Mac OS 9 Lives

Classic Mac OS Hardware => Video Cards, Monitors & Displays => Topic started by: darthnVader on May 03, 2018, 01:34:54 AM

Title: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: darthnVader on May 03, 2018, 01:34:54 AM
Mactron sent me one of these cards, but it appears to be partially dead, so Diehard sent another, and I put it in my Quicksilver, with out flashing it, and loaded the ROM for the Gainwood Dual DVI card onto it.

The Mac booted OS 9, and the card is fully supported. I tested 2D/3D and DVD Playback, what is more is, the OpenGL driver reports as Quadro4/AGP, rather that Geforce4Ti.

I never knew that OS 9 had the unified driver Unified Driver Architecture for OS 9, like OS X does, however it appears to work great. OS X requires a hack to add the Device ID to the NV20HAL for this card to work, even tho there is driver support for the card.

I'll have to run some benchmarks and see which card is the king of OS 9, Gainwood Dual DVI 4600Ti, or Quadro 900 XGL.

Stay turned. 8)

As always, thanks to Mactron and Diehard for providing test cards, Arti Itra for our Geforce4Ti ROM maker, Joe van Tunen, Segher Boessenkool, Tarl Neustaedter , and Mark Cave-Ayland for being our general Open Firmware Guru's, and putting up with my, sometimes, dumb questions.



Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: MacTron on May 03, 2018, 06:57:28 AM
The Mac booted OS 9, and the card is fully supported. I tested 2D/3D and DVD Playback, what is more is, the OpenGL driver reports as Quadro4/AGP, rather that Geforce4Ti.

I never knew that OS 9 had the unified driver Unified Driver Architecture for OS 9, like OS X does, however it appears to work great. OS X requires a hack to add the Device ID to the NV20HAL for this card to work, even tho there is driver support for the card.
Wow ! Awesome !
Thanks again for your invaluable work !


I'll have to run some benchmarks and see which card is the king of OS 9, Gainwood Dual DVI 4600Ti, or Quadro 900 XGL.

Stay turned. 8)


I guess that you'll find out that all cards performs the same. But who knows ... I'll wait for your test result.

Please include Cinebench 2003 in your test arsenal.
Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: IIO on May 03, 2018, 01:14:09 PM
maybe it is time to leave 1920*1200 behind me.

31,5 widescreen monitors like this new agon ag322qc4 (https://eu.aoc.com/de/gaming/products/ag322qc4) still come with VGA input.
Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: macStuff on May 04, 2018, 05:33:11 AM
great work darth  8) 8) 8)
we are all thankful!  ;D
err, at least those of us that can find one
im very glad, years later,  to hear that my hunch on this was correct,

i would bet on very small differences in benchmarks aswell
but it will be interesting to see!
Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: mrhappy on May 04, 2018, 07:31:34 AM
Wow... VERY cool Darth!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: darthnVader on May 06, 2018, 04:48:50 AM
Oddly, the Quadro 900 XGL doesn't want to drive a digital display from the lower port.

Just looking at this card and the Gainwood dual DVI card, they look to be the same, except for the 3 din stereo 3D vs the TV out.

I made a custom rom the the ROM Maker, but it does the same thing, no lower DVI.

It sees the display connected, but it just never really turns on the digital signal. VGA on the lower port and digital on the upper port are fine.

There is a section in the nVidia Fcode rom that does the signal routing, and I've seen where both signal can get routed to the same port, so I'll have to check our notes and see if I can resolve the issue.

 
Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: refinery on August 01, 2018, 01:35:21 PM
I just picked up one of these cards for my MDD. can anyone point me to a specific post or set of tools to flash one of these in a mac? i have been doing a lot of searching and I have not found conclusive information if this is actually possible or not, but it seems from darthnVader's post that it is? i'd really like to avoid tracking down an AGP PC. all the legacy files I have saved say they cant handle flashing PC cards.
Title: Re: Quadro 900 XGL
Post by: tunedbytad on June 21, 2022, 11:04:09 AM
Did this ever pan out?