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SabithaSuki

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So the title summarises my dilemma. I am looking for a 15' touch screen I can use with OS 9 and 10.5 for my Mac Mini G4 inside of a iMac G3 Case mod.

I want to know if such a thing exists, and how can it be done, or if I am better off biting the bullet and getting a generic 15 inch LCD for the mod instead.

I heard eLo had drivers for certain devices, but I can't find them anywhere out on the open web, so I'm already off to a rocky start.
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 05:42:21 PM »

Looks like oldest / earliest, available from eLo would be their Legacy | MultiTouch Driver for MacOS 10.6 thru 10.12.So maybe that’s a no-go. Sorry, no help.

https://www.elotouch.com/support/downloads#/category/346LYmeuAUEI4Qa0sSyiSa/os/5saTtClhYscKqi28scSqss

So you’re trying to place a screen in / on an iMac G3 case (with a G4 Mac mini inside)?
Interesting idea. ;) Happy hunting.

All touch screens that I saw during a very limited, quick search, used newer connections like USB-C.
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 11:22:18 PM »

IIRC there is a specific iMac G3 2nd party or 3rd party model which did precisely that, at least for OS 9. OS X 10.5 does not boot on G3s AFAIK, though, but 10.4 does.

I forgot their names and stuff, though. But it is a thing. And it is rare IIRC.

There was also a different vendor that did provide such an add-on. Again, I forgot where I saw it, but I think it was YouTube, or the Macintosh Garden. Or was it here?
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Panel?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2024, 03:07:41 PM »

Alas, Adam Rosen is no more (2019). And the Vintage Mac Museum itself was liquidated.
However, there may be some possibly related info on this page:

https://vintagemacmuseum.com/the-gemini-ibook-a-mac-os-9-touchscreen-tablet-mac/

Yet another breadcrumb along the path? ;)
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2024, 05:18:35 PM »

IIRC there is a specific iMac G3 2nd party or 3rd party model which did precisely that, at least for OS 9. OS X 10.5 does not boot on G3s AFAIK, though, but 10.4 does.

I forgot their names and stuff, though. But it is a thing. And it is rare IIRC.

There was also a different vendor that did provide such an add-on. Again, I forgot where I saw it, but I think it was YouTube, or the Macintosh Garden. Or was it here?

I'm using a G4 Mac Mini as a base.

G3 is just the housing. Either way Yeah I'm getting blanks here. I may consider going the raspberry pi or mini form factor approach as much as I feel it's a cop out, or just do a none touch screen model... temporarily.
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2024, 10:11:31 PM »

At the time in the '90s when OS 9 was still the thing, touch panel technology was not at the same level it is now. What you might have more luck finding is searching for Mac compatible touch screen overlays. These were typically a plastic and glass panel that sat on top of the computer and interfaced through USB, enabling single point touch control. Forget about multi-touch.
These were usually sold as assistive devices for people with impairments. I know one company that used to offer them was turningpointtechnology.com
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2024, 08:30:13 AM »

Less than 5 years ago there were Touch Pannels Mac Os 9 compatible. The monitor had a USB port (to be connected to the Mac) that acted as mouse. I cant remember if it were Alibaba or Aliexpress or Temu.

Check this spanish page in case there is a modell that works.

https://www.beetronics.es/c-pantallas-tactiles

P.D. I wrote a post 10 years ago about touchscreens...

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1713.0

I the last post there are Mac OS9 drivers for a screen.
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 x 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2024, 08:54:08 PM »

I found this monitor https://www.beetronics.es/pantalla-tactil-15-pulgadas-4-3 But dont know where to find the driver.

I also found a few ElO  https://www.ebay.com/itm/145222695773 https://www.ebay.com/itm/266677247212 Ones near my local area, but again drivers are the issue here.

I'm getting close to simply going the route of a raspberry pi or linux thin client / hackintosh.

But then I'd have to figure out a relay configuration to make a speaker properly interface with a push button for turning on ONLY (not off so I cant just wire it up to the button... I think, unless that button is wired to a direct on off switch).
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2024, 01:11:48 AM »

Elo iMac G3, for reference: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-os-86-imac-itouch-software-restore

Touching CRT screen directly. :o
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2024, 11:41:52 AM »

I know that it is a "recent" model and so, no driver for OS 9 but … they say that it is HID compliant … I wonder how much it is HID compliant …

Check this Iiyama ProLite T1521MSC-B1 :)

I can try to get my mini G4 at work to try a Iiyama touch screen we use to check the behaviour of OS 9 with them.
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2024, 02:02:11 PM »

Another possibility would be to look for used touch screen monitor (display), cannibalize it and hope that it could be controlled via USB on a Mac somehow.
Here's one example by LG (That's "Lucky Goldstar", in case you didn't know what these two letters mean)
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2024, 06:48:07 AM »

All these old men showing their age remembering “Goldstar”  ;)
Funny how they began like a brand of cheap consumer electronics and now being such a big company.
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Re: Mac Mini G4 - OS 9 & 10.5 Compatible Touch Pannel - Does it Exist?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2024, 07:20:05 AM »

All these old men showing their age remembering “Goldstar”  ;)

And yeah...
all you young whippersnappers thinking that LG stands for “Life’s Good”!

You know I am just having “happy funtime” with you Philgood. ;D
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