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Title: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on May 28, 2019, 06:39:04 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20021001160954/http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_ata133.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20030811071116/http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempo_ata133.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20030716071259/http://sonnettech.com/publicfiles/pdfs/pdf_datasheets/tempo_133_datasheet.pdf
https://www.sonnettech.com/support/downloads/manuals/tempo_ata133_qsg.pdf

(https://web.archive.org/web/20030811202854im_/http://www.sonnettech.com/imgs/imgs_prods/prodpics_lrg/tempo133_lrg.jpg)

pc version was also called a Promise Ultra133 TX2
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI
Post by: macStuff on May 28, 2019, 06:44:45 AM
attached tempo133_firm_325.sit
how does this have installable firmware with no flash eeprom chip?
its inside the larger chip somehow?

some firmware files retrieved from sonnettech.com website backup
http://www.sonnettech.com/support/kb/kb.php?cat=330&expand=_a3_a13_a2_a1_b325_b52_b440_b439&action=b440

"This firmware updater is only for use with Tempo ATA133, Tempo HD, and Tempo Trio PCI Host Adapter cards. Large hard drives (greater than 137GB) are supported under Mac OS 9 and OS X 10.2 with firmware Version 4.5. If you are not planning to use these large drives, download this firmware (Version 4.0)."
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on June 30, 2019, 04:00:35 PM
i got my package today with 1x ultra100TX2 card, and 1x ultra133 tx2 card
1 of each to try to mod to mac

if anyone has experience modifying these cards for mac use please step forward
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on December 08, 2019, 01:34:29 PM
Me.
 ;D
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on December 09, 2019, 10:52:45 AM
i got my package today with 1x ultra100TX2 card, and 1x ultra133 tx2 card
1 of each to try to mod to mac

if anyone has experience modifying these cards for mac use please step forward

Not only that, I just got the green light from Sonnet.
No need to modify your card, only flash properly with the factory flash utility.
Would be nice to have it posted somewhere here, for everyone's benefit.

Sonnet does not see any business with UltraTek/100/133/Trio. So why not make the factory flash public?
Benefits you - and indirectly benefits me if you are happy.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 10, 2020, 07:53:18 AM
lets do it  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 11, 2020, 02:11:45 PM
standing by to test the Promise 133 card in a Sawtooth AGP machine
also interested to try one of these in a PCI G3/G4 Video slot (which runs at 66mhz)
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on January 11, 2020, 05:44:15 PM
standing by to test the Promise 133 card in a Sawtooth AGP machine
also interested to try one of these in a PCI G3/G4 Video slot (which runs at 66mhz)

The only what prevents me to release for Promise 133 now is that I have only two working MacOS 9 machines and both are MDD-s.
I found a Sawtooth in rather sorry condition as well, it has no power supply.

I think I blew the power supply after we moved from Cupertino to Europe and I forgot to switch it to 220V.
Currently it's home of a dozen or so spiders, has no other function.

An idea how to get a power supply for that hing would be good.
Sawtooth is a very unusual machine with a very nasty Intel PCI-PCI bridge called "Bandit".

I always patch the bridge settings so the I/O on my cards in the Sawtooth is usually much faster on both "9" and "X".
The backside is that with that patch you should not operate two cards simultaneously, they will fight and slow down.

For a single card (ATA, SATA, etc.) it is fine.

You may have an other card in Sawtooth, but than the bridge will prioritize my card because of these settings.

Computers after the Sawtooth like do not have that "Bandit" problem, not sure about G3 "Yosemite" and it's G4 sibling with 66 MHz slot.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 11, 2020, 05:58:48 PM
replacing a sawtooth psu is probably the easiest psu replacement going.. find any ATX PSU (250 watts + up) and u can buy an adapter

http://atxg4.com/
not sure if these guys are still in business

its probably even easier for most of us determined folks to make your own adapter
(which allows u to do modifications to the adapter, and keep the psu as-is)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-Pin-Male-to-Female-ATX-Power-Supply-PSU-Extension-Cable-Extender-24cm-M-F/271767144930 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-Pin-Male-to-Female-ATX-Power-Supply-PSU-Extension-Cable-Extender-24cm-M-F/271767144930)

i bought a bunch of these cords and used them to make my own adapter

see this thread: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1879.0
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 11, 2020, 06:04:04 PM
so the above firmware updates wont work to change it to a mac card?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on January 12, 2020, 04:42:30 PM
so the above firmware updates wont work to change it to a mac card?

Not on my MDD because they do not show up in Open Firmware.
I 100% remember, I did update all kind of Promise cards in earlier machines.

The same time these controllers do show up in regular PC or in my 2009 MacPro.
I have a PCIe - PCI bridge (development board).

I ordered a cheap PCI-PCIe bridge board on feeBay, it did not arrive yet.

The power supply on my Sawtooth was blown up years ago. As we moved back to Europe I forgot to switch it from 120 to 220V.
I found that there is a way to modify a regular PC power supply for the Sawtooth.
I may just do that, the machine is otherwise in OK shape.

I may also pick up some old G4 in Germany in few weeks.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 12, 2020, 06:11:46 PM
shouldnt be hard to find a G4 some people give them away and some people try to charge a few hundred dollars because they are money hungry;
anyways my card is here on my desk, id love to be able to flash it now

doesnt the flasher already exist? from old days?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on January 13, 2020, 04:24:06 AM
shouldnt be hard to find a G4 some people give them away and some people try to charge a few hundred dollars because they are money hungry;
anyways my card is here on my desk, id love to be able to flash it now

doesnt the flasher already exist? from old days?

It is quite a chaos and I need to validate it.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 21, 2020, 03:25:19 PM
i thought getting the promise card to work on the mac was going to require some hardware modification
id really like to test the promise card into the 66mhz pci slot in my B+W G3 450mhz machine
because its supposed to be able to support double bandwidth running at 66mhz instead of 33mhz

but then again that is really geeky curiousity from way back
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on January 21, 2020, 03:36:35 PM
i thought getting the promise card to work on the mac was going to require some hardware modification
id really like to test the promise card into the 66mhz pci slot in my B+W G3 450mhz machine
because its supposed to be able to support double bandwidth running at 66mhz instead of 33mhz

but then again that is really geeky curiousity from way back

I don't recall any modification being necessary - except the driver and  flasher change to recognize the ID-s.
There was a large space in our garage in Cupertino. I bought a used Magma and many first cards were just re-flashed there to go back to Taiwan for testing.
Today I regret that I don't have that Magma box. There are very few on eBay, the price is outlandish - and the shipping cost to get them from the States to EU is even more outlandish.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: AtariMan on January 24, 2020, 12:03:12 PM
I kept the original firmware, but it differs from the Windows firmware. This firmware for the Mac is 32kb, and the PC version is 16kb. Can anyone reduce its size to 16kb? In any case, I share it.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on January 24, 2020, 03:39:32 PM
I kept the original firmware, but it differs from the Windows firmware. This firmware for the Mac is 32kb, and the PC version is 16kb. Can anyone reduce its size to 16kb? In any case, I share it.

Thanks,

The problem is not the firmware or even how to flash it into anything which has PDC 20268... PDC 20269 on it, most likely the PDC 20270 as well.
I do even have the PDC20271 now.

The problem is that I don't have any legacy Mac other than MDD. And PC version does not show up in my MDD at the Open Firmware level because of an apparent bug in the MDD.
I am chasing a working Quicksilver or similar - or a PCI-to-PCIe bridge.

The Quicksilver is in this part of the world is non-existing. An @sshole hit my car yesterday, that delays my travel to better part of Europe by few days.
And finally the PCI-PCIe bridge arrived and I do "see" Promise cards even in Thunderbolt-3 chassis.

Since I wrote all the Mac firmware for these cards I am fine, just need more time.

This is not a huge priority now - porting the fastest 3124 driver to "9" is.

But if anyone in Stuttgart - Karlsruhe area can get me a Quicksilver that would speed things up.
There is apparently one for sale not far away:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/APPLE-PowerMac-PC-G4-Desktop-Macintosh-funktioniert/114074766318

With luck I may even get it.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 24, 2020, 05:02:40 PM
perhaps some other european members of this site can help you to try to find a mac for development purposes
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on January 24, 2020, 05:58:48 PM
perhaps some other european members of this site can help you to try to find a mac for development purposes

The bridge board should do the trick. Once flashed as "Mac", the Promise cards do show up in MDD.

This is very interesting, by the way: if you have an MDD and a Promise card with 268, 269, 270 or 271 chip for PC: does it show up in your MDD at the Open Firmware level or not?
Maybe my MDD has a problem.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: macStuff on January 24, 2020, 06:03:47 PM
tbh i havent checked but i do have both neccessary ingredients
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: (S)ATAman on April 25, 2020, 11:39:57 AM
tbh i havent checked but i do have both neccessary ingredients
I checked, the Promise card is really nasty. The "naked" (no FCODE) card will show up on everything, except MDD.
One minor mistake - you have a card which does not show up.
But it does not affect the PC, on Intel machines I can make all Promise cards work, but so far wasn't able to flash them, only on PPC machines.

The Promise is postponed, the 3114/3112/680 is quite close now across all hardware and it has OS-9, too.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on February 28, 2021, 11:30:38 AM
any chance we can get the driver for these cards to use with MACOS9?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: nsputnik on June 16, 2021, 10:16:39 AM
Has anyone tried to load the Sonnet firmware into a Promise branded card with the PDC20269 chipset?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on October 27, 2021, 03:08:03 PM
has anyone heard from SATAman?
i was really looking forward to being able to use my PC version Promise ATA PCI's for MACOS9
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: Cashed on January 08, 2022, 11:17:53 AM
*Update

Just contacted DosDude1, asking him if he would look into modifying the PC versions of ‘Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI‘ called ‘Promise Ultra133 TX2’ making it compatible with Mac. This have been postponed now for too Long and no one else have taken up the challenge. 
darthnVader are looking for the card aswell.

If you have any other inquiries, requests can be done at https://doslabelectronics.com (https://doslabelectronics.com)
"About Us:  DosLab Electronics, LLC was formed by two people who just wanted to fix things. We pride ourselves in creating unique solutions to complex problems. We create these solutions in an attempt to make life a little better for those who have broken things.
Since the start we have saved over six-thousand MacBooks from the landfill. Our goals are simple, find a problem, fix it, and offer the solution to the public in a cheap and accessible manner."
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: blacksheep on January 13, 2022, 01:19:30 PM
Has anyone tried to load the Sonnet firmware into a Promise branded card with the PDC20269 chipset?

Late to the party but I did try. Sonnet firmware utility does not see the card under 9.2.1, despite it's listed in OF device tree and visible in OS 9 ASP in PCI section. I tried Tempo 133 Firmware 4.0 app.

Some tips from (S)ATAman would be great, how to "flash properly with factory utility".
I have PDC20268 card as well (Ultra100 TX2) and will try it with Tempo 100 firmware utility, but I presume the result will be the same as 20269 one.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on January 14, 2022, 12:55:34 AM
sataman is the guy who already has everything he needs to make it happen
he wrote the original firmware for PROMISE! he knows how to do it
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: blacksheep on January 14, 2022, 07:24:04 AM
Yes, I know. That's why I mentioned him. But it seems he's not active from some time. I hope he's OK and will come back.

So I'd have a request in the meantime: please post original Sonnet Tempo ATA133 and maybe Tempo ATA100 System Profiler screenshot. I'm interested with hardware ID's: device ID, vendor/subvendor ID etc.

BTW, I forget to introduce myself in appropriate thread. This day will come :) Some of members here may know me from MR, netkas, aquamac and some other mac-oriented forums.

Title: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI / Promise chipset - PDC20269M)
Post by: FBz on January 14, 2022, 08:43:11 AM
Here’s an OS 9.2.2 System Profiler shot of a Sonnet Tempo ATA 133
                      - (with the PDC20269M) installed in a B&W G3.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: Cashed on January 14, 2022, 12:40:14 PM
Thanks Chris, blacksheep, FBz good knowledge to know of. And welcome blacksheep.

Dosdude1 hasn’t replied as of yet, but we’ve all seen his schematic works on YouTube, and he’s ever only once, posted in this community. That’s why I joined in, to help out.
Others have contacted me and are looking into it as well. (S)ATAman was Last Active: March 06, 2021. I’m sure if he could, he would keep his promise.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: blacksheep on January 14, 2022, 12:46:46 PM
Thank you FBz, I'll do some tests during the weekend. I got some OS X screenshots as well from MR PPC forum along with interesting insights. I want to focus on what (S)ATAman said in this thread, i.e. figure out what is needed to flash the card properly with factory utility.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on January 14, 2022, 02:02:46 PM
sataman just pm'd me last night talking about COVID so i think his health may be impacted by the virus
its not enough that COVID pandemic has gimped the whold world,  even trying to stop the underground mac crew lol

i have quite a few aging machines that im planning on wiping + deconstructing + repurposing
having these promise cards work would let me use (with IDE>SATA adapter) alot of  mechanical hard drives (from 2014-2020 time periods) i have that still work great
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on January 16, 2022, 01:29:31 PM
actually the pm i saw was old - he didnt message me - i was stoned and misread my pms lol
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: DieHard on January 16, 2022, 02:47:45 PM
actually the pm i saw was old - he didnt message me - i was stoned and misread my pms lol

Wish I could mail you some, I don't smoke because it puts me right to sleep. But here in SoCal it's pretty hilarious, my 84 year old dad has about 3/4 of an acre and is allowed to grow up to 12 plants, they all get up to about 8 ft when he harvests them and he nets about 6 lbs. of fully pruned product which he has for medical purposes only... of course.

Here is a pick of last years mid way crop with my 2 boys...
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on January 16, 2022, 04:50:47 PM
well it is legal now ;)  8) OH CANADA!
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: blacksheep on February 02, 2022, 09:52:03 PM
Thanks to joevt and DearthnVader we are making some promising (aptly named  :D) progress. I'm looking for datasheet of PDC20268 or 20269 IC, but can't find it anywhere. If anyone of you does have it or can help finding one and post here, it would be great.
BTW, still no hear from (S)ATAman?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on February 03, 2022, 07:21:15 AM
i did hear from SATAMAN.. hes having health issues still + not being very productive.. still wish him + vader could use the force together lol
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: blacksheep on February 03, 2022, 11:27:56 AM
This is a good news (and bad one regarding his health problems). Now we're missing one thing to achieve full success: how to force the flasher to write full 64K ROM to the internal EEPROM of PDC20268/9. Currently it's possible to flash the card with ROM reduced to 16K and the rest needs to be loaded from disk.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: darthnVader on February 03, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Thanks to joevt and DearthnVader we are making some promising (aptly named  :D) progress. I'm looking for datasheet of PDC20268 or 20269 IC, but can't find it anywhere. If anyone of you does have it or can help finding one and post here, it would be great.
BTW, still no hear from (S)ATAman?

It's Darth don't call me dearth nVader;-) fscking typo and Mac Rumors won't let me change it. >:(

Anywho, hoping SataMan is ok and doing well.

I don't know how much he can help us or what maybe covered under an NDA he is bound too.

PROMISE didn't want people flashing cheaper non Raid cards to Raid functionality, that's why the lack of data sheets for these cards, that and IP they didn't want to expose to any competition they had.

FrmTk wrote the FCODE ROM for Sonnet and I'm sure they didn't want people flashing PC Cards to Mac and all that would be rapped up in 3 party NDA's. With at least one of those parties now defunct. The copywrite is FrmTk, but the IP is Promise.

It would be nice if there were real abandonware laws, if what the US Constitution says about copywrite for a limited time had not come to mean unlimited. If there were a true push for Open Hardware documentation.

Anyway, there is a check of the PDC Chip used in the PC BIOS, so flashing a PDC20269 with a PDC20270 BIOS won't turn it into a raid card. So there is no reason for Promise to play this game with the device ID and Flashrom. I've reached out to an old contact that knows how to reverse engineer x86 assembly used in this PC BIOS, but maybe we should also try and reverse engineer the PTIFLASH.EXE.

What we have now with the 16k FCODE ROM is really enough, we can leverage the NVRAMRC to automate the boot process loading the full FCODE ROM each boot, it really doesn't effect the way the card performs, it just makes it hard for any eBay sellers to steal our work for their profit. 8)

Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: blacksheep on February 03, 2022, 12:36:28 PM

It's Darth don't call me dearth nVader;-) fscking typo and Mac Rumors won't let me change it. >:(


I won't, I PROMISE ;)

What we have now with the 16k FCODE ROM is really enough, we can leverage the NVRAMRC to automate the boot process loading the full FCODE ROM each boot, it really doesn't effect the way the card performs, it just makes it hard for any eBay sellers to steal our work for their profit. 8)

Makes sense, I didn't think about these eBay leeches, mostly because I don't see the market for such old HW in my neighbourhood. But in bigger picture you're right of course.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: IIO on February 03, 2022, 02:47:45 PM
I don't know how much he can help us or what maybe covered under an NDA he is bound too.

if only the rest of the world would care about his copyrights.

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FrmTk wrote the FCODE ROM for Sonnet and I'm sure they didn't want people flashing PC Cards to Mac

pardon me if i am leaving the topic (no interest in raid mode here), but this thread makes me think about the sonnet ATA 133 card as an alternative to their SATA 150 card, which is almost impossible to find.

does anyone know if you can still buy them second hand somewhere for an appropiate price, what the current situation at the leftover of firmtek is about them (i.e. can you still contact them like you can for the SATA products?) - and did anyone successfully used this specific card in conjunction with our cheap green SATA adapters?
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: darthnVader on February 03, 2022, 03:07:49 PM
I don't know how much he can help us or what maybe covered under an NDA he is bound too.

if only the rest of the world would care about his copyrights.

Quote
FrmTk wrote the FCODE ROM for Sonnet and I'm sure they didn't want people flashing PC Cards to Mac

pardon me if i am leaving the topic (no interest in raid mode here), but this thread makes me think about the sonnet ATA 133 card as an alternative to their SATA 150 card, which is almost impossible to find.

does anyone know if you can still buy them second hand somewhere for an appropiate price, what the current situation at the leftover of firmtek is about them (i.e. can you still contact them like you can for the SATA products?) - and did anyone successfully used this specific card in conjunction with our cheap green SATA adapters?

You can just flash you own SIL3221 card, easy peasy. It's the Sonnet ATA cards that are rare and expensive to come by. The SATA cards do not support ATAPI with the Mac firmware or drivers, the ATA cards do, tho the performance leaves a lot to be desired of connected ATAPI devices. Something I plan on working on.

I'm using a cheap, no brand ATA>SATA connector on the PDC20269 and PDC20270 and they work well with HD's, had not tried with ATAPI( SATA ) yet.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: IIO on February 03, 2022, 04:49:42 PM
You can just flash you own SIL3221 card, easy peasy.

one might think that when someone is a philosopher, application programmer and inventor he should also be able to "flash a card".

but let me tell you that i have no idea where to buy such a card and how to flash it.^^

my currently only half-working sonnet card gives me headache, after even (s)ataman could not help me to fix it or find the cause, i have given up and removed it and atm i use the internals SSDs at the quicksilver´s IDE (100) bus. (at the cost of  the two small IDE drives, which isnt a real problem)

my dream setup would be a solution around a seritek 1v4. but even if seritek would answer emails and deliver me a second hand one: i am in europe and i would like to buy a second one as replacement part (for the next 20 years of professional OS9 use) and t wo cards wioth oversea shipping is almost a bit above my budget for that kind of stuff.

(...u think using that ATA card with adapters will be much slower? my SATA HDs once gave me 110mb/s via PCI and 92 via cheap adapter at the ATA 100...)
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: zefrenchtoon on February 04, 2022, 04:22:48 AM
...
one might think that when someone is a philosopher, application programmer and inventor he should also be able to "flash a card".

but let me tell you that i have no idea where to buy such a card and how to flash it.^^

...

Sorry for the french link but this guy tests everything  ::)
including flashing SATA PC cards to use in a Mac  ;)

https://www.journaldulapin.com/2015/04/27/du-sata-et-un-ssd-dans-un-power-mac-g3-ou-g4-bis/
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: IIO on February 04, 2022, 02:30:26 PM
so you need to do it on a PC, that is what i thought. i recently noticed that i do have one around. ;)
sry for offtopic, i am quiet now.
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: Cashed on February 05, 2022, 06:14:03 AM
Found some promise/sonnet specs.
https://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/blob/560e886b67562726712aecd460548ba2b201b7ad?f=share/misc/pci_vendors (https://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/blob/560e886b67562726712aecd460548ba2b201b7ad?f=share/misc/pci_vendors)
https://github.com/54616E6E6572/Mosa/blob/master/Data/PCIList/pci.db (https://github.com/54616E6E6572/Mosa/blob/master/Data/PCIList/pci.db)
http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.8.1/2.6.8.1-mm3/broken-out/bk-pci.patch (http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.8.1/2.6.8.1-mm3/broken-out/bk-pci.patch)
ftp://ftp.oeaw.ac.at/pc/Misc/UnknownDevices/pcidevs.txt (http://ftp://ftp.oeaw.ac.at/pc/Misc/UnknownDevices/pcidevs.txt) txt file download.
https://www.jotrin.com (https://www.jotrin.com)
https://www.alldatasheet.com (https://www.alldatasheet.com)
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: chrisNova777 on February 21, 2023, 11:24:15 PM
did anyone succeed in getting one of the PC versions of these cards to mac?
i remember hearing about people who did it way back in the day...

i was hoping SATAMAN was going to release firmware to just flash it and make it work but he dissappeared
Title: Re: Sonnet Tempo ATA 133 PCI (Promise chipset - PDC20269)
Post by: darthnVader on March 17, 2023, 09:22:34 AM
did anyone succeed in getting one of the PC versions of these cards to mac?
i remember hearing about people who did it way back in the day...

i was hoping SATAMAN was going to release firmware to just flash it and make it work but he dissappeared

Well Joe VT and I were able to make a 16k ROM that could load the full ROM from the Open Firmware command line to get the PC Cards working.

The issue is with the Sonnet flasher it will only write 16k to the eeprom.

I think SATAMAN has a better Sonnet flasher that can flash the full eprom, but he is having login issues here. He's been posting over at MacRumors.

He said he's busy with other stuff right now, but he will get back to these cards, so hopefully we can get these Promise cards sorted........