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Title: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on April 13, 2015, 07:53:47 PM

http://www.ebay.es/itm/GAINWARD-GeForce-4-TI-4600-128MB-GS-AGP-Video-card-/261848503377?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:ES:3160 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/GAINWARD-GeForce-4-TI-4600-128MB-GS-AGP-Video-card-/261848503377?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:ES:3160)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTI4WDE2MDA=/z/20AAAOSw34FVGx1c/$_57.JPG)

Is that the golden model? I mean the easy one to convert to OS9. Or the one that MacTron tried and wouldn't go? This one is 2 DVI

On mac elite page:
http://themacelite.wikidot.com/asus-v8460 (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/asus-v8460)

(http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/foto/b/3/0/742000/f_12354369.jpg)

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on April 13, 2015, 07:57:12 PM

To my eyes, they are the same. The Gainward has some extra SiliconImage chips, I guess for the DVI

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: supernova777 on April 13, 2015, 10:36:38 PM

im not sure if it can achieve accelleration but if its a geforce 4 ti .. it should work.
but it would need to be flashed with a rom.. same as diehard did
unless its a mac edition

its a sweet ass card either way
the gaindward 7800gs is the absolute fastest card for powermac g4's (accel with X only)
http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/Resources/topshotgainward5a.jpeg

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: MacTron on April 30, 2015, 10:03:09 AM

I have the Gainward GeForce4 TI 4600 128MB video card already in my hands (the one with two DVI outputs).
I have made a original Gainward ROM backup, and when I have extracted the data from it ( Device ID settings and Timings Table) to make a custom Mac ROM for it I had a big surprise:

The data are the same on the original Mac nVidia ti 4600, so no rom editing is needed!
..so *in theory* flashing the original Mac Ti4600 rom in to this Gainward should make it work ...
Let see what happens ... :-X

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: supernova777 on April 30, 2015, 10:33:03 AM

i would bet money its going to work  8)
and it will be a great thing to see after the last one didnt work out!!!  ;D

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: MacTron on April 30, 2015, 12:17:08 PM

It didn't work.  :'(

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: supernova777 on April 30, 2015, 12:28:41 PM

no way.. wtf  >:(

are u sure its not because of the machine u are flashing it with..
like i said -- when i first tried to flash my radeon 9800 pro.. i was about to throw the card in the garbage - and then i tried to flash it in a different pc and it worked.. and its been in my g5 ever since working flawless

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: MacTron on April 30, 2015, 02:23:17 PM

Quote from: chrisNova777 on April 30, 2015, 12:28:41 PM

are u sure its not because of the machine u are flashing it with..

Yes, may be ...
... but i will leave this matter for a long while ...
I'm really disappointed.

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: supernova777 on April 30, 2015, 03:19:33 PM

me too ;(
how could it be .. when the roms were identical? how is that even possible
i asked jerry to check his gpu chip to see if its the same..
there must be a way to make it work
something must be wrong here

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on April 30, 2015, 03:54:32 PM

Quote from: chrisNova777 on April 30, 2015, 03:19:33 PM

me too ;(
how could it be .. when the roms were identical? how is that even possible
i asked jerry to check his gpu chip to see if its the same..
there must be a way to make it work
something must be wrong here

There has to be a ridiculously small resistor blocking it to be PC. Dawn. We have to study the  original Mac GF4 card if it is identical.

Title: Re: GAINWARD GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB
Post by: supernova777 on April 30, 2015, 04:08:37 PM

thats one possibility.. but im starting to think its because of the motherboard that hes using to flash with...

like ive said a few times now.. i had problems with one board. the flash would work but the card didnt work.. then i flashed in another pc motherboard.. and it just worked.. and i thought the same as him.. that the card couldnt be flashed and i almost threw it out... but it wasnt the card or the rom but the motherboard that i tried to flash it with..

it may have been because this board i originally tried with was only an AGP 1x or 2x motherboard... maybe u need a pc motherboard that is 4x/8x agp maybe for it to flash correctly


(http://pcbonto.hu/portal/static/upload_apro/2009-10-02/742641_orig0.jpg)
the first board i tried to flash with: Abit BE6 (agp 2x i thnk) <- flash was successful, but card did not work
production date of mb: 1999

(http://support.moonpoint.com/info/pc/motherboard/asus/P5PE-VM/P5PE-VM.jpg)
the 2nd board i flashed it with: Asus P5PE-VM (agp 8x) <-- flash was successfull first try worked in the powermac g5
production date of mb: 2006

take note of the notch location in the agp slot on the boards

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2429.0;attach=2456;image)

according to the notch is the power supplied to the graphics card..
either 3.3v or 1.5v
perhaps this is the "key"??

mactron - which voltage is the slot on the pc board u are trying to flash it with?

apparently i had success with the 1.5v slot and not the 3.3v