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Storage Technologies / Re: PowerMac G4 Sawtooth - SATA Drives install
« Last post by macStuff on Today at 04:38:49 PM »
unfortunately ATI Radeon 9800 Pro is not a good choice for working in os9 because of the undesired "roll up" effect that it does when moving windows..

it is the ideal card for an panther tiger or leopard install. but not for os9;
due to lack of proper driver support.

also the sil3112 card that was flashed will not be able to boot the sawtooth into os9;
you need different hardware for an os9 machine, u might aswell skip os9 and just install tiger osx
or find the proper components (AGP video card + Sata150 pci card) that are properly mac os 9 compatible

close but no cigar
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Community Marketplace / WTB NewerTech G4 7448 2.0 GHz or 1.8 GHz upgrade
« Last post by wnlewis on Today at 11:19:31 AM »
I would like to buy a NewerTech G4 7448 2.0 GHz upgrade. Let me know if you have one and your price. If any software/manual came with it, I would need that too. Thanks, wnlewis
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Storage Technologies / Re: PowerMac G4 Sawtooth - SATA Drives install
« Last post by reader50 on Today at 11:13:33 AM »
Yes, you can do it that way. Bear in mine you'll end up wanting an OS9 folder on your Tiger disk too, for Classic. But you can add that later. However, if you do it this way, the OSX disk will not be bootable in 9. I'm not sure your OS9 install will even be able to see that drive. Adding the OS9 drivers to that HD after the fact would require either a reformat, or a 3rd party utility such as iPartition.

Suggestion: partition the Tiger disk into two partitions, the 2nd one being a small one for Leopard. That would allow you to use Time Machine. You could boot into Leopard occasionally, and back up all three volumes. Makes restoring things much easier in the future, should bad luck strike.

For your Tiger install, do you have an actual Tiger install CD, or a working image to restore from? If you have an install CD, you can use Disk Utility to partition / format both drives with OS9 drivers, before installing anything.
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Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware / Re: PowerBook6,8
« Last post by darthnVader on Today at 09:19:45 AM »
The Apple CD/DVD Extension seems to be incompatible with this PowerBook.

Also, the Apple Monitor Extension.

Ethernet does work, but I've been unable to use a web browser as the Text Encoder Extension is not loading for some reason.

It's cool tho, OS 9.2.2 is lighting fast on this 1.5Ghz G4. 8)
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Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware / Re: PowerBook6,8
« Last post by darthnVader on Today at 06:36:53 AM »
Got the USB( external ) mouse working ;D

It seems placing the ASP into the Startup Items gets the external USB mouse working. Not sure if it's just a bug that is a biproduct of the patches ELN used for USB on the Mini, or ASP has some special  magic to it.

I'll try and add a different App to the StartUp Items and see if just any App works.........

ELN, what changes do I need to make to disable the "Logging/Debug" window you enabled?

It's not really needed anymore, and it's preventing the Extension manager from loading early in the boot process. It just makes it a lot easier to debug what extension need to be disabled and what don't.

I know the Apple Audio Extension has to be disabled, system hangs if it's not. No shock here, but unlike the iBook6,7 you do not have to add " screamer" to the " compatible" property to boot. However the result it the same, no sound.

The sound devices on the iBook6,7/Powerbook6,8 are going to be troublesome. I've been unable to get them to work even under Linux. Debian as dropped 32bit PPC, because they just were not getting anyone to test or debug. So they may have never got sound to work on these devices, or I just haven't found how to enable it. It only really matters because if it did work, we could look at the linux sources and have something to go by to tell us how we maybe able to get sound working.

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Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware / Re: PowerBook6,8
« Last post by darthnVader on Today at 05:55:38 AM »
I got the System booted to the Finder, but I have no mouse support.

I can use the keyboard however, I can tab around and use the Command+Keys to open Finder windows and such.

Not sure why I can't get the mouse to work with a USB mouse, I wasn't really expecting the TracPad to work.

Some Extension or Control Panel is not letting the Finder launch, but it's hard to figure the correct one to disable because I can't get to the Extension Manager with ELN's debug window enabled, doesn't read the spacebar, or shift key early in the boot process.

I think I have all the extension I need for USBHID, but my USB Mouse still doesn't work.

I can't boot without ELN's latest ROM from the Mini thread, and the Boot 3 resource added to the System suitcase.

I'm not sure what changes were made to get USB working on the Mini, but they maybe conflicting with USB on the PB6,8.

ELN, any comment on what workarounds you used for USB?

It's odd the the Keyboard works, as it's also USB, but these PB's have a virtual ADB, and the KB/M show up in the device tree under ADB, so the system maybe picking up the KB in ADB mode, allowing it to work.
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Storage Technologies / Re: PowerMac G4 Sawtooth - SATA Drives install
« Last post by Smack2k on Today at 03:47:11 AM »
I am running from an El Capitan OS X, so is there another way I can get the OS 9 Drivers onto the drive?  I dont have any older versions of OS X available to me.

My goal with the G4 is to have one drive running OS X Tiger and one drive running OS 9.  That being said, could I install the Tiger Drive first, get it running and then partition / format the other drive to prepare it for OS 9?

Thanks for the format / partition info, I will use that when I go to get the drive for OS 9 ready.
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Mac OS 9 on Unsupported Hardware / Re: PowerBook6,8
« Last post by darthnVader on Today at 03:44:01 AM »
I strongly suggest starting to patch your own version of the boot 3 resource.

Check out the boot3 branch of https://github.com/elliotnunn/mac-rom, but follow the instructions in the master branch README to set file types. Then use https://github.com/elliotnunn/empw to build:
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empw EasyBuildBoot3
The 68k source for boot 3 is in OS/StartMgr/Boot3.a, and the output in BuildResults/RISC/Rsrc/Gibbly.rsrc.

Let me know if you have any trouble!

Thanks, ELN, the boot 3 resource does seem to be the key to getting as far as I'm getting, to the desktop, but no Finder launch.

I'm just not sure what the trouble is, it seems to be failing after the patch of the component manager. I'm not sure if that is the stage that failed, or what the next stage should be. I get the clock, and the Battery in the menu bar, maybe I'm having trouble mounting the disks?

I'm really hoping it's not a problem with the ATA drivers, like the trouble with the Xserve.

I'll look at the sources to the boot 3 resource and see if I can make anything of it, but I'm just not sure where to start making changes.
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DAW - PowerPC OSX-based Applications / Re: Look for Pro Tools 6.4.1 TDM
« Last post by Syn-Fi on Today at 02:42:18 AM »
hi Mr Happy,
yes plugged in and switched on.

I'm using the mix core plus interface via Core Audio for Bias Peak. Passes all digitests too apart from TDM link - because i only have the one card in there at present.

Do i need to install a certain version of DAE?
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DAW - PowerPC OSX-based Applications / Re: Look for Pro Tools 6.4.1 TDM
« Last post by mrhappy on February 18, 2018, 07:49:02 PM »

 all i get on launch is looking for digidesign h/w


Do you have an interface plugged into your mix core card?
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