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Title: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 08, 2017, 02:11:39 PM
So what did you do today with your PowerPC Mac? Be it just fiddling with it, upgrading it or doing something creative with it.

I myself unplugged my MDD, took it to the kitchen table to give it a good clean and move some air flow obstructing cables around, and remove the internal speaker to perhaps create a new route for air flow through the case.

Having done all this and taken some pictures of it (see below), I plugged it in again and pressed the power button. The button lights up for as long as I keep my finger on it, but the machine wont boot. PMU reset button does nothing, so I guess the original since 2002 PMU battery finely kicked the bucket. Just ordered a new battery off eBay and it will arrive next week. So a week without my MDD (my main computer). Hope it goes well. End of rant ;)

Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: devils_advisor on June 08, 2017, 04:55:41 PM
Did you hook up a xskey to the internal usb port? Btw remove all the cards and reset the machine again, that helped me last time. The machine should work with or without battery.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 08, 2017, 10:53:27 PM
It's not an xskey but a Usb Bluetooth dongle. Will try more stuff when I get home. Going to Prague to drink beer over the weekend ;)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on June 09, 2017, 06:56:13 AM
Going to Prague to drink beer over the weekend ;)

A worthy endeavor!! The Czech 'Budweiser' is COMPLETELY different from the US stuff and Much better!! ;D ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 10, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
A worthy endeavor!! The Czech 'Budweiser' is COMPLETELY different from the US stuff and Much better!! ;D ;D ;D


I have actually never tried any beer made in the US :P
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: devils_advisor on June 10, 2017, 03:36:46 AM
You go there to have some staropramen, that will knock you out of your socks.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 10, 2017, 04:52:22 AM
You go there to have some staropramen, that will knock you out of your socks.

Its good stuff indeed! You can buy all the Chech beer in Sweden as well, but drinking them in their home country feels much nicer ;)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: MacOS Plus on June 10, 2017, 08:58:45 AM
Just remember to be careful to never share your beer with your PowerPC Mac. ;)  (Seriously, I actually did spill half a bottle of beer in a PC keyboard before!  It took forever to clean it out completely.)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: dr bu on June 10, 2017, 10:03:36 AM
Topic.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on June 10, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
at least you, bu. nice one.

me... well not much. i was answering a few mails on the mac and then i went back to programming on the window lap - shame over me, but it saves energy, and the mac mini i ordered 5 day ago has not yet arrived at my house.

p.s. oh wait, i also had live 4 OSX open for a minute, to check something technical there.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: dr bu on June 10, 2017, 01:21:20 PM
VSC  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on June 10, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
could have been "acoustic and granular effect" as well.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on June 12, 2017, 10:58:04 AM
Got the MDD and the G5 up off the floor and onto the “working table” yesterday and cleaned up all that surrounding chaos. I did install Adobe CS2 on the G5 and rough-tested some Photoshop tasking. (I did not like it.) Funny thing was, the MDD beat the G5 on boot-startup by a mile (using OS X on both at boot). Wondering now what I’ll actually ever do with that G5. May try Photoshop 7 PowerPC install.

Then, moved over to the G3 and did some file clean-up/trashing, getting it ready to be replaced soon by the MDD. Spent the entire day down there picking up, organizing and tossing junk.

Speaking of junk. Delved a little into an old Apple CRT monitor that either the flyback’s gone/going, or completely covered in dust/sludge. Nice bright arc and that wonderful ozone schmell upon attempted startup. Someday maybe, I’ll take the time… most likely however it’ll go to the recyclers along with the rest of my old CRT collection. (Apple discontinued flyback free-fix on that monitor back in 2005.) Big Blue LaCie’s still plugging right along.

Looked into ATI updates to see if I could get the G3 monitor resolution up to par in OS 9 versus OS 10.3.9 -- 1920 x 1080 resolution (for yes, the dreaded LG flat panel). This will be postponed/held up until later this week. New motherboard for G4 DA should arrive today, so that tops the to-do list.

Anyone know the screw/thread size for the old Apple Cinema Display back, lucite leg? Intend to do a temporary fix, drilling up and screwing from the bottom side. Again, not knowing how much life is left in that monitor… not going to invest a lot of time or $$$ on it.

That's..."Fronk-en-steen"
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 14, 2017, 02:05:37 PM
I'm at this very moment in the process of reinstalling 9.2.2 on my PowerBook G3 Kanga after it got a 30gb KingSpec SSD. It's amazing how quiet it is now compared to when it had the old original 5GB drive.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 15, 2017, 07:58:47 AM
Just ordered a new battery off eBay and it will arrive next week. So a week without my MDD (my main computer). Hope it goes well. End of rant ;)

PRAM battery arrived today. Just changed it and all is well again. Writing this from the mighty MDD. Now I just need to get the passive graphics card cooler and figure out how to silence my PSU... Onwards against the goal of having the ultimate MDD ;)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on June 15, 2017, 08:49:28 AM
Hey-Zeus de-Christo! (Patience is indeed a virtue.) Congratulations Knez.

Czech beer drinking and the ability to simply "give it some time".
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on June 20, 2017, 01:42:26 PM
Just finished installing my new passive Zalman cooler on my GeForce 4 Ti4600.
Works great and fits without any modifications :)

Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on June 23, 2017, 08:47:07 AM
Pretty groovy Knez!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on December 22, 2017, 05:50:18 PM
Almost posted this elsewhere but I finally found / stumbled upon, this thread again.

Tore down and deep-cleaned an Apple 17” LCD/ADC Studio Display last night. (It looked as if someone had intentionally sprayed coca-cola on the screen and had allowed it to run down into and “cook” behind the bezel). Then, used (now nearly forgotten), *Novus Scratch Remover & Plastic Clean and Shine on the external clear plastic/lucite bits and got it looking pretty good overall. (*Good stuff, always used on motorcycle fairing windscreens and helmet face shields.) Fired it up and all was well… except for many dark “smudgy” areas on the screen’s display when powered up.

I think this monitor had been stored flat on its “back” and possibly with some weight resting upon the screen.

Now, I’m aware of the historic backlight and inverter problems associated with this monitor, but this seems more LCD-screen related. (Identical spots in same positions no matter which machine it’s attached to.)

So now (after all this time - monitor originally built around 2001), I’m wondering about a low-cost source for TFT replacement screens?  (Sorry, just can’t see sinking over $200 on a new screen.) I’ll keep looking. Anyone?

It will work fine as a palette monitor (non-color critical), but it would be nice to find a low-cost source and have a fully functional like-new monitor without the smudges. AND of course, this LCD has yet to develop the overall magenta color shift, so common with monitors of this type.

Yet, if this keeps up I may finally be attempting the (long-avoided and highly-dreaded), CRT discharge and flyback transformer replacement(s) effort… on all the big dead CRTs that I’ve yet to dispose of. (Threatening myself.)

So… what did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Astroman on December 23, 2017, 02:19:07 AM
if you're familiar with the 17" inverter problem you know that it's strictly area based and as such can tell the difference.
I remember an Apple 15" monitor of similiar built that only got one short hit while beeing transported on a backseat, but this never healed.

My G3 B/W will do it's ProTools TDM job as regular and happily exchanges with the rest of the family via Synology NAS. No problems with handling resource forks whatsoever, appears like a native Apple fileserver.

The Macbook Alu 1ghz 15" will get some rest. Running in a usable way with 2nd screen (Eizo CGW) at 1900x1200, but some flaws:
Network doesn't negotiate and runs 100/half duplex, FW and PC-card dead, and most of all the CPU seems locked at 500 MHZ. Cross-checked with the same app that only taxes the CPU on the G3 and results were nearly identical.
(need to aquire some open firmware knowledge before dugging deeper)

Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: macStuff on December 24, 2017, 08:12:21 AM
My G3 B/W will do it's ProTools TDM job as regular and happily exchanges with the rest of the family via Synology NAS. No problems with handling resource forks whatsoever, appears like a native Apple fileserver.

great to hear that the Synology NAS is working properly for you!
https://www.synology.com/en-us/products
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: superlions16 on December 24, 2017, 02:58:20 PM
Tried to run Shufflepuck on a 1.25GHz eMac with 9.2.2 Classic and 10.4.11 - Ran too fast! Tried Basilisk II (OS 8.0, 68040) - a bit slower but still too fast. But if you want to run it on eMac, you may try Mini vMac if they have it on PPC.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on December 25, 2017, 09:08:49 AM
From The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread
DieHard, it only works on Mac capable of booting 10.5.x though, since the iDefrag DVD uses a custom version of 10.5 to boot into. If you have iDefrag, just use the link in the picture to create a bootable DVD. You can choose from a Intel only or a Universal DVD (10.5 based).

Looks like those iDefrag links are now dead...

I installed a 700 GB SATA drive into a G5 last night to see if I could "recover" it. Came from a relative's old Windows machine that the Geek Squad had prompted them to replace after a "hang". It clicked and clunked a bit and I could't access any data from it, so I simply HFS+ reformatted it and all the clicks, clacks and clunks went away. Moved about a Gig of files to it and then (gasp), ran Norton CD (OS X boot), to check, defrag and optimize it. No probs. Then erased the moved files and found myself with a large blank SATA HD. Of course, MTBF might limit its actual dependability… but I’ve a cheap drive to test in the meantime.

Now, I've been considering the SATA card route for the MDD lately (and possibly the SSD option), yet with the inexpensive IDE/SATA adapters mentioned by both DieHard and Mactron… this might be an intermediate (quite low cost), step to install, test and possibly use, this resurrected SATA drive (and others), before purchasing a SSD.

The MDD PCI bus is 64 bits or 32 bits and 33 Mhz. this allow a Max bandwidth of 133 MB/s (32 bit) or 266 MB/s (64 bits). All the SATA PCI cards for Mac os 9 are 32 bits. This allow a Max bandwidth of 133 MB/s. This fact and sharing the PCI bus with other cards (like in/out audio and DSP cards) let this SATA cards low room for improvements. The ATA/100 in the MDD is direct connected to the UniNorth. Not sharing PCI bus bandwith allows the IDE/SATA adaptors be a not-so-bad option, and the cheap and easy choice.

I been using for several months −with good results− one like this:

(http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_165213_1.jpg)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-PATA-IDE-TO-Serial-ATA-SATA-Interface-Hard-Drive-Adapter-Converter-/300945676416?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item4611c29880
http://dx.com/p/rxd-629a-parallel-pata-to-serial-sata-hard-disk-converter-green-black-white-165213

It would be interesting to see some test results with those SATA cards against these adaptors.

Anyone ever do that performance comparison? And yes, I’ll probably spring for a copy of iDefrag, eventually.

What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?

Oh, and BTW… Happy Holidays y’all!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Astroman on December 25, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
I've used similiar adapters a lot to convert the Mac ATA side to a Sata drive.
All cheapo/phantasy brand names in the $10-20 price range which all worked without exception.
The only penalty is a couple of more 'folder blinks' while booting (as if the Mac searches the drive, for about 5-10 seconds) after that it starts in a regular way.

Some of these adapters have a small button to flip direction, because they convert both ways.
But no state indicators. Can't remember the proper instruction, but always got them back to work by pressing that button when powering the device.

I have one in a Cube G4 (damn tight to fit in, had to screw the metal cage a bit) with a Transcend 8 GB SSD (an industrial SLC model, still about $120).
Never did a precise benchmark, though. It's speedy, but definitely not blazingly fast.
I assume it's more reliable that current disks with more complex management schemes like MLC or even TLC.

Some very good experiences here with so called disk-on-modules, which are just a plug to the onboard ATA connector. My Pro Tools TDM G3 B/W has a 1GB boot/program setup.
Most such drives range from 1-4 GB and need power (adapter for floppy or disk power sometimes included)
Of course data must be stored on a 2nd drive.

Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on December 26, 2017, 02:58:18 PM
Thanks for the info Astroman. You are “livin-on-the-edge” there a bit, attempting to do anything inside of a Cube. (I think my fingers are too large.) I’ll certainly explore the on-disk modules further.

I’m basically trying to revive this thread a little, so that many new visitors to the forum may become a bit more involved, possibly sharing their exploits (albeit perhaps, some possibly humorous)… and at the same time, get additional info like that which you’ve kindly provided. (And previously provided… concerning the LCD/ADC Studio Display!)

Tip: If you read back in this thread a bit, you might find some very sage advice indeed, about not spilling half-a-beer into one’s keyboard via a voluntary confession. ;)

(I’m not making fun of anyone… especially after my earlier ⌘+Y comment.)

Some folks simply will not let you get away with anything.  ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Astroman on December 26, 2017, 03:49:26 PM
tbh it almost broke my heart to cut the metal cage and tear it a bit to fit everything inside.
(at least the stain isn't visible from outside)

got my 'personal' repair diploma for a MacBook 17" (not mine) on which a glass of wine was spilled, at a time iFixit didn't yet exist. Complete dissection and rebuild took a night.

Apple was really smart with their idea of a sealed keyboard bottom, but to leave open grills for the geeky light sensor. So the (quality) beverage directly found it's way to the CPU... giving it a nice charcoal tan  ;D
All turned out well and the thing kept running - some wine had made it up into the LCD display and was regarded a feature from then on - frequently giving a 'do you remember...' laugh  8)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on December 26, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
Or... after a long day and a seemingly longer night flight home from Chicago... I decided to disassemble an Apple 17" CRT to deep clean/dust it (because it simply could not wait until the next morning). I somehow accidentally "tapped" it with something metal and watched the tube implode in my hands!

Job well done!

Went straight to bed (as I should have done when I first got home).

No TV, NO supper! >:(

⌘+Y!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: GaryN on December 26, 2017, 04:56:50 PM
I'm glad to see you're not complaining.

You "watched a CRT implode in your hands" apparently without receiving an eyeful of glass shards OR a lungful of phosphorus.

Count your blessings Fury. You must have done something good this year.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on December 28, 2017, 09:14:21 AM
Finished the initial blow-out and clean-up of the recently acquired Omaha G4s this morning at around 2 a.m. Both Quicksilvers booted, first attempt.

The three 1.42 GHz MDDs… not quite so lucky. One of those (with rear sticker from der Apple), noted as “reconditioned”. Suspect all, PSUs… but I’ll begin with the reconditioned MDD by checking for voltage at the MOBO… and if sufficiently present, may attempt the run-jumper bypass to negate possible faulty start button. It has a Samsung PSU. I’ll eventually clean that out, inspect the fuse and use it for my first exploratory foray into the Samsungs’ innerworkings (and their prohibitive heatsink configs). If nothing else, line-art mapping of the Samsung PSU and its’ cap locations/specs will become a by-product (here and over with Toasty at the BadCaps forum).

The other two MDDs have AcBel PSUs and simple recapping attempt(s) might be in their near future.

In addition, was finally able to contact Knezzen und now… one of the copper heatsinks will soon be headed his way. Back in August I believe, he mentioned a Sonnet 1.8 GHz MDX that he intended to utilize in building “The World’s Fastest MDD”. Hopefully, with a bit of overclocking, a copper heatsink and maybe Urdvurks’ very cool, custom vent/fan cooling modifications (or other)… GOAL!

“SUNDAY! Seehotfueldragstersblastofftheline! SUNDAY, SUNDAY!”

“Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently…”
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: macStuff on December 29, 2017, 09:59:14 PM
knez is putting the  8) "cool" in "Cooler"
was it mentioned above what brand/make/model this cooler is?
are there many other diff brands/models to choose from that would also work?
interesting idea.. it must be pretty damn good cooler to passively cool a ti4600
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: macStuff on December 29, 2017, 10:00:04 PM
I have actually never tried any beer made in the US :P

you arent missing much! lol
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on December 29, 2017, 11:34:28 PM
knez is putting the  8) "cool" in "Cooler"
was it mentioned above what brand/make/model this cooler is?
are there many other diff brands/models to choose from that would also work?
interesting idea.. it must be pretty damn good cooler to passively cool a ti4600

The GPU cooler is a Zalman VNF100 and it actually works great. And it's quiet ;). Going to try to reach 2ghz with the MDX as soon as I get the MDD copper heatsink from Fury :)

Thanks again, Fury!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on January 13, 2018, 02:32:26 PM
Got the copper heatsink from Fury yesterday along with one dual 1.25ghz CPU card and one dual 1.42ghz CPU card.
Put the copper heatsink on today along with some fresh Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound.
The idle temperature remains the same (around 40C in my 20C cold/hot room), but I'm unable to push it beyond 51C even when running benchmarks over and over again.

A very good result to say the least :).

Thank you once again, Fury!

The CPU cards will be tested and overclocked when I get more time on my hands.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: FdB on January 14, 2018, 10:59:44 AM
Certainly, Knez’s neighbors appreciate all their lights going dim every time he fires up that beast.  :o
Happy here that package made the journey safely! Thank YOU Knez, glad to be a very small part of your project.
Hands Across The Pond. :)

Finally “solved” the one dead QS FireWire port prob here with a TI chipset FW pci card.
(Agere LINK/PHY chipset card, strangely would not work. Won't even boot.)
Now, as long as FW device is plugged in at startup… there it is. Not hot-swappable, even with OS 10.4.6 present.

Anyone have success with Adaptec DuoConnect USB/FW card (AUA-3020? PTI-216N) in an QS?
Won’t even boot when installed on this QS. I’ll try it in an MDD… much later.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: torvan on April 07, 2018, 01:52:50 AM
Finished the install of Tiger on the second partition of my 1 TB SSD.

Copied all the Music, Photos, Videos from my 2008 Pro Server to the third partition of said 1 TB drive.  It took a while, I have just shy of 15,000 songs and 86 videos (Movies and Television shows).

Imported the music into both Tiger's and 9.2.2's iTunes. I know, bad choice in media players but it works for something basic. The videos into Tiger's iTunes 9.

So it was a software day.


Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: twokayprod on July 23, 2018, 04:01:28 AM
Yesterday I welcomed a brandnew old MDD to my little Mac-family and fed him a new harddrive as well as a beautiful fresch installation of OS9. It will be my personal workplace in a small private music school. There will be raised eyebrows, as all the other computers there are PCs, but I'm certain that my grin will prevail. Today I'm gonna make a few minor additions, like installing the driver for the brandnew old Tascam FW1804 I bought for this MDD and do a little recording to see if everything works.
And tomorrow I will browse the net in search for the next family member  :D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: TheGrandPubaa on July 24, 2018, 08:03:32 AM
I put my new Mac Mini back in it's shipping box to await returning since it doesn't work properly, and then looked over at my 1.6GHZ G5 tower that doesn't work with a wistful glint in my eyes. So I guess what I did today was look for one that works.  :-\
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Daniel on October 14, 2018, 03:54:36 PM
Today, my lovely Pismo is helping me learn quite a few painful lessons on how C works.

Most notably, I accidentally used '%n' in a printf format string instead of '%d'. It took quite a bit of debugging to figure out why my code kept crashing :(
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Greystash on October 14, 2018, 05:08:49 PM
Today, my lovely Pismo is helping me learn quite a few painful lessons on how C works.

Most notably, I accidentally used '%n' in a printf format string instead of '%d'. It took quite a bit of debugging to figure out why my code kept crashing :(

Nice one! I've wanted to do that for a long time.. What resources are you using to learn?
I've just set up my PowerBook G4 Al with os 9.2 and it's the absolute best combo of machine/OS I've ever had. So fast! I'm hoping to learn a bit of C on this machine :)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Daniel on October 14, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
Today, my lovely Pismo is helping me learn quite a few painful lessons on how C works.

Most notably, I accidentally used '%n' in a printf format string instead of '%d'. It took quite a bit of debugging to figure out why my code kept crashing :(

Nice one! I've wanted to do that for a long time.. What resources are you using to learn?
I've just set up my PowerBook G4 Al with os 9.2 and it's the absolute best combo of machine/OS I've ever had. So fast! I'm hoping to learn a bit of C on this machine :)
I use Macintosh Programmer's Workshop for developing and building programs.

I've got information from so many different sources it's hard to keep track of it all. I have read physical books, a whole ton of Inside Macintosh pdfs, and quite a few other things.

One of the big things I use is an image of the Apple E.T.O #23 cd, released in 1997. It has a whole bunch of documentation on MPW itself and the various tools it has. I got it from https://www.macintoshrepository.org/12250-apple-e-t-o-essentials-tools-objects-1997-disc-collection (https://www.macintoshrepository.org/12250-apple-e-t-o-essentials-tools-objects-1997-disc-collection).

I am currently limited to writing MPW tools and such. Actually building a proper Macintosh application is such a monumental task that I don't think I will be able to make one anytime soon.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Greystash on October 14, 2018, 06:25:16 PM
Today, my lovely Pismo is helping me learn quite a few painful lessons on how C works.

Most notably, I accidentally used '%n' in a printf format string instead of '%d'. It took quite a bit of debugging to figure out why my code kept crashing :(

Nice one! I've wanted to do that for a long time.. What resources are you using to learn?
I've just set up my PowerBook G4 Al with os 9.2 and it's the absolute best combo of machine/OS I've ever had. So fast! I'm hoping to learn a bit of C on this machine :)
I use Macintosh Programmer's Workshop for developing and building programs.

I've got information from so many different sources it's hard to keep track of it all. I have read physical books, a whole ton of Inside Macintosh pdfs, and quite a few other things.

One of the big things I use is an image of the Apple E.T.O #23 cd, released in 1997. It has a whole bunch of documentation on MPW itself and the various tools it has. I got it from https://www.macintoshrepository.org/12250-apple-e-t-o-essentials-tools-objects-1997-disc-collection (https://www.macintoshrepository.org/12250-apple-e-t-o-essentials-tools-objects-1997-disc-collection).

I am currently limited to writing MPW tools and such. Actually building a proper Macintosh application is such a monumental task that I don't think I will be able to make one anytime soon.

Awesome thanks for that! Yeah it does sound like a huge task..
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: torvan on October 15, 2018, 07:38:28 PM
Moved my 1.25Ghz iMac into the living room, then added a 2TB FW400/800 external to it.  Also added a USB3 to FW800 adapter to the Intel Mac Mini so the FW400/800 drive can load all the music and video!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on September 18, 2019, 12:44:50 AM
Resurrecting an old thread. Put the MDD back up on the desk yesterday and fell in love with it all over again.
It's amazing how a computer made in 2002 still manages to fulfill my computering needs so well.

It has more or less been my main machine since 2006 or so when I first bought it (quite cheaply at the time thanks to the Intel switch making PowerPC Macs plummet in value).
I bought it for $600 complete with a 20" ADC cinema display, Pro keyboard and mouse. A steal at the time. Dual 1ghz G4's, 1GB RAM, ATi Radeon 9000, 120GB 7200RPM harddrive, Sonnet USB 2.0 card. Now it has dual 2ghz G4's, 2GB RAM, GeForce 4 Ti4600, SeriTek 64bit PCI SATA card, SATA SSD, Sonnet USB 2.0 card, the D-Link BlueTooth USB dongle that works in Mac OS 9.2.2.

AN AWESOME MACHINE!

I was so happy that I made quite some progress coding on MacTorrent and started working on a new software project as well. I'm back with the Mac! :)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Philgood on September 18, 2019, 04:19:34 AM
Holy smoke!!! That is quite a upgraded monster!

Didn't you lately also switched back to old protools in the studio?
How is it going ?
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on September 18, 2019, 07:07:29 AM
Yeah, it's quite alright to say the least ;)

I did intended to switch back to Pro Tools TDM 5.1.3 in the studio, but I never got the time to make it happen.
Hopefully this winter :)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: MacFox on September 19, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
Currently using my PM G4 to browse the web.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: torvan on September 23, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
Took my MacMini G4 1.25 Ghz out of storage and connected an Aluminum 23" LCD to it, installed the OS9 version for it, and am restoring from the FW400 backup.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Halian on October 22, 2019, 04:27:40 AM
I found Mozin, my 1.25 GHz eMac, in a corner of the garage after several months of not even being able to remember whether I brought it with me in the move. I opened it up, towel-dusted it off, replaced the known-bad hard drive with another I had of the same model… which also turned out to be bad. So I ordered a 120 GB drive (and a new PRAM battery) off of Amazon, and I got a 180 GB one. Normally I'd be happy, but I was going to try my hand at putting OS 9 on it (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4361.0.html), and I think 180 GB is too large.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Mat on November 29, 2019, 08:54:07 AM
I got a 180 GB one. Normally I'd be happy, but I was going to try my hand at putting OS 9 on it (http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4361.0.html), and I think 180 GB is too large.
Just for the records; usually formatting such a drive to the onboard controller supported size (128GB, 137GB) is possible without any problems. It is just that you cannot use the additional 32 GB. Lowendmac.com has some nice articles online about it, for example.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: GigaG on November 29, 2019, 05:50:40 PM
I pulled my indigo 500Mhz iMac G3 back out and I'm currently posting from it.

I also have a 1GHz 17" PowerBook G4 which I want to put OS 9 on (it seems to be unofficially supported by some voodoo y'all have done here) but it requires a new optical drive first.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: GorfTheChosen on February 11, 2020, 08:28:53 AM
Dug the Power Mac 8100 out from under the desk in the studio, put it up on top next to the 9600, and proceed to hook up a keyboard, mouse, monitor and power cables and tried to start it up for the first time in over 15 years.

Booted up on the first try ... 8) ... but I couldn't see the desktop because I couldn't remember what resolutions the onboard video supported and I had the Belkin video signal adapter set wrong and the monitor wasn't showing a picture. Once I got that sorted out no problemo.

Turns out it was last running OS 8.6 ... which felt rather snappy.

Of course, it does have a Sonnet Crescendo G3/266 card in it and I'm sure that helped.

Now I just need to figure whether I want to do anything about the Micropolis 4421 2GB drive that's in it.

I find the similarity to a dentist's drill somewhat annoying ...  ::)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Europa on February 12, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
Earlier this week I completed a complete redo of the way I store data on external hard disks. My G4 is the machine that everything else hooks into to run backups, so it saw almost three days straight of run-time backing up everything.  :o

I also created a thank you card using Print Shop Deluxe to a friend who gave me a box of cameras to add to my collection.

Really my G4 holds the duty of being a file server most of the time and I also use it for tasks that would require paid software on newer machines.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Bolkonskij on February 21, 2020, 12:49:33 AM
Doing some HTML authoring using BBedit. Using GraphicConverter (which I registered back then and still love!) for editing the graphic files. Meanwhile listening to some internet radio via Sound Jam. Whoever says MacOS9 cannot be used productively anymore has no idea.

(and non-Mac related drinking a cup of good coffee. Life is good, I tell ya! :) )
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on February 21, 2020, 06:07:59 AM
i am currently "downgrading" my custom 3d-audio applications (10-channel ambisonics) which are currently hosted on an XServe, so that they run on an MacOS9 G4.

quite difficult because of the rigid CPU limit. everything has to be broken into smaller parts, which then can only be used one after another.

composing and mixing with this system has to happen almost totally in nonrealtime now.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: torvan on February 22, 2020, 12:42:21 PM
Well, put a Samsung EVO 850 500gb into my Quicksilver 2002 dual 1.0 machine, and two Crucial MX 500 (500gb and a 1 TB model) into my 2003 G4 1.25.

The G4 MDD got a Sonnet Tempo SATA Controller, whereas the Quicksilver 2002 is getting a IDE to SATA adapter. 

Right now, on the MDD, 10.5.8 is on the 1 TB drive, and the 500GB is about to get the 9.2.2 install.

The Quicksilver will be done much later today.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on February 22, 2020, 06:38:27 PM
Sounds like some fun projects there torvan! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: GorfTheChosen on February 23, 2020, 11:28:04 AM
Have been trying to get the Power Mac 9600/350 with the Sonnet G4/450 running stable.

Lots of random freezes and hangs ... suspecting it might memory related.

I had ran MemTest with extensions on and was getting occasional errors, now I need to run it with extensions off and see if they persist.

Update: Looks like its one (or more) bad memory sticks. Pulled all but two (or four ?) ... and am getting no errors regardless of what INITs are loaded.

Now just a matter of isolating which DIMMs are good and which are bad.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: GorfTheChosen on February 24, 2020, 09:26:41 AM
Have narrowed down the RAM issue somewhat, two DIMMs have been definitely identified as being problematic.

Reinstalled what appeared to be good RAM (1.25 gigabytes) and ran TestMem overnight with only the Sonnet Processor INIT enabled.

Still got 14 errors though (had gotten hundreds of errors with the bad RAM installed) ... so further extended testing appears warranted.

Will remove half the RAM and do another overnight run and see what that turns up.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on February 26, 2020, 02:34:14 AM
Doing some coding on the sofa using my TiBook running 9.2.2. Connected to the router using AirPort and running on battery power for the last hour or so. The control strip is indicating that I have one and a half hours of operating time left on the battery. Fairly good for what looks to be an original Apple  branded battery ;)

And of course I'm writing this on that very machine. life is good!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: kharm on February 26, 2020, 04:35:38 AM
I made a little cello part for my 8 yr old daughter (one of the Frozen 2 songs!)  ::)

In Cubase.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on February 27, 2020, 08:39:36 AM
ordered an ADC to VGA adapter so that i can connect 3 monitors without the need of a third graphics card.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on February 27, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
Added another MDD to my 'machine room' rack... taking the opportunity to re-route some of the spaghetti mess into a more organized mess! Everything going into my patchbays to ensure that NOTHING works properly now!! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: GorfTheChosen on February 27, 2020, 01:46:02 PM
More testing and debugging, made Disk Copy image back ups of over 100 floppies ... probably still have another 100 still to go at least.

Still left to do: install one of the two 40 x 40 x 10 ball-bearing fans into the ADS Firewire drive case so that thing will stop incessantly whining at me. Also try to remember what the second fan I ordered was for.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Jacques on June 30, 2020, 01:12:44 PM
Necro posting...

Installed OS9 on the 1.42 mac mini and finished the first level of Tomb Raider 1. Also have Flashback ready to install and run. Will check out ArchiCAD 5 and 6 on the weekend.

Went to bed and browsed eBay for QS and MDD machines....I want one! 
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on July 15, 2020, 02:55:00 PM
this week i sorted a few files.

in numbers:

data compressed and decompressed: about 15 TB
data tranferred in LAN: about 10 TB
antivirus scanned under windows: about 8 TB
data moved: 6.1 TB
data deleted from trashes: about 8 TB
files renamed: more than 18,000
BD-RE DL burnt: 22

took almost 7 days.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on July 15, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
Still left to do: install one of the two 40 x 40 x 10 ball-bearing fans into the ADS Firewire drive case so that thing will stop incessantly whining at me.

which one did you choose? that is also on my to do list. for all enclosures and desktop macs.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Europa on July 16, 2020, 06:35:13 AM
Planning on updating my website today (I use my iBook and Dreamweaver to work on my site) :)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on July 17, 2020, 10:47:08 AM
I use the free Wi-Fi in the city center. Then I copy from Android 9 to Windows 10. Then I copy to Windows XP. Then I convert to something that can be used on OS 9. Then I archive everything on OS 9. Then I have to read everything and make a list of what I want to copy next and one of these days I go the other way round.

I don't use one computer for everything. I use my computers in chain in 2 directions. Step up or downgrade.

My Windows 10 notebook is now fully installed with new drivers. I have to convert MHTML to HTML or PDF. I have to convert PDFs to version 1.4.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Halian on November 08, 2020, 11:42:59 PM
Opened up my iBook G3 to replace the thermal pads on the CPU and GPU with thermal paste. Now it won't shut (highspots under the trackpad on both sides) and the display backlight doesn't come on. Augggggggggggggggggggh.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Bolkonskij on November 09, 2020, 09:09:19 AM
Replaced the PSU in my MDD. The original AcBel one died with lots of smoke and sparking sounds. Luckily I had a Samsung replacement ready. Maybe it's me but I think the dreaded psu fans in the Samsung PSU is less noisy than the AcBel ones. May be wishful thinking though.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on November 24, 2020, 04:59:26 AM
Started working on some new software yesterday. Will continue today. Mac OS Classic forever! :)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on November 24, 2020, 06:20:37 AM
Go Knez Go!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: jmanrunner on December 28, 2020, 01:05:29 PM
I installed a gl.inet Microrouter N300 so I can connect my G4 9.2.2 to Wi-Fi on a secure WPA2 connection instead of WEP. There are no Ethernet connections near my G4. I had to minimally configure the gl.inet on my modern Mac but when the router reboots the Wi-Fi autoconnects. No need to manage the connection. Configure the SSID and password that's it.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Pyewacket on May 20, 2021, 04:04:52 PM
I use my mac mini running Classic most days to process art for use in a graphical chat community. (I seriously need something to run MacOS 9 natively lol preferably a laptop since I have way too many computers/monitors in my workspace)

I use Graphic Converter v6.5.2 to convert the bmp files the artists create to pict files to bring into Macromedia Director 4.04 to create the file that I then run through a proprietary program we have to convert the director file to a file I can upload to the database for use in the ‘game’ (members do play games there, but it’s also a chat community)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Bolkonskij on May 21, 2021, 07:07:44 AM
Processing some movies for cornica.org, meanwhile listening to web radio via SoundJam and occasionally chatting with my facebook friends via the IRC2Facebook bridge. Who says you can't get things done with "old Macs / OSes"? It's all a matter of knowing how and some flexibility :)

Granted, this is one of the moments I'd love to have true multi-tasking for faster app switching but then I look at the downsides of it ... nah, I live happier this way.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Architecture on June 28, 2021, 07:11:19 PM
For my G4 Power Mac QuickSilver.

3 120GB SSDs, 2 internal attached to the ATA/66 bus until I find a better solution that doesnt cost 1 million dollars, and a FireWire 120GB drive.

Picked up a 36GB Ultra 160 SCSI drive and APD-29160 controller for under 100 bucks. Its a spinner and not solid state but I want to see if a 64bit PCI card that was considered high end for this machine makes an appreciable difference in operation.

Installed 10.5.4 to see if Live 8 would run on this machine. Which it does, but will either need to go to 10.4.11 or find an older version that better ultilizes resources.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: damo-blak on June 30, 2021, 04:52:28 PM
been messing about on my g4 mini,
so I installed Cubase Audio XT 3.0.
the crack worked and it ran fine.
------------------
installed a Edirol fa-101 soundcard,
installed cubase 4,software crashes
on loading screen
when run after install!.

Try cubase 5 vst,
install works fine,crash after
install,gonna keep trying:-)
got a Midex8 to install tomorrow when
I get time..........
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on July 06, 2021, 10:31:10 AM
I renumbered OSM maps in several passes using little memory. It worked even with 15 MB.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: DieHard on July 06, 2021, 06:07:32 PM
Quote
Try cubase 5 vst,
install works fine,crash after
install,gonna keep trying:-)
got a Midex8 to install tomorrow when
I get time..........

It's crashing because of the stock "ASIO" driver!!!, you must move it from the ASIO folder and copy only the ASIO file for the Interface you are using,
the "Built-in" sound has many issues as explained including crashing any app using an AISO drive that is trying to access it

Quote
Well the Instant DAW would require too many CDs; the way I installed it on the Mini (assumes you have 2 macs) was...
1) Boot the Mini in target mode
2) Connect to a working OS 9 unit that has:
     a) instant DAW files already downloaded on it
     b) The famous Ross mini CD image mounted on desktop
3) Run instant DAW and pick the mini's hard drive (connected via "target mode" as an external HD) as the destination drive
4) remove the newly created "multi-processing folder" under the extensions on the mini
5) copy from the Ross image to the mini hd:
     a) the ROM file
     b) any ATI extensions (delete the current ATI extensions on the mini)

Now you can boot to mini, but remove the ASIO drivers (BEFORE you attempt to launch Cubase) on the mini under the Cubase/ASIO and install firewire ASIO or USB ASIO for a working interface under OS 9, the stock system sound ASIO drivers will lock up Cubase and they are unusable

Lastly, if you just have the mini only: (no other OS 9 unit)
1) make 2 partitions
2) Install ROSS CD on Partition 2
3) Boot to partition 2 and follow the instructions above to create the instant DAW on the first partition
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: damo-blak on July 11, 2021, 02:07:48 AM
cheers die hard:-)

yeah i copied the asio driver for my fa-101 into the asio folder,
but i have to admit i didnt get much time to trouble shoot it.
I will have a look later if i can get to the studio,i might have left
the old asio driver in place too that could definitely be the cause
,thank you so much for your help!.

I find it a challenge to get these old machines running,
OMS is something I am not too familiar with also,its good to learn
more about how the old system works:-)

I remember that people thought I was nuts running snow leopard
on my macs most of the time in the past when much newer Os's were out,now im going even
more back in time,lol!.
 
one of my friends was using a classic with his emu emulator II,
now that old mac was a really interesting machine.

Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on July 11, 2021, 11:59:21 AM
OMS setup is mostly automatic but still hard to grasp what happens and why.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: damo-blak on August 07, 2021, 04:39:31 PM
I got rid of some files from the Asio Directory,
it worked no more crashing,thanks for that die hard:)

got cubase 4 and 5 working now,
just a few problems with my roland soundcard driver to iron out now!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: DieHard on August 09, 2021, 10:54:49 AM
Excellent :)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: lepidotos on August 18, 2021, 11:41:49 AM
I'm using it right now to use OS9L. I'm using Safari (since this laptop has Cheetah), so it was either this or an acmlmboard forum. Can't really do a whole lot with 10.3.9, and I've been trying to install 9.2 for the last few days, and if I get there I'll install Tiger and switch between the two whenever I need to. 9 is still my favorite, it's just that Classilla doesn't really like many websites anymore and a few games were 10 only (SimCity 4 comes to mind). My unique circumstances mean that for modern day tasks, this laptop is my best option. Otherwise, I could always use the Pentium II with 96 megabytes of RAM sitting to its immediate left. I like that computer, but its CD drive doesn't work and it doesn't have any USB drivers for me to get stuff on it, so I have no way to put stuff on it besides piping things over through floppies, which I at least do have a box of.
Might try out the new version of Haiku for fun later on down the line. I have it installed on an old Dell Inspiron that's sitting in a self-storage right now, but that install is beta 2 and I've been itching to try B3 out.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on September 09, 2021, 07:04:15 AM
gotta rebuild a bunch of old audio plug-ins and one of my VST hosts to make the code more efficient and more compatible with future... pardon: current systems.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on September 09, 2021, 09:57:08 AM
I’m writing a program that deletes attributes from HTML files. You make a settings file like this:
Code: [Select]
td:valign
img:alt,width,height
p:class
and then it deletes those attributes at the highest speed.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Rosetta on September 09, 2021, 05:22:52 PM
Finally finished this minimal techno remix of a friend's track that I've been poring over for the past few days. Turned out very nice. Currently moving it over to my (modern) MacBook for mastering.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: lepidotos on November 01, 2021, 11:28:50 PM
My PowerPC Macs are my main computers, so any computing tasks I do, I do through either them or my cheap, terrible cell phone, but the phone is only on YouTube and router duty because the web on phones sucks. I'm writing this post right now on my iBook G3 booted into 9.2.2, honestly astounded by the fact it reports another 39 minutes of battery life left, about an hour overall. I should get an SSD in it sometime to try to get that number even higher before I get around to repacking the battery, which I want to get done at some point, this laptop is probably my favorite laptop I've ever used. Though, I am considering eventually coming into a posession of a 14" G4 1.42 and using that for OS X, leaving this one for OS 9... I'll have to see if I can get one under $60.
The iMac is currently being used to draw graphics and access more strenuous, JS-heavy websites that even 10.4Fx couldn't handle. Stuff like Google web-apps and all that, but I feel like something is wrong with it because A. it's strangely sluggish compared to even Tiger on my other machines that are generally considered not super amazing Tiger computers (or YouTube videos of iMac G5s running Linux) even on lightweight WMs like IceWM, and B. it has a strange RAM reading of 1870 MB... which I can't really seem to make with any combination of common RAM sizes.
On the PMG4 front, a couple days ago, I got a GeForce4 MX 440 that was pulled from probably a QS, that said it was a working unit, and technically it booted when I threw it in my G4 with higher refresh rates and resolutions (sure, the MX 440 isn't a great card, but it's better than the Rage 128 with a whole 8 MB VRAM that probably is broken because I can't find reference online to anyone else that has an 8 MB Rage 128 card) but Quake III wouldn't run and trying to install the Nvidia drivers in OS 9 makes it freeze during boot. Also, blue and yellow lines show up all over the screen. So I wouldn't exactly call it "working", the most benefit of the doubt I can give it is that it got bumped in the mail. $15 I suppose could have been far worse, but it'd have been nice to receive a card I can install and forget.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on November 03, 2021, 11:32:36 AM
I wrote a C++ program which searches multiple strings and replaces them in one pass. I had already such a program, but this one is better and comes in 4 versions (case (in)sensitive, diacritics (in)sensitive). It’s faster and it calculates how much memory it needs instead of asking an upper limit.

I finished the conversion of all my HTML pages to C macros, and that’s almost 1600 pages. Much could be done by one of my programs, but it required many manual corrections.

I maintain now 780 finished projects.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on November 13, 2021, 02:28:30 AM
I figured out how Finder stores the window view settings.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on December 22, 2021, 06:51:48 AM
I made a few memes with Photoshop.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on December 22, 2021, 07:54:51 AM
Nice OS923!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: mrhappy on December 22, 2021, 07:59:05 AM
Tracked some acoustic GEEEtar... adding a vocal later today. My daughter wanted me to record a version of the Leonard Cohen tune  'Halelujah' for a Christmas gift. ;D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Petros90 on March 03, 2022, 02:04:59 PM
I finally cracked how to boot between OS9.2.2, OSX Panther and OSX Tiger on my G3 B&W.

- Using a preconfigured SSD supplied by FdB all the way from the USA - which originally would not boot back into OS9.
Solution after much head-cudgelling was to replace the System Folder with a new one

Today's head-cudgelling -

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,6225.0.html



Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: lepidotos on March 08, 2022, 05:16:57 PM
(https://images.macintosh.garden/2022/03/09/Lepi.png)
This image will only look weird to some of you. Also, the 640x480 windowboxing is anmoying, but it's just a driver thing. Now this iBook is triple-booting 9.2.2, Jaguar, and Tiger, but it still needs drivers and to go through the first boot setup.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: adrianrmarsh on March 10, 2022, 03:43:01 AM
Having realised that I was unhappy with having both Mac OS 9.2.2 and Mac OS X 10.4.11 on one HD (as a result of a complicated reinstall a while back), I took the plunge and erased the HD, partitioned it and reinstalled Mac OS 9.2.2 (UK edition) and Mac OS X 10.2.8, to see the difference between that and 10.4.11, which worked quite well, but was a tad slow really. I have found a DVD/CD drive for my Pismo that actually reads CD's, so after years of having only DVD's to use as install disks, I was able to install 10.2 from my own previous disks and back-ups from way back when. It's nice (though only as a change, briefly from OS 9), though the Mail app is not able to connect at this point (which may make me go up to 10.3 or back to 10.4, as I do like to use email on my vintage Pismo and only with a dual boot, OS X machine do I find that possible to connect to my Mac dot com mail).
Having done all that, I then turned to writing a short history of Romani and Traveller people in Wales for a cultural heritage project I'm working on with the Welsh government, all in Office 2001. Not bad for a twenty-two year-old laptop!
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: OS923 on March 10, 2022, 10:58:38 AM
I got an aversion to REALbasic and I removed everything that reminds me of it after I saw that a simple TCP connection was crawling at 200 K/s.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: rvense on March 11, 2022, 11:46:13 AM
Got my Sawtooth booting again (seems some RAM had gone back), put in an RME HDSP card and a Powercore. Not really sure how I feel about the Powercore. It's not that the effects sound bad, they're just not very versatile or creative.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: DieHard on March 11, 2022, 02:57:47 PM
Not really sure how I feel about the Powercore. It's not that the effects sound bad, they're just not very versatile or creative.

Yes, no real VIs and the Powercore 01 is not very inspiring...
However, the Powercore has one of the best compressors in the OS9 (24/7 C), awesome reverbs, and modulation; all of which, use up almost none of the Mac's CPU

And of course, the Master X3, if your lucky enough under Mac OS 9, is hands down, the best mastering MutiBand Compressor

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,1146.0.html

More stuff on Master X3:

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2191.0.html
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: IIO on March 11, 2022, 03:54:37 PM
its purpose is to do the bread and butter stuff there, with the result that you have your native CPU cycles free for the creative things.

also, it is basically the only proper traditional GEQ plug-in available for OS9.
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on March 27, 2022, 08:24:12 AM
Coding and listening to some web radio on my MDD while I'm writing this. It's a good old OS 9 sunday in Sweden ;)
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Jubadub on February 29, 2024, 12:31:56 AM
"What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?"

Nothing much of a big deal, just coding some test projects in the first pre-release of REALbasic 1.0 (F1), and seeing how compatible it is with its predecessor, CrossBasic, which can compile not just 68k/PPC GUI apps from the same code base, but also even Java (unlike any REALbasic version). The answer? Very compatible, you can straight up use the REALbasic F1 docs and then switch over to CrossBasic and type the code you see in.

Too bad there's only an early developer version of it floating around (DR1r7) instead of anything newer, although I noticed Garden's @gingerbeardman's Japanese Magazine CD dumps have newer versions of it (DR1r22 and an unspecified "DR1" release) flying around, which I plan to try out soon.

Did I ever say how much REALbasic kicks ass? It kicks SERIOUS ass, especially 5.5.5, it went on to show how much of a joke mainstream dev tools really are in comparison (ahem, in many ways, but not all). Yet, REALbasic is such an underdog fame-wise, especially outside the Mac context. Perhaps if they didn't ditch away Mac OS support as early as they did, they would have had better success. ;) ;)

I wish I had tried REALbasic sooner than this. I'm really late to the ride. But man, what a nice breeze this ride gives!

Essentially, what makes it so great is that if you DO want to make something, but you don't have the time, OR mood, to set up a whole C app, just quickly slap it together with REALbasic. And automagically targets WHAT?! Mac OS, OS X, Windows and x86 GNU/Linux. And that too NATIVELY, no runtime or VM bullshit. Just unbelievable. (GNU one does require QT 2.0+ and some other crap that is often already there by default, however).
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: torvan on March 06, 2024, 01:33:19 PM
Installed a new SATA drive and ran the OS9Lives setup on my Quicksilver Dual 1.0Ghz. Now doing the file copy off the spinning disk SATA. . . . which will take 2 hours according to Finder. . . .
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: StarExplorer on March 06, 2024, 07:24:23 PM
I upgraded my mouse today :D I had been using the circular "puck" mouse from the iMac G3. I went to my storage unit today to get an old Power Mac of mine, and dug around a little and found a clear Pro Mouse, which I only have the vaguest memory of even having. TBH, I didn't remember that I had one. It's definitely taking some getting used to, but at least I don't have to look at it anymore in order to know which way it's oriented LOL. Now I don't have to buy one like I almost did hahaha :D
Title: Re: What did you do with your PowerPC Mac today?
Post by: Knezzen on March 22, 2024, 12:38:52 AM
Edited the latest episode of my car podcast on my MDD in Pro Tools TDM 5.1.3cs11. Love that rig :)