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krieg000

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No Common Encryption Algorithms
« on: October 30, 2022, 06:06:47 AM »

I've been trying to visit different websites using Clasilla, but only a handful of them (macos9lives being one of them) actually work. For the others, I get errors like "Clasilla and X.org cannot communicate securely because they have no common encryption algorithms". Is there anyway to fix these errors?
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2022, 11:14:51 AM »

I don't think so, unfortunately. It is a very old browser on an even older operating system, and much of the modern web will only allow secure connections that Classilla does not support.
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2022, 01:18:00 PM »

Okay, thank you.
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2022, 10:18:59 PM »

Hi krieg000,

if you feel adventurous, you can download MachTen on the Garden, and then try to use Crypto Ancienne (http://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/07/crypto-ancienne-20-now-brings-tls-13-to.html?m=0) as a bridge to the modern SSL world.

Please keep in mind that it is resource intensive so it will be slower to work depending on the CPU. However, as it function as a proxy, you can also delegate its execution to another device on your network (i.e. a raspberry pi...)
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2023, 01:04:46 PM »

Hi krieg000,

if you feel adventurous, you can download MachTen on the Garden, and then try to use Crypto Ancienne (http://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/07/crypto-ancienne-20-now-brings-tls-13-to.html?m=0) as a bridge to the modern SSL world.

Please keep in mind that it is resource intensive so it will be slower to work depending on the CPU. However, as it function as a proxy, you can also delegate its execution to another device on your network (i.e. a raspberry pi...)

Have you gotten it to work? I've been ripping my hair out for almost a week now; I've followed the (broken) instructions to a T, tried it as root, not root, tried the 414 binary, tried the 56 binary.... NOTHING works.

Every time I try to run "./micro_inetd 8765 ./carl -p" it complains "bind: invalid argument." Google is useless and has been for nearly a decade; this is so incredibly frustrating, I'm about ready to just dumpster the whole thing and be done with it. Any advice?
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2024, 08:55:28 AM »

Hi krieg000,

if you feel adventurous, you can download MachTen on the Garden, and then try to use Crypto Ancienne (http://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/07/crypto-ancienne-20-now-brings-tls-13-to.html?m=0) as a bridge to the modern SSL world.

Please keep in mind that it is resource intensive so it will be slower to work depending on the CPU. However, as it function as a proxy, you can also delegate its execution to another device on your network (i.e. a raspberry pi...)

Have you gotten it to work? I've been ripping my hair out for almost a week now; I've followed the (broken) instructions to a T, tried it as root, not root, tried the 414 binary, tried the 56 binary.... NOTHING works.

Every time I try to run "./micro_inetd 8765 ./carl -p" it complains "bind: invalid argument." Google is useless and has been for nearly a decade; this is so incredibly frustrating, I'm about ready to just dumpster the whole thing and be done with it. Any advice?

I also cannot get Crypto Ancienne to work via Power MachTen 4.1.4 (actually called 5.0.5 when running on Mac OS 9.1 ~ 9.2.2, which require an update that internally bumps the version number up from 4.1.4 to 5.0.5), despite having also followed the official instructions religiously. Redid the process multiple times, even reinstalled Power MachTen from scratch.

The official instructions ARE broken. I haven't heard of anyone other than Cameron Kaiser himself getting his own tool to work via Power MachTen. There's also yet another user in the Macintosh Garden, who also did the same and, likewise, could not get it to work. (I have yet to check MacRumors PPC if anyone got it working. I will do so soon.)

One thing to note, though, is that our errors are different: Instead of "bind: invalid argument.", the Garden user and I both get a mere one-word sentence rendered on the page, saying "Timeout".

There is clearly a missing step or two somewhere here. Has ANYONE here EVER gotten Crypto Ancienne to work "directly" from Mac OS 9, using Power MachTen? Having to use a heavier x86 VM instead, or an entirely separate machine, should NOT be required.
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2024, 01:13:59 PM »

I'm still stumped over this, but there was some progress: I'm no longer getting any timeout whatsoever with carl nor Classilla, and carl itself can retrieve an HTTPS page HTML as plain text, but I CANNOT for the life of me get it to act as a proxy for Classilla.

Full details, with pictures, here: http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/tips-debugging-crypto-ancienne-machten-414#comment-102978
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2024, 01:32:20 PM »

It depends on how the MachTen network library interacts with the native network drivers. Do programs running in MachTen (like ifconfig or ping) see the same internet host address as what is assigned to the Mac Network control panel?
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2024, 01:28:36 AM »

It depends on how the MachTen network library interacts with the native network drivers. Do programs running in MachTen (like ifconfig or ping) see the same internet host address as what is assigned to the Mac Network control panel?

Yes, they do. But don't worry: we just got it to work!!!

Full details about everything here:
http://macintoshgarden.org/forum/tips-debugging-crypto-ancienne-machten-414#comment-102983
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Re: No Common Encryption Algorithms
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2024, 02:26:11 AM »

Great, Jubadub! :)
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