanguard-virtual-analog-synth
march 2004
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/refx_vanguard_v1_0_3_released_1586
november 2004
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GpsevHG3WQEJ:www.emusician.com/prntarticle.aspx%3Farticleid%3D146141+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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If you know more about Nexus...let me know!
Confirmed: There aren't a Mac Os 9 version.
... and this text was extracted from 1.0.9 version manual:
Minimal Mac system requirements
§ Mac G4 800MHz or better / Mac Intel 1.4 GHz or better
§ Minimum of 512Mb RAM
§ Hard drive space required: 3Gb
§ Operating system: Mac OSX Version 10.4.8 or later
§ Graphics (minimum resolution): 16-bit 800x600
§ Host: Any application with either VSTi support (e.g. Cubase SX) or AU (AudioUnit) support (e.g. Logic)
v1.0.9 comes after v1.0.3 which was confirmed for mac os 9 from this documentation above.. its also possible there were two packages created with seperate copy of the requirements written for each 'version'.
wait it looks like mactron was talking about nexus?
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http://web.archive.org/web/20021014140756/http://www.refx.net/Products.htm
trying to access the refx site archived versions
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heres a small full version of "Beast" called "Claw"
http://web.archive.org/web/20021203000728/http://www.refx.net/products/Claw.htm
plasticz demo
http://web.archive.org/web/20021203003503/http://www.refx.net/downloads/PlastiCZ/PlastiCZ_Demo.sit
(i had to remove a "!" frm the url somehow the archiver made this url incorrect"
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wait it looks like mactron was talking about nexus?
No we were talking about both. I hope you can find it though!
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yeah i think that this was a screw up by the warez group themselves because i foudn the exact same document corrected/cahnged to say macosx instead of macos9
so it may have just been an error made long ago by someone
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http://web.archive.org/web/20040603104914/http://www.refx.net/news.htm
this page proves there is a mac os 9 version of this app
theres a link for the os9 demo on this page!
http://web.archive.org/web/20040603104914/http://www.refx.net/downloads/Vanguard/Vanguard_Demo.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/20040603104914/http://www.refx.net/downloads/Vanguard/Vanguard_Demo_AU.dmg
http://web.archive.org/web/20040603104914/http://www.refx.net/downloads/Vanguard/Vanguard_Demo.dmg
http://web.archive.org/web/20040603104914/http://www.refx.net/downloads/Vanguard/Vanguard_Demo.zip
(http://web.archive.org/web/20050206150405im_/http://www.refx.net/images/Vanguard/ScrShot_Full.jpg)
http://web.archive.org/web/20040803053322/http://www.refx.net/news.htm
its definately existing for mac os 9
every single other link works except for the os9 demo.. stupid web archive!!!!
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6qAnZFrRHw[/youtube]
bass at 1:15 sounds not bad!
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Great find Chris.
... now let's see if we can find the "real thing" :)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPhvuuWtNc0[/youtube]
we have to find this!!
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we have to find this!!
Yep ASAP!
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Mac requirements
Power Mac G3 600 Mhz
128 MB RAM
MacOS 8.6 or OSX 10.2
VST or AU compliant host
found on this url:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040606133734/http://www.refx.net/pro_Vanguard.htm?lang=eng
it makes me so angry that every other version of demo links work from this backup page EXCEPT the mac os 9 demo file
totally sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone have any other tricks for finding files?
http://web.archive.org/web/20040606133734/http://www.refx.net/downloads/Vanguard/Vanguard_Demo.sit
we need thissssss Vanguard_Demo.sit
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http://web.archive.org/web/20040216090324/http://www.refx.net/develop.htm?lang=eng
reFX is currently developing VANGUARD, which will be the successor to JunoX2. VANGUARD will be available mid february 2004.
so, reFX themselves saw this vanguard as the successor to JUNOX2!!
interesting.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20040216090324/http://www.refx.net/develop.htm?lang=eng
so, reFX themselves saw this vanguard as the successor to JUNOX2!!
interesting.
Yes it is... and knowing how impressive JunoX2 sounds, I can imagine how must be the sound of Vanguard!
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so there we go REFX never stopped junox2 -- it evolved into VANGUARD!
and came back with a new design.. to avoid the copyright claims of roland.
i emailed mr kleps this morning asking if i could buy the vanguard for mac os 9
this might be the best synth for mac os 9 ever made??
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this might be the best synth for mac os 9 ever made??
That's what I think of it...
Juno X2 is the most impressive sounding VST synth ever made for Mac Os 9... but is too limited.
I always thought that Vanguard isn't so limited... and if it preserve the Juno X2 sound, Vanguard MUST be the best!
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like he says..
reFX presents VANGUARD, a new breed of virtual analog synthesizers. VANGUARD is the long awaited replacement for your old 19" hardware gear which you will never us again after you have tried VANGUARD.
i hope he write me back and say yes but i have a feeling it will be a no.
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i hope he write me back and say yes but i have a feeling it will be a no.
Hope so. This would be a killer. I've been searching for it quite a while now. It's one of those mysteries.
Would be awesome if they would sell it or give it away. ;D
Greetz,
Arjen
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pretty sure he would not give it away;)
so the junox2 became--> vanguard
and the delta III became --> alpha
i think -- i think albino is related to alpha too? except with help frm rob papen?
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WOW
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.dmg?
this is macso9lives.com not macosxlives.com
are u confused? :)
mactron is going to delete you
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.dmg?
this is macso9lives.com not macosxlives.com
are u confused? :)
mactron is going to delete you
To use another machine to run a Keygen is allowed under DieHard terms. ;)
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.dmg?
this is macso9lives.com not macosxlives.com
are u confused? :)
mactron is going to delete you
To use another machine to run a Keygen is allowed under DieHard terms. ;)
we dont have the actual app dude.. thats the problem lol
do u have it?
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Juno X2 is the most impressive sounding VST synth ever made for Mac Os 9... but is too limited.
it has really nice filters, but that probably has something to do with the filters originally not beeing by refx.
he seems to have "lended" them by a colleague and they ended up shouting at each other in the kvr forums. :P
are you satisfied with the envelope? i prefer to use gate plug-ins with it instead of the ADSR.
vanguard .. is not really better, but thats just an opinion.
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I have just registered in reFX and asked them for the demo file. I submited a ticket. I think we should be asking them for the demo until it appears.
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Juno X2 is the most impressive sounding VST synth ever made for Mac Os 9... but is too limited.
it has really nice filters, but that probably has something to do with the filters originally not beeing by refx.
he seems to have "lended" them by a colleague and they ended up shouting at each other in the kvr forums. :P
LOL
are you satisfied with the envelope? i prefer to use gate plug-ins with it instead of the ADSR.
I don't use it, because is too limited.
vanguard .. is not really better, but thats just an opinion.
I'm not lucky enough to have tested Vanguard.
Do you think that Vanguard is less limited? ie, it allow more variety of sounds?
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vanguard .. is not really better, but thats just an opinion.
to quote the homepage of http://macos9lives.com
a basic premise that states opinions are like a$%holes... everybody has one.
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more variety maybe, but not the sound of the blue monster baby. it is like, you know, microwave I and microwave II. another unnecessary upgrade, where you automatically go back to the original after 2 minutes, and you just cant explain why.
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I have just registered in reFX and asked them for the demo file. I submited a ticket. I think we should be asking them for the demo until it appears.
In Wayback Machine I see there were a version for OS9, but the download in not available, but every other os does.
Could you send me the MacOS9Demo from vanguard?
http://web.archive.org/web/20040603104914/http://www.refx.net/news.htm
Jessica
Hi there,
No I'm afraid that this isn't possible. The images that you've attached are over a decade old, and I've afraid that we don't offer such a version of Vanguard any longer.
If you would like to try the Vanguard demo for OSX, you can use the following download link to obtain this demo:
http://dl.refx.com/demos/OSX_Vanguard_Demo.dmg
Regards,
Jessica
I am more interested in the OS9 version as my setup is Os9 based.
would you be a lamb and ask the old guy in the office is he had in a floppy?
I though reFX would have it in their archives
Jessica
Hi again,
No, I'm afraid that this isn't possible. I'm afraid that we don't archive old versions of Vanguard from so long ago.
Regards,
Jessica
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WOW
quadrasid, vanguard, + slayer
i told you.. they wont talk about mac os 9.. its too ancient to them, they think its not worth even talking about
as do most people who went to osx.. they think 9 was horrible + ancient history... not worth it..they think its valueless
maybe they purposely removed this file back then... to hide some failure?
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ANOTHER MIRACLE? :o
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ANOTHER MIRACLE? :o
Yes.
A few ones in fact. :)
BTW: reFX Vanguard User Manual added.
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... and SN fixed :(
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have u even tried it out yet? i see it has in common with the junox2 a very small file size
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Yes I have.
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Yes I have.
.... thats what i like about u mactron.. u are so detailed, informative + expressive.. lol
'keep it simple and take it to the max' lol
'use as few words as possible' :D
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Sometimes a morning starts so good.....sun, coffee and a mysterie solved.
Guys..... This is awesome! -afro-
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i havent got it going yet i have to do a fresh instal before i get to see this thing so if one of u gentlemen want to post a review id love to read some words:D
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i havent got it going yet i have to do a fresh instal before i get to see this thing so if one of u gentlemen want to post a review id love to read some words:D
... well, I have all the pieces of two MDD's all around me... several CPU modules and a hot iron solder... due to my overclocking activities...
So in short: Vanguard is one of the best virtual synth for Mac os 9.
I thought Vanguard Will be the best, but it is not. Any way it is one of the 4 best :)
I had to read the user manual to see all his capabilities, but the first impression is that it has the best quality sound but it takes a lot of CPU power. :(
My first virtual synth of choice is NI FM7. Vanguard have to fight against impOSCar to the second place IMHO.
Let's going to read the user manual.
BTW, I'm really surprised with PlastiCZ: simplicity and impressive sound.
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hrhr, my number 1 is the PPG, as it is my default (placeholder?) synth due to its low CPU.
soundwise there is no doubt that imposcar and oddity are the winners on OS9.
well about vanguard my position was mentioned above. i havent used it during the last 15 years, and i think that will not change. and as it seems, some of you will also not use it to make music but rather discuss it. :P
btw if you remember what you said in the midi thread about simplicity ... thats how i look at synths and fx, too. kontakt 5 or blue 2 come with faaaaar too much options for my taste.
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yes plasticz can make some really nice bass sounds .. its one of the most real analog sounding that i have heard from mac os 9
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Hi,
Just tested Vanguard! I can confirm it takes lot of CPU power. However this is only at startup?!? After a while CPU load declines (same program). At startup Vanguard is buggy. In my case it doesn't produce any audio unless I load a different VSTi in slot 1 first. Then all works fine. The sound is BIG EDM style. (programming by Vengeance.de) No wonder this a must have for most trance producers. Should have some more presets IMHO. Definitely one of the best sounding VSTi's on OS9.
Plasticz was a surprise. I love it's simplicity and clear sound. Holds up against Vanguard too.
In other words....a great addition to my setup. Thanks guys!
Greetz,
Arjen
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and as it seems, some of you will also not use it to make music but rather discuss it. :P
I disagree! ;D Just had a EDM rave with my kids. As a live synth it's kickin' hardddddd. LOL
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get ya some presets soon ;)
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Cool! Thanks. Let me know... 8)
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thanks for the review arjen ;D
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Although high on the learning curve (unless you want to use just the presets), I think Native Instruments Absynth deserves a high rating in the sound quality, stability, and uniqueness category. No other synth can produce, IMO, the variety of the sonic landscape that Absynth can… from classic synths emulations to "what the fuck is that sound" I heard a four song demo with just Absynth and Battery and it was pretty hard to believe at the time… however, I do have to mention that the synth bass lines were EQed via a real Outboard Pultec, and an outboard 1960s chamber reverb was used on many of the Lead synths parts and lastly all tracks were fed into separate Neve channel strips (that I could not identify, but were turned into rack mount gear…crazy).
In the "free" category… Crystal is a pretty cool tool to have around, even if it's just for transitional effects from one song section to another.
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Native Instruments Absynth deserves a high rating
absolutely.
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Update: Vanguard is almost unusable while using the first published serials. After a approx. 15 minutes the plugin stops playing (like it's in time-limited demo mode). Second it randomly kills all audio with pops and clicks.
However after a second install using the second published serials....No problems at all! :o
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http://www.vengeance-sound.de/Filez/www.Vengeance-Forum.de%20Soundset%20Vol.2%20Vanguard.zip
Some free Vengeance patches for Vanguard.
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Update: Vanguard is almost unusable while using the first published serials. After a approx. 15 minutes the plugin stops playing (like it's in time-limited demo mode). Second it randomly kills all audio with pops and clicks.
However after a second install using the second published serials....No problems at all! :o
The same was happening to me. That's why I've put the second pairs of SN :)
http://www.vengeance-sound.de/Filez/www.Vengeance-Forum.de%20Soundset%20Vol.2%20Vanguard.zip
Some free Vengeance patches for Vanguard.
Thank You.
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out of curiousity
did u try the keygen that i posted? did it produce the working keys? or the non-working keys..
errr i thought i posted it.. looks like i just posted a screenshot of it
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...I think Native Instruments Absynth deserves a high rating in the sound quality, stability, and uniqueness category...
I'm totally agree with this too, but...
BUT:
I don't like the sound of Arturia, (CS 80, Moog) nor Virsyn (Tera, Cube). Fogged, no bright sound no good basses. I prefer the sound of NI Fm7, impOSCar, some reFX, or NI absynth.
This last one is in my opinion the best sounding of all VST instruments available for Mac Os 9, is a shame that it have a ugly and alien interface, and the patches always try to sound too "acid" to my taste.
Just an opinion.
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There seem to be a lot of interesting expansion packs (patches) for Vanguard.
http://www.vstcafe.com/2011/09/refx-vanguard-soundbanks-round-up-02.html
Don't know if those are compatible with our version. The official Refx expansions are:
V1 XP: Xenox Signature 1
V1 XP: Xenox Signature 2
V1 XP: Sounds of Revolution
V1 XP: Sounds of Revolution 2
V1 XP: Sounds of Revolution 3
V1 XP: Bigtone Signature
V1 XP: Bigtone Electronic Garden
V1 XP: Bigtone Silicon Frontiers
V1 XP: NextBeat Dance Basics
V1 XP: Vengeance Reloaded Vol.1
V1 XP: Vengeance Reloaded Vol.2
V1 XP: Vengeance Reloaded Vol.3
V1 XP: Synthation
V1 XP: Toxicity
V1 XP: Vengeance Part 2
Could be interesting to try... ;D
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i would love to see some of the demos u guys have seen for absynth because
its never been something that ive ever got excited about
"Show me" the sounds :D make me a believer
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Could be interesting to try... ;D
could be interesting to remove the space and then try these 11 and 113 more banks.
http://file storm.to/wg2q61yypitg.html
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files up to 60mb can be attached to a post
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(see,e mactron, this is another example where i would love to learn applescript. it would be great to have a tool which can cut long names and convert them to paths. so that
:DJ Gazza Boi Intrepid Soundwave Soundbank Vol 1.fxb
would be put in a folder and be renamed lik this:
:DJ Gazza Boi Intrepid Soundwave:Soundbank Vol 1.fxb)
to make it more useful on OS9 – or in general
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(see,e mactron, this is another example where i would love to learn applescript.
I have to admit that i don't use AppleScript. But it is easy to use, AFAIK.
May be you have to be a few minutes with it ...
LOL
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as you noticed in the other thread i got sidetracked from its speech possibilities
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filesonic has been gone for a very long time ? (since at least 2011) surely u must know?
plus its not a good idea to be pasting warez links in our forum that is indexed by google..
i think it would be best to remove these links
this is not how we operate here up to now and would probably be a good idea to keep that sort of thing
out of discussions here
this guy IIO has me on his "ignore list" because hes too cool for me...
so someone else better tell him this
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arjen´s kids can now dance daily 24/7 until christmas.
at christmas we then give him the presets for pro-52, so that he is ready for 2015.
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please stop posting warez links on the forum
like i said if u want to attach a small file to the post thast fine but no links to external file sharing sites please
this has already been discussed on the vault zone re: muso thread
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1556.msg6822#msg6822
it would be a much better technique to make a .sit file of these files and post that as an attachment
but no links to warez / filesharing sites please
one link is one thing..
but posting big long lists of warez type links on our board
is not what we have done here from the start
and its not the type of thing we should be doing now or in the future
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arjen´s kids can now dance daily 24/7 until christmas.
at christmas we then give him the presets for pro-52, so that he is ready for 2015.
LOL! They will. On behalf of my two boys....many thanks. -afro-
However most of the sites are blocked and untrusted. Would prefer .sit too.
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will merge it all into one later, there are probably many doubles.
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There's a bundle in my FTP. ;)
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i once build an app which is similar to what NI did with kore some years later. you could build banks from presets there and collect banks into a rudimentary form of library-on-disk, os that you were able to borwse though thousands of presets and listen to them just as with the usual midi librarians. you could also mix, merge and morph presets, rename them and compare different files to get rid of doubles. my main idea was that you can use it to compile yourself custom banks from presets out of other banks.
it is too idiosyncratic and only works for myself, but maybe it would be about time that i fix this finally and make it a proper app.
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can we please get these links removed from the site
half the links he posted dont even work first of all
we dont need to be indexed as a warez site by google and have out site blocked frm search results thanks to a few useless links
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i cant believe i still havent tried this vst;)
too busy trying to solve other mysteries !
i look forward to trying it on my RME PST card..
VERY soon
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You'll be amazed. Really sounds soooo fat. ;D
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interesting to note that refx.net or refx.com have now both been EXCLUDED from the wayback machine web.archive.org
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPhvuuWtNc0[/youtube]