Unsuccessful attempts to setup M Audio Delta 44 in OS9

[ssp3]

Is your CD/DVD drive working as it should?
Can you boot your Mac from external drive?

[GaryN]

On the M-Audio support page, the very last ASIO driver for the 44 is labeled:

M-Audio Delta 3_1_0 (1011a)

Is that the one you have? If not, I've attached it here. Try it. Make sure to burn some incense first…

[blaylok]

Hi Gary,

Thanks for posting both those M audio Delta driver's, I will give them both a try and see how I go.

[blaylok]

Hi ssp3,

I am able to boot from a usb stick, I haven't tried booting from an external drive.

The CD/DVD (Pioneer) appears to be working OK i am able to burn cd's and then access and read from them on the Mac.

[ssp3]

I am able to boot from a usb stick, I haven't tried booting from an external drive.

Try the method I described here with ASD/AHT images:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6742.msg51354.html

[blaylok]

 Just tried the method ssp3, unfortunately won't boot Apple Hardware Test that way either or let me select it as a boot option in start-up disk.

I used a 40gb ide/ata drive formatted it to Apple hda extended, then followed your instructions regarding booted under Osx. I was able to write Apple Hardware Test to the drive without issues. (Also used a generic usb to sata/ide adapter)

I tried booting it while still plugged into the usb adapter and then plugged into the Mac on the ata bus. Same result both times. Unplugged all but the said 40gb on the ata bus and boot gives OS9 folder/question mark.

[blaylok]

Apple hfs extended not hda sorry

[ssp3]

Have you tried removing battery, resetting CUDA switch, installing battery? Is battery OK? 3,6 Volts?

Try Mac Test Pro:
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-mactest-pro

Try either 'All in one' or any of the individual CD images.
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-hardware-test-powermac-g4

A bit of info:
https://boards.rossmanngroup.com/threads/apple-asd-reference-list.35818/

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Power Mac G4 (1999 Mid PCI Graphics) MTP G4 (Juli 2000)
Power Mac G4 (2000 Mid Cube) MTP G4 (2002)
Power Mac G4 (2000 Mid Gigabit Ethernet) MTP G4 (2002)
Power Mac G4 (2001 Early Digital Audio) MTP G4 (2002)
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Power Mac G4 (2002 Early QuickSilver) MTP G4 (2002)
Power Mac G4 (2002 Mid Mirrored Drive Doors) 2.1.5
Power Mac G4 (2002 Mid Quicksilver ED) 2.1.5
Power Mac G4 (2003 Early FW 800) 2.1.5

[blaylok]

You beat me to it ssp3....

I just tried the AIO

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-hardware-test-powermac-g4

and....Success!  Finally got the Apple Hardware Test Running

I am currently testing now I will report back as to the results.

Thanks ssp3 (and others) for your help

The battery is actually DOA - it is on the replacement asap list - could this be my Apple Hardware Test won't run off cdrom issue?

Could this also be my no sound on the Delta 44 issue as well? (Surely not)

[blaylok]

Apple Hardware Test Power Mac Version 2.2.5

Extended Test Results

Airport                    No device found
Logic Board.          Passed
Mass Storage.       Passed
Memory.                 Passed
Modem.                  Device found
Video RAM.            Passed

The Extended Test has been completed and no hardware problems have been detected.

So it would seem that all is good with the Hardware in my Quicksilver 867 Mhz

Tomorrow I will remove all the Installed thus far M Audio Delta stuff (driver's, delta panel etc.) and start from scratch again with the driver's Gary posted above.

[ssp3]

Get a fresh battery. Some Macs have strange dependency on it.
IIRC, my Digital Audio G4, with all PCI slots stuffed (FDDI optic network card, Adaptec U2W SCSI and 2x Sonic DAW cards) produced black screen and refused to boot with dead battery.

[Protools5LEGuy]

My G3 B&W acts weird/cannot boot without the battery.
I couldnt set a system without certified (expensive) Mac Ram. 66% of PC RAM I had didntt worked.

Once I had those 2 variables out, and a sonnet tempo 66 I could enjoy the Mac experience o. The blue G3.

A much better experience (Or being teached I guess) was the G4 Digital Audio

[blaylok]

Another unsuccessful attempt at getting sound out of the Delta 44 today, this time I tried with the two different driver's that Gary posted just above - unfortunately same result as before - I can see audio activity in the Delta control panel but still no actual sound at the outputs.

I have a new battery on order it due to arrive on Monday I will give it another try with a fresh battery

[blaylok]

Update:

Apologies for the delay in posting back here...

So, I got a new PRAM battery installed it then started from scratch with the Delta 44 installation - unfortunately same result, i.e. no sound at the outputs

I gave up for a little bit then managed to find myself a second-hand Edirol UA-20 and the OS9 drivers from Macintosh garden.....

Success!!!  - sound at the outputs, plus midi in & out

Finally I have an ASIO sound device working on my Quicksilver! 

- not sure why the Delta 44 never worked for me on the Quicksilver when the model has worked fine for others - the Delta 44 can go back to one of my Windows boxes.

Anyway, a big thank you to all here for the time, effort (and typing), you all put into helping me troubleshoot my issue.

Thanks heaps guys 

best regards,

blaylok