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Classic Mac OS Hardware => Storage => Topic started by: macStuff on May 26, 2019, 01:20:39 AM

Title: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: macStuff on May 26, 2019, 01:20:39 AM
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64bit cards available from sonnet circa 2007:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/computercards/index.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/tempo_sata_x4p.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/tempo_sata_x4i.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/tempo_serial_ata.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/allegro800.html

(https://web.archive.org/web/20071214004059im_/http://sonnettech.com/product/images/Tsatax4i.jpg)

does anyone have this card?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: refinery on May 26, 2019, 02:24:11 PM
i have the X8P which I believe is from the same family

https://barefeats.com/hard45.html
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: macStuff on May 27, 2019, 05:33:52 AM
i have the X8P which I believe is from the same family

https://barefeats.com/hard45.html

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https://web.archive.org/web/20050320052113/http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo-x_esata8.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20050530000032/http://www.sonnettech.com/publicfiles/pdfs/pdf_datasheets/tempo-x_esata8_datasheet.pdf
(https://web.archive.org/web/20050830022957im_/http://www.sonnettech.com/imgs/imgs_prods/prodpics_lrg/tsata-x8_lrg.jpg)
      64-bit, 133MHz PCI-X Serial ATA host controller
      Works in any PCI-X or PCI slot in the listed compatible computers*
      8 external ports featuring eSATA connectors
      48-bit LBA support for drives with a capacity larger than 137 GB
      Spread Spectrum Clocking for lower EMI emissions
      No drivers to install; plug and play installation
      Supports Mac OS X’s built-in RAID 0 (striping) and RAID 1 (mirroring) functions
      Upgradable firmware to enable future enhancements

wow i forgot about that one
have u tested it under os9? obviously its not bootable in os 9; is it recognized?
the datasheet doesnt say which chipset its using

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1924.0;attach=1308;image)
if this pic is the same card; it looks like its using a marvell chipset
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: macStuff on May 27, 2019, 06:10:17 AM
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http://www.sonnettech.com/support/kb/kb.php?cat=362&expand=_a2_a3_b220_b459_b42_b27_b44_b544&action=b384
How can I distinguish between the earlier Tempo-X eSATA (4+4 and 8e) products supporting 3 Gigabit/sec speeds and the older cards that support 1.5 Gigabit/sec speeds?
May-07-09
You can check your Macintosh System Profile. When you select the installed eSATA card, the Device ID will show either "0x6081" or "0x5081".
The 3 Gigabit/second eSATA cards use the Marvell chip 88SX6081.
The 1.5 Gigabit/second eSATA cards use the Marvell chip 88SX5081.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: refinery on May 27, 2019, 10:00:25 PM
i have the later SATA II one, with the 88SX6081. Ive honestly never tried it in an OS9 mac, but it worked fine for years in my old G5 XServe.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: macStuff on May 27, 2019, 11:39:09 PM
do you have any new world g3/g4's?
AGP or B+W?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: refinery on May 28, 2019, 01:44:25 AM
do you have any new world g3/g4's?
AGP or B+W?

yeah i have a DP500 and a MDD. the DP500 currently only has X, and the MDD is crammed full of junk (that's a story for another time) so I dont really want to go tearing stuff out of that one. fear not however, I do have a 40gb SSD i can throw in the DP and test out with 9. give me a day or two to get that done.
while i do that, are we aware of any extensions that were associated with sonnet cards in 9? or was it just the typical thing of they just show up as SCSI adapters?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: macStuff on May 28, 2019, 03:20:51 AM
http://www.sonnettech.com/publicfiles/pdfs/pdf_datasheets/tsata_x4i_datasheet.pdf
datasheet

would be great if i had moderator status over the storage section so i could split this topic
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: (S)ATAman on December 09, 2019, 05:22:46 AM
It has Marvell chipset as it was mentioned before it correctly.
Sonnet never wrote a SIM (SCSI Interface Module) for MacOS 7 - 8 - 9.
"SIM" is the nickname of the run-time hardware-bound device driver for the "classic" MacOS.

The architecture can be simplified to something like Open Firmware ---> SIM ---> SCSI Mass Storage Driver (the later resided in a separate partition and is installed by Disk Utility and it's look-alikes like LaCie, etc.). Open Firmmare and the SIM are usually in ROM, SCSI Mass Storage Driver on the disk in either a partition (bootable) or as an extension.
It is possible to have even SIM as an extension, this is how it is developed. We put SIM in the ROM usually in final phase of the development, before that on the development machine it is just an extension.

In last two and a half decades SIM was written by:

- Initio
- ATTO
- Advansys (probably same as Initio)
- ACard
- Myself

Before that John B. with Ada J. wrote one for FWB. That's the "long" list. :(

Sonnet simply had no opportunity and later there was no market for MacOS 9.x anymore which would justify the efforts.
Otherwise their engineer was more, than capable to make out a better copy than anyone above, myself included.

If we reduce the search for ATA or SATA cards only the list will be reduced to ACard and myself.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo X4i
Post by: smilesdavis on December 26, 2022, 03:38:21 AM
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64bit cards available from sonnet circa 2007:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/computercards/index.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/tempo_sata_x4p.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/tempo_sata_x4i.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/tempo_serial_ata.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20071218132447/http://sonnettech.com/product/allegro800.html

(https://web.archive.org/web/20071214004059im_/http://sonnettech.com/product/images/Tsatax4i.jpg)

does anyone have this card?

yes i just bought 3x X4i in hopes that it will run on my g4 under os9