Mac OS 9 Lives
Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) => Topic started by: IIO on April 28, 2014, 11:07:48 AM
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hi guys
i should have a "complete" overview of OS9 plug-ins at http://www.vst-mac.info/
and if you think something is missing, i will be grateful for every hint. :)
the links to the vendors in the OS9 list are a bit outdated (like the whole site), but there is google anyway.
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Huge list and Huge work!
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Great overview! I didn't know there was was an OS9 version of REFX Nexus. If so....requested asap! ;D
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Well, 1.4x version and up are for Mac Os X 10.4 and up...
May be that 1.0.9 version is for Mac Os 9. I will know in a few days...
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Hi,
I am curious. I only can find info on REFX Vanguard for Mac OS9. E.g. http://www.emusician.com/gear/0769/refx-vanguard-104-mac/win/146141 Also a very desirable VSTi for EDM productions. Haven't found a copy yet. ::)
Greetz,
Arjen
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...I wish to be wrong -I like RFX sound a lot- but Vanguard never were made for Mac Os 9...
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I've never heard of it too. Wish it would be true...But I am confident you are right. ;D
However (pardon me for being stubborn) if you do a google search for "ReFX Vanguard MacOS9" you'll find a lot of articles wich state that it was released for Mac OS9. Like this one... http://www.macmusic.org/news/view.php/lang/en/id/1659/
And it's, like Nexus, on the list too. :o
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I've never heard of it too. Wish it would be true...But I am confident you are right. ;D
However (pardon me for being stubborn) if you do a google search for "ReFX Vanguard MacOS9" you'll find a lot of articles wich state that it was released for Mac OS9. Like this one... http://www.macmusic.org/news/view.php/lang/en/id/1659/
And it's, like Nexus, on the list too. :o
Despite this web pages, a few years ago, I made a deep "investigation" about this software ...and that was my conclusion...
...but may be I'm wrong. I wish... :)
In any way, I don't have it and don't know where I can find it :(
So any track that take us to RFX Vanguard will be apreciated :)
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OK. I'll give it a try but you're probably right.
If you know more about Nexus...let me know!
Greetz,
Arjen
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If you know more about Nexus...let me know!
Confirmed: There aren't a Mac Os 9 version.
... and this text was extracted from 1.0.9 version manual:
Minimal Mac system requirements
§ Mac G4 800MHz or better / Mac Intel 1.4 GHz or better
§ Minimum of 512Mb RAM
§ Hard drive space required: 3Gb
§ Operating system: Mac OSX Version 10.4.8 or later
§ Graphics (minimum resolution): 16-bit 800x600
§ Host: Any application with either VSTi support (e.g. Cubase SX) or AU (AudioUnit) support (e.g. Logic)
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This myth is busted! It was too good to be true.
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Well, 1.4x version and up are for Mac Os X 10.4 and up...
May be that 1.0.9 version is for Mac Os 9. I will know in a few days...
hihi. grey color means "announced". so if it turned out wrong, i am completely innocent about it. :)
as you can see there was no update to the site since 2006. maybe i should get those grey entries sorted some day to reach a final stage.
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i´ve just looked through it. ALL grey entries were never released.
the only ones which exist are the NI kontakt players - but they are unofficial versions, i.e. they should also not be there.
you can see the OSX panic among developers in that funny graph under "counting", which compares the new releases between the platforms over summer 2003, where suddenyl everyone stopped building for OS9 because they were keen of using XCode stuff.
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i think the jeremy sagan stuff is also wrong. at least i dont have them installed (but maybe thats because i dont own a full version of the host program they are coming with.)
i think i will release the one or other new pluggo in the future, then the OS) list will grow again. ;)
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Still...a great list! Thanks for your work....and keep it growing! ;D
Greetz,
Arjen
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it would be funny to find something new of course, but i think if there ever will be new entries to the OS9 list, then they will be from me. i still have tons to go which are not yet built or have never been released anywhere (which would be a condition for they end up in the "list" website.)
re:sagan: the metro plugs exist, i just dont have them installed because they only work in metro and make cubase crash on startup.
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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep09/articles/vstdiy.htm
just found this article
obviously its about osx but.. may be of interest;)
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btw -- 110.. glad to have u here;)
i obviously saw your site a long time ago as its been online for a very long time;)
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honestly tho if u want to do something REALLY usefull.. recreate the Re:Fuse software functionality so we can use vsti's + reason + ableton live with pro tools 5 under os9 without payin 30$ for a single user license, pretty sure this whole idea began as a hack based on the 'ugly vsti' itself, being programmed in max msp
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honestly tho if u want to do something REALLY usefull.. recreate the Re:Fuse software functionality so we can use vsti's + reason + ableton live with pro tools 5 under os9 without payin 30$ for a single user license, pretty sure this whole idea began as a hack based on the 'ugly vsti' itself, being programmed in max msp
Oh yeah. An optimized 2014 MacOS9 vst(i) host could be really cool.
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i am working on a new host as you can see in the respective forum thread ... but about refuse ... i dont know / cant remember what it did.
of course we have two other options: 1. i could ask the colluege if he makes it free 2. it is most likely that i have a "working" version of it in my archives. but the preferred method of all will be that i try to build you guys something better.
give me a few days with the thing i promised mactron (i have some other hobbies, too) then we will see what we need next. :)
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ok, refuse, easy to build, but i dont fully get how to make use of it, as i am not a big fan of rewire.
he has the direct connect driver as default but he has also included the nonrealtime and VST audio output driver ... weird.
how are you guys are going to use it?
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ok, refuse, easy to build, but i dont fully get how to make use of it, as i am not a big fan of rewire.
he has the direct connect driver as default but he has also included the nonrealtime and VST audio output driver ... weird.
how are you guys are going to use it?
I dunno the request from Mactron.
Maybe there are 2 request:
1 Make "Ugly" not "Ugly". Make an 2014 VST(i) host more advanced than ugly...
2 Make "ReFuse"/compatible app work for us. He still sells it (and AAX==>2014 plugs) so hacking it sounds like starving families... >:( The thing is to make rewire work on Protools 5...Maybe we can ask him to deliver free Refuse for us...
Kontakt inside protools via direct connect and your adapter would be my use. EXS24 seems to work via Direct connect loading logic too, maybe using EXSP24 in protools via an VST/RTAS adapter could come in handy too. Anyway anything you develop would be great because it borns here on MacOS9Lives!
Let's hear the requests of DH, Mactron, ChrisNova, Sintho, Knezzen and Dr Bu too. Maybe I am asking trivial things for advanced users...
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i just hacked into it. he has documented his nag and copy protection scheme extensively. but no, that would not be honorably, sorry. :)
however he has done a great job, clean code, some fine details in background to ensure a good user expierience.
but i think one can make a simpler or different app instead.
do you guys neeed rewire 1 support, too? rewire 2 only would be much easier. using IAC buses in OMS is a dangerous party, i often chrash with things like that. (i require this method for example when i want to use maxmsp with tokio or reaktor, because the VST2 in maxmsp does not support "control change" but only notes.)
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correct me if i am wrong, i have no experience with these things. but to use kontakt with PT it should be enough to have a standalone VST host which takes midi over OMS and sends audio over directconnect, no?
not sure about latency...? but rewire has latency too! for example leigh marble uses 512 buffer size in order to make max not suck CPU ... just like i do this in the same situation, see the otheer thread.
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do you guys neeed rewire 1 support, too? rewire 2 only would be much easier. using IAC buses in OMS is a dangerous party, i often chrash with things like that. (i require this method for example when i want to use maxmsp with tokio or reaktor, because the VST2 in maxmsp does not support "control change" but only notes.)
Please, start with a rewire 2 only version. Maybe later a rewire 1 comp version. Any work is welcome. :D ;D
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http://www.vst-mac.info/ <-- should be added to the thread topic subject
to be featured here more prominently
this site has been up for a very long time. i remember seeing it many many times, as im sure most people
interested in vst technology on the internet has at one point seen this site for the last 10 years
since about 2001 i think?
web backups (http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.vst-mac.info) go back to 2003... thats over 10 years
seems mostly active from 2003-2008