really surprised to get no responses to this post.... but then again i received the same "blaring silence" when i was speaking about using *NAS BSD to serve files to macos9/X ppc machines via Netatalk/AFP .. a topic i thought would blow up + catch fire with many of the "enthusiasts" here, so SMH... *shrug*

i would think theres alot more retro enthusiasts that would be interested in finding a solution to using old computers on the modern web now that the moron web programmers of 2020 have "taken the internet away" by forcing the whole entire web to be encrypted..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjZdKtv9ak

heres a video where a guys got an old win9x machine browsing the net by introducing a raspberry pi as a proxy server

surely theres other "solutions"
 
would like to have a CONVERSATION on this topic with some other INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEINGS if there are ANY LEFT OUT THERE
https://www.reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/wzbz0j/the_power_of_webone_http_proxy_fills_you_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/wzbz0j/the_power_of_webone_http_proxy_fills_you_with/

i know there must be other solutions lurking in the shadows... lets shine the light on how to bring back our vintage pcs + macs to the WORLD WIDE WEB that was BUILT BY THEM

http://68k.news/ is another "manifested idea" by creating basic retro-compatible webpage linking to "inaccessible modern content"

really the TLS/SSL cypher bullshit is really the COPORATIONS takin control of our "free internet" (err what we used to call it back in the early 2000s anyway) things will just get more controlled + big brother'ed as long as people just let the stupid corporations dictate the way things should be on the WWW. its a fucking shame really.

The issue probably has to do with resource (fork?) compression/decompression. This feature was (for no good reason?) removed in 9.1. There's quite a list of software that got affected by this, such as After Dark, and possibly also Power MachTen, although the former got a patch fix for it, and the latter even an official patch fix.

If you can bring this ability back to 9.1, and thus also 9.2, 9.2.1, and 9.2.2, it might fix the problem entirely, and also fix a bunch of other software.

I don't think it has anything to do with the "ROM" file: if you install Mac OS 9.2.2 on an Old World ROM machine (using i.e. OS9Helper), you will most likely encounter the exact same issues.

Also, when you ask for "version 9.1 of the ROM", do you mean a ROM file included with some release of Mac OS 9.1, or a ROM file whose version is "9.1"?

i don't think it's about resource (fork) compression, because i have 9.1 running on my pismo and hellcats runs just fine after removing some unneeded monitors extension or something (i can't recall but i can dig it up).


by '9.1 ROM' i meant the ROM file included with mac OS 9.1, not a spoofed version. i tried copying my 'Mac OS ROM' over from my Pismo and my ver 1 power mac G4 but it resulted in an error after the happy mac.

Being an avid Hellcats fan since the 90's (perhaps THE essential 90's Mac game for me personally :-) ) I've been following your thread, hoping you could find a solution. (note to myself: My Pismo runs 9.0.4 so I need to check if it runs on there.)

Have the sources for Hellcats ever been showing up somewhere? Has anyone tried to contact Eric Parker about it? Taking the sources and recompiling the game might be the easier way than getting a 9.1 ROM working on the Mini? (though that would be an interesting project and one I'd love to see!)

i distinctly remember trying to contact the original author a few years ago but i only got undeliverable mail messages so i gave up. also i'm really not a developer, i can only use MPW with tutorials and examples (i'm a UNIX sysadmin by trade), so i thought it would be easier to replicate the environment where hellcats runs properly. i even thought of compiling mini vmac's macII version for OS 9 so i can run it in a VM and be done with it, but i had to abandon that because the mini vmac author said OS 9 as a host is no longer supported in the build system..

Very cool!

Wish more knowledgable folks would do this - buying up broken machines, fixing them up and releasing them out into the wild again. Thumbs up!

I hope that the OP will become a major donor when it comes to covering Knezzen's expenses to run this place.

Very cool!

Wish more knowledgable folks would do this - buying up broken machines, fixing them up and releasing them out into the wild again. Thumbs up!

Agreed!

Or rather... (wait for it...)

"Like"