Mac OS 9 Lives
Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) => Topic started by: Knezzen on May 05, 2014, 05:06:12 AM
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Since we decided to go with Mac OS 9.2.2 and Pro Tools 5.1.3 in the studio im looking for the last version of Waves TDM for Mac OS 9.
Is version 4 the last? Does anyone have it?
Thanks! :)
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Anyone?
Found these: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/waves-40-waves-au-shell-101 on Macintosh Garden, but they are OSX only.
They wont load in Pro Tools 5.1.3cs11 running on Mac OS 9. Too bad, because there seems to be a TDM version in the package.
There at least WAS a Waves 4.0 for Mac OS 9. Taken from the Waves site from 2003 (http://web.archive.org/web/20030729195553/http://waves.com/)
Features and Benefits:
- Apple OS X support and many of the new OS X generation of DAWs - ProTools 6, Cubase SX 1.0.5, Spark 2.5, and Peak 3.2.
- Continued OS 9 support
- Simpler authorization procedure
- Pricing scaled for your Waves setup
- Free version updates for a full year with the Waves Update Plan (WUP)
So if anyone has it, please share it ;)
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According to Waves 4.0 manual:
The Waves version 4.0 plug-ins support major Plug-In architectures and host
applications as follows :
MAC OS-9
WaveShell-DAE 4.0_9 - Provides compatibility with Digidesign systems from
Pro-Tools Free, through native power driven Pro-Tools LE and all the way to Pro-
Tools TDM using the MIX hardware generation or the new HD systems.
WaveShell-DAE integrates support for Digidesign’s 3 different plug-in types –
TDM, RTAS and AudioSuite. Waves users with Digidesign systems can read
important information in the DAE chapter.
WaveShell-VST 4.0_9 – Provides compatibility with some of the leading VST
host applications. Officially supported are –
Steinberg Cubase VST 5, NUENDO 1.5 | Emagic Logic Audio 4.7 | TC-Works
SPARK 2.0.| Bias Peak 2.62, V-Box 1.01, Deck 3 | Prosoniq – SonicWORX 2.
WaveShell-MAS 4.0_9 – Provides compatibility with MOTU – Digital Performer
2.72 and later and AudioDesk 1.02.
MAC OS-X
WaveShell-DAE 4.0_X - Provides compatibility with Digidesign systems from
Pro-Tools LE and all the way to Pro-Tools TDM using the MIX hardware
generation or HD systems.
WaveShell-DAE integrates support for Digidesign’s 3 different plug-in types –
TDM, RTAS and AudioSuite. Waves users with Digidesign systems can read
important information in the DAE chapter.
WaveShell-VST 4.0_X – Provides compatibility with some of the leading VST
host applications. Officially supported are –
Steinberg Cubase SX 1.05 | TC-Works SPARK 2.0.| Bias Peak 3, V-Box 1.01,
Deck 3.
So the first question is where to find Waves 4.0 for Mac Os 9. And the second question will be: How we can do with iLok authorization? :(
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There is a trial resetter for Waves 4.0 for Mac OS X at least.
Otherwise I could pretty much buy it if it wont work ;)
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Interestingly enough it seems like I have Waves 4.0 RTAS and TDM in a sit file on my system! Wonderful!
Will try it out now and keep everyone posted :)
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Typically I seem to have the Gold Bundle (all the Waves plugins), but they won't load since I don't have the file "WavesLib 4.0_9". Bleh.
Tried using the same file from the OSX version (since it's carbon, I figured it might work), but no. Renamed 4.0_X to 4.0_9, but to no use.
Guess I'm stuck with Waves 3 for a little while longer.
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surprised noones come forward with waves 4.0! ;D
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I have it. Does anyone still need it?
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I have it. Does anyone still need it?
i think u will get alot of responses in just a few hours;)
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Can upload it to disk. However, it's the trial version for 15 days. you have to reset the trial counter by parallel-loading into OS X and running special tool (Ilok trial reset) after trial expiration (every 15 days - above). I can also upload it. it also works magic for sonnox stuff (same eternal trial trick).
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same eternal trial trick
I'm all for tricks!! ;D That certainly would be interesting to try! The whole OS9-X crossover period sure can get confusing and I'm continually surprised when stuff like this pops up!!
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Can upload it to disk. However, it's the trial version for 15 days. you have to reset the trial counter by parallel-loading into OS X and running special tool (Ilok trial reset) after trial expiration (every 15 days - above). I can also upload it. it also works magic for sonnox stuff (same eternal trial trick).
The trial reset can be done in Mac Os 9 too, without the need of an Os X installation.
Using InterLok Engine v 5.0.5 it is really easy to reset the counter:
Delete the content of "HFSExtentTables" folder inside "TheVolumeSettingsFolder" (this folders and files are invisibles). And perform a Desktop rebuild.
This was discussed and tested here :
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2220.75
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Thanx for the tip!
So, should I upload?
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Yes... please upload/attachment the rest tool and I will put it permanently on the Download boards
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I have the complete Toast CD image of the last version for OS9 V4r4
I can't log into the ADrive anymore to upload it. It's 637 megs so posting it here on this thread probally won't work
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I will PM ya :)
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enabler is the man 8)
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There are a couple of versions of V4. I have 4.0.9 and 4.3.
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mediafire is a great site to use to upload such cd images,
this gives our admins + our users access to the files at the same time..
plus no need to wait for anyone to upload it
admins will backup whatever important images on our own fileserver for safe keeping.
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/pwlgmc921n036qd/waves4_demo_os9.sit
There was another distributive in the directory, I've included it too, but I don't remember if I installed it or not... Just try v4 installer first.
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I have it. Does anyone still need it?
ohh yes !!!!
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I have uploaded the following to MediaFire.
• Interlok Extensions Waves 10.4 (Carbon App).
• Interlock Reset Apple Script for (Mac OS 9 - 10.3)
• Wave 5 Installer (Includes Interlok Install) (OS X Only).
• Waves 5 Hack (Resets Demo Period) (OS X Only - Mac OS 10.3 and below).
• Oracle of Changes iching divination CD image (Mac OS 9).
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/sl5jtxb6cl7zc/Documents
Peace,
Steffan
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might as well post the link so people can decide. the admins dont have much time at hand.
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OK, I added the link to my previous post. Enjoy!
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Thanks a lot Spiritflight!
Do you know if it will work in Tiger ?
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Well, the Waves 5 Plugins will work if you have a dongle to authorize them.
The utility that resets the Waves 5 demo period will only work up to System 10.3. Waves will not work in demo mode on Mac OS 10.4 Tiger. Versions prior to Mac OS X 10.3 should be fine. I had to downgrade the OS on my laptop from 10.4 to 10.3. Once I did that, the Waves 5 Demo worked beautifully and the reset utility works too.
Peace
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I have wave 5.0 working in Tiger.
which version do you have exactly ?
I didn't know the 10.3 limitation.
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Hey Vespertine, I guess what you don't know won't hurt you... ha ha. Well that has been my experience any way. So you have waves working in ""Demo Mode"" on Tiger?
I did do an archive and install when I downgraded from OS from 10.4 to 10.3. It could very easily be the case that something in the old system was conflicting and keeping the Waves 4 or 5 Demo from resetting.
I just use this computer for recording. Is there any good reason to upgrade back to Tiger? Right now everything is working!
Peace,
Steffan
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Right now everything is working!
You know what they say... If it works, don't fix it!! ;D ;D
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was this waves 4.0 ever found???
someone has to have a copy!
c1 side chain compression?
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high geforceg4,
in waves 3.2 tdm c1 sidechain compression works perfectly. if that is what you're looking for.
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high geforceg4,
in waves 3.2 tdm c1 sidechain compression works perfectly. if that is what you're looking for.
hmm are u sure?
is it in TDM version only though?
does it work with waves 3.2 non-tdm version??
i thought the version 3.0 c1 compression had a bug preventing proper sidechaining from working
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hmm are u sure?
is it in TDM version only though?
does it work with waves 3.2 non-tdm version??
i thought the version 3.0 c1 compression had a bug preventing proper sidechaining from working
sorry my mistake - you're right - no real sidechain with c1 3.2tdm either - i thought i did it with c1 but it was macdsp compressorbank!
peace!
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I have the complete Toast CD image of the last version for OS9 V4r4
I can't log into the ADrive anymore to upload it. It's 637 megs so posting it here on this thread probally won't work
is this in the DLs?
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I am bumping this in an attempt to find an answer as to whether anything came of this??? ???
I came to the conclusion that this thread and its original question/request never got properly resolved. Several things were offered for download but to my knowledge the actual full version of Waves 4 was never produced.
Is resetting the trial version the only solution achieved on this matter?
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AFAIK, I use Waves TDM plugins in the eternal and everlasting trial reset mode. No probs. MacOs 9, PT 5.1.3.
I had already uploaded my archive with comments years ago (to ADrive as I remember).
Have never received any response regarding it.
Still curious...
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Thanks Sanek! You aren't Vulcan by chance? ::) ;D
I actually downloaded that, but have yet to load it up. I will try this ilok reset thing soon.
btw I don't have a TDM system, but it seems to include non-TDM plugins.
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No, not me 8)
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is v4.x on Waves CD Rom 4 or 5? do we have a collection of Waves Isos? i got a couple but cant seem to find Waves CDRom 1-4
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I believe I have the original Waves 4 install disk for (thinking)wave shell for TDM....
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WaveShell-VST 3.5 – Provides compatibility with some of the leading VST host applications. Officially supported are –
Prosoniq – SonicWORX 2.
WaveShell-VST 4.0_9 – Provides compatibility with some of the leading VST host applications. Officially supported are –
Prosoniq – SonicWORX 2.
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Here is the waves CD I have.
I most likely I judged Waves poorly.
We parted ways early.
In 99' when I got Waves it was too bulky for Yikes G4 350.
and I have never used it since.
(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1085.0;attach=10593;image)
Gave DieHard a copy of this when we visited in person.
Can upload if it help anyone.
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cd rom volume 4 is from 1998
anyone got cd rom volume 1-3?
i assume volume indicates version 1
a few v2 i got
i got a cdr that says waves installers 2000 but i guess thats too early too for v4
v4 would be what 2004ish?
http://archive.digidesign.com/support/readme/waves2.8.1readme.html
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Here it is waves v4.0r4 installer image:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t7jvi9xs9e3xp/Waves_4.0r4_OSX_%26_OS9
This image was made with Snow Leoard so you will need a modern OS to mount the image
then copy the files to a Mac OS9 flash drive or over a network to you old machine
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wow enabler your resources appear endless
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since its mentioned here
did we ever get BIAS Peak 2.62 TDM Edition for Mac OS 9 or is this a unicorn?
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we usually only have the latest version (and for OS9) of everything.
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i figures but isnt 2.62 the latest to have a tdm edition
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oh right, that could be.
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id like to print via direct io thru tdm plugins into it from another rig
ill try and track it down for here
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hard to believe that someone who was using TDM did not have waves plug-ins, waves was like 40% of the plug-in market in these days and basically why you bought protools. :P
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hard to believe that someone who was using TDM did not have waves plug-ins, waves was like 40% of the plug-in market in these days and basically why you bought protools. :P
let me guess you are german?
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Hi, I'm running Waves 5.0 C1 Compressor in demo mode in Logic Pro on my Mac G5 OSX 10.4.11 (no iLok required). Had to reinstall the C1 after replacing a faulty Mac HD, but after re-installing the C1 re-authorization is now impossible - Waves Tech Support can't help, demo is about to expire.
Any help will be much appreciated! :D Thank you. Best, Dave
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Had to reinstall the C1 after replacing a faulty Mac HD... after replacing a faulty Mac HD, but after re-installing the C1 re-authorization is now impossible
I thought that era was iLok ?
Was the original authorization a "challenge" then "response" ?
The OSX Version of the ASR would most likely have preserved it on the old HD :(
Try the "freezer" hard drive trick and clone it
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please explain the freezer hd trick and what to clone?
im getting a stash of audio hdds pro tools 4.3 times and i need to clone them "properly"
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About 30 to 40% of the time, put a "bad" hard drive in the freezer (for about 45 min) and if you continue to put ice packs on it as it is connected to the computer you can usually clone it, the cold contracts the metal and thus if it's a motor spin up issue (and some other issues)... these guys say it no longer works...
https://www.pcworld.com/article/419677/that-old-freezer-trick-to-save-a-hard-drive-doesnt-work-anymore.html
But I have taken modern (spinning) drives and have had success about 3 out of 10, at least enough to get most of the data.
Also, this video is pretty much the exact method we use here if we hear an "attempted spin up" and we remove the cover...
[youtube]F5Y7BniaRXg&t=477s[/youtube]
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Thanks DieHard.
>I thought that era was iLok ?
Waves switched to the iLok hardware key shortly after I bought the Waves 5.0 C1 compressor in 2008.
>Was the original authorization a "challenge" then "response" ?
Yes. I still have the challenge code, but Waves Tech Support say they're unable to generate a response as they've abandoned the PACE authorization system used in 2008 and have no other means to authorize the software.
The OSX Version of the ASR would most likely have preserved it on the old HD :(
>What does 'ASR' mean please, and where would I look for it? Actually I can still read a bunch of Waves files from the old faulty HD, which we managed to transfer and then successfully re-install the C1. Sadly, it timed out after 14 days :{
Try the "freezer" hard drive trick and clone it
>Good tip, thanks!
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ASR is the command-line Apple Software Restore tool.
[blockquote]DESCRIPTION
asr efficiently copies disk images onto volumes, either directly or via a
multicast network stream. asr can also accurately clone volumes without
the use of an intermediate disk image.[/blockquote]
About 30 to 40% of the time, put a "bad" hard drive in the freezer (for about 45 min) and if you continue to put ice packs on it as it is connected to the computer you can usually clone it, the cold contracts the metal and thus if it's a motor spin up issue (and some other issues)... these guys say it no longer works...
But I have taken modern (spinning) drives and have had success about 3 out of 10, at least enough to get most of the data.
I think for a long time, the drives were designed so that the heads "parked" on the surface, which led to the problem of stiction (the platters can't spin if the heads are sticking to them). Freezing was a way to un-stick the heads (also tapping with a mallet). On newer drives I've seen inside there is a plastic ramp that loads/unloads the heads and they don't touch the surface. Sometimes it's this plastic ramp that is sticky or bent preventing head load (but the platters still spin up).
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anyone know if the TDM Transform bundle released Dec 2003 will run on Pro Tools III Nubus DSP farm cards?
its compatible with Mix cards and os 9
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we usually only have the latest version (and for OS9) of everything.
well Transform TDM or the Transform Native Bundle released in 2003/12 was compatible with Mix and OS 9, and we aint got it here, yet...
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The Transform bundle plugins are included in the installer that is posted.
No need for a separate installer.
Note:
Not every waves plugin supported TDM
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.waves.com/download/* (https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.waves.com/download/*)
then enter os9 to narrow down the results
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Wow! Thanks! :)
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Here is the waves CD I have.
I most likely I judged Waves poorly.
We parted ways early.
In 99' when I got Waves it was too bulky for Yikes G4 350.
and I have never used it since.
(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1085.0;attach=10593;image)
Gave DieHard a copy of this when we visited in person.
Can upload if it help anyone.
i would love to help get all wave cds online here, i got a few but not all
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i would love to help get all wave cds online here, i got a few but not all
What's holding you back?
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then enter os9 to narrow down the results
only very recently i also "discovered" those tabs such as "URLs" - and now i using this every second time i am visiting waybackmachine.
it is of great help to quickly find binaries and/or whether multiple download links on a page are dead or work.
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i'd love to be able to display all fotos of a website throughout its history at once --- sadly im unaware of how to navigate there
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the "issue" with waybackmachine is that once you have closed the history toolbar on top, you can not open it again to switch to another version.
and then there is that inline version of the toolbar, which you get when you start at the startpage:
go to https://web.archive.org/ and enter "http://waves.com/"
from here you can now see and open all existing versions of an adress or url.
but to open a version in a new tab - without loosing the overview page, that is - you need to control-doubleclick in the calendar. (everything else will not work in firefox windows here)