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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Audio & MIDI Hardware => Topic started by: supernova777 on November 14, 2013, 11:27:47 PM

Title: SCSI -> firewire adapters? do they work for connecting samplers to firewire bus?
Post by: supernova777 on November 14, 2013, 11:27:47 PM
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3632202

http://tinyurl.com/l7u2gwo

http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/transferring-files-between-scsi-based-sampler-firewire-mac/

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/hardware-software/hardware/sequencers-samplers-hardware/does-anybody-use-usb-firewire-scsi-connection-mpc-2000xl-119305/

http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/FR1SX.html

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just interested to know from anyone whos got experience, whether or not these actually work for connecting old akai, emu, ensoniq samplers etc
Title: Re: SCSI -> firewire adapters? do they work for connecting samplers to firewire bus?
Post by: supernova777 on November 14, 2013, 11:31:19 PM
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/102225-do-scsi-usb-firewire-adapters-work-samplers.html

seems that noone knows about this.. its a mystery.. hopefully someone will come along and find this site one day and shed some light on the topic!
Title: Re: SCSI -> firewire adapters? do they work for connecting samplers to firewire bus?
Post by: supernova777 on November 14, 2013, 11:42:05 PM
http://www.emusonacid.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1749
some posts on the subject on this uk site dedicated to emu hardware samplers...
even here you have a difference of opinion on the topic!!
ranging from:

"The general concensus is that the USB to SCSI converters simply do not work with samplers. "
---to---
"connect the cable to your mac, open bias peak, go to the menu "sampler" and choose "emu". that's it. no drivers, no hustle.  just load your sample and have fun"
Title: Re: SCSI -> firewire adapters? do they work for connecting samplers to firewire bus?
Post by: supernova777 on November 14, 2013, 11:49:49 PM
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=1348757

here im finding people suggesting + leaning hard towards using
a dual card reader approach...

is this why programs like recycle v2.0 were stopped dead in their tracks?
im trying to understand why its so hard to transmit data between a computer + a sampler
and why ive read so many people have technical problems doing so
and whats the best sampler / data xfer method / computer combo
so i dont get stuck with an incompatible combination!!!!
Title: Re: SCSI -> firewire adapters? do they work for connecting samplers to firewire bus?
Post by: English_Mac on March 19, 2014, 01:19:25 AM
 8) out of everything I've tried a 68k Mac always seems to work for me.
Title: Re: SCSI -> firewire adapters? do they work for connecting samplers to firewire bus?
Post by: ioguie on May 09, 2015, 08:53:33 AM
is this why programs like recycle v2.0 were stopped dead in their tracks?
im trying to understand why its so hard to transmit data between a computer + a sampler
and why ive read so many people have technical problems doing so
and whats the best sampler / data xfer method / computer combo
so i dont get stuck with an incompatible combination!!!!

You want onboard SCSI.  SCSI -> Firewire converters like Ratoc FR1SX do not work because the computer accesses them via Firewire, not SCSI.

I have tried using a Ratoc Cardbus SCSI adapter (CB31U or CB32U) but its drivers are not very good.  Maybe the CB31Pismo would have been better.  Still, it doesn't work with any of the sampler transfer apps I want to use.

I have used Recycle 1.x with the Mac's onboard SCSI and it works great with my Roland S-760.  Same with Samplifier from Doug Wyatt.  And Akai's MESA.  All work on OS 8.6/9.x with onboard SCSI.  None were happy with the Cardbus adapter, and none work with FR1SX because it is not a true "SCSI" device.  The FR1SX works great to connect a Jaz drive to any Mac (even OS X 10.9) via Firewire.

If you have an Adaptec PCI card in a G3/G4 tower, it may also work, as Adaptec's drivers are very good.  But I always had the best luck with Apple's built-in ("MESH") SCSI.