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Title: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: macboy on January 14, 2014, 05:30:38 AM
Anyone have any training/tutorial material to share regarding Digital Performer 3 on OS 9?  It's pretty daunting for a first time user.  PDFs, eBooks, DVD rips, YouTube videos, even the DP3 manual would be nice...
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 14, 2014, 02:25:28 PM
i totally agree and am also interested in this.
i will see what i can find. I think i have a manual for DP4 only at the moment but alot of the concepts are the same!
i will post this here asap
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 14, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
some links to learning materials for sale:
http://www.amazon.ca/Producing-Music-Digital-Performer-Newhouse/dp/0876390564
http://www.motu.com/products/software/dp/training/atnewsitem.2004-12-07.0487566579
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Performer-Introductory-Course-Brockmann/dp/B007ET9J20

this is the best one ive got and its for dp5.. but like i said i think alot of it applies to 3 i will try to find something more specified for 3

1st version entitled "Digital performer power!" (no number, but based on 4)
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Performer-Power-Steve-Thomas/dp/1592000665/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389823518&sr=1-5&keywords=digital+performer+4

2nd version entitled "digital performer 5 power!" (based on 5,duh)
http://www.macos9lives.com/downloads/manuals/dp/DP5PowerEbook.pdf

3rd version entitled "digital performer 6 power!"
http://www.macos9lives.com/downloads/manuals/dp/DP6PowerEbook.pdf
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 14, 2014, 05:16:17 PM
i think its possible that they never created a pdf version for 2.7 or 3..
i have just checked hte original install disks and was unable to find

have u tried using the help baloons feature inside the program?
its quite good.. and informative to learn in this way by pointing at things and reading the baloons
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: macboy on January 14, 2014, 06:47:23 PM
Excellent - Thanks for the DP5 eBook!  The balloon help thing is kinda hit and miss.  It's good if you already know basically what you're doing...

I discovered that Sound on Sound ran a series of articles every month starting in April of 2001 on Digital Performer:
http://www.soundonsound.com/Contents.php?Month=4&Year=2001

The first article is on "Polar".  They continue every month for years.  Looks like 2001-2002 is about DP3(?).
There's also an index with links to the various years/month's issues at the bottom of the above link.  The column is called "Performer Notes" and is under the "Techniques" section of the magazine each month.  Looks like some great information.
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 14, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
i was just watching a video tutorial on polar that i just uploaded and can link

(http://www.macos9lives.com/downloads/_img/dp3_help)

ive just done some googling + compiled this list:

keep in mind:
digital performer 3 (os9) - introduced summer 2001
digital performer 4 (osx) - introduced late spring 2003
digital performer 5 (osx) - introduced spring 2006

2001
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr01/articles/performernotes.htm - confirmed as first in the series of articles
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may01/articles/performernotes.asp | POLAR, FreeMIDI & OMS
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun01/articles/performernotes.htm | Propellerhead's Rewire
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul01/articles/performernotes0701.htm | Memory Cycle Function
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug01/articles/motunotes0801.asp | Clipping Window; VST Freeware plug-ins; Setting Up Side-chain
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep01/articles/performnotes0901.asp | DP plug-ins; USB hardware controller
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct01/articles/performnotes.asp | New Tool Bar and Graphical Editing Options
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov01/articles/performnotes1101.asp | Sequence Editor; Audio Bundles
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec01/articles/performnotes1201.asp | MIDI Automation Features

2002
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan02/articles/performnotes0102.asp | Drum Editor; MAS for DP3
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb02/articles/performnotes0202.asp | Drum Editor; VST Wrapper v3
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/performnotes0302.asp | Drum Editor window
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr02/articles/performnotes0402.asp | DP3 Plug-ins; MW Limiter
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may02/articles/performnotes0502.asp | MasterWorks Limiter and Quan Jr
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun02/articles/performnotes0602.asp | MasterWorks Gate and other software synths
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul02/articles/performnotes0702.asp | Built-in plug-in Delay
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug02/articles/performernotes0802.asp | Creative Uses Of MAS Plug-ins
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep02/articles/performnotes0902.asp | DP3 MS Decoder
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct02/articles/performnotes1002.asp | MOTU on OS X; Search Facility
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov02/articles/performernotes1102.asp | Search Multiple Criteria
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec02/articles/performnotes1202.asp | DP3.1 update

2003
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan03/articles/performnotes0103.asp | Unlimited Undo
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb03/articles/performnotes0203.asp | Project & File Management Facilities
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar03/articles/performernotes0303.asp | Audio File-handling
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr03/articles/performernotes0403.asp | MachFive; OS X; Track Groups
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may03/articles/performnotes0503.asp | DP4 / MachFive / latest MAS plug-ins
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun03/articles/performernotes0603.asp | OS X Version
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul03/articles/performernotes0703.asp | DP4 and OS X
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug03/articles/performernotes.htm |  using multiple audio interfaces with DP3 / OS X patchlist format / Waveform Editor
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep03/articles/performernotes.htm | DP4.1 available | vst support in dp4.1 under osx
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct03/articles/performernotes.htm | Waves' quality plug-ins now available for DP
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov03/articles/performernotes.htm | DP 4.1 is here at last,
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec03/articles/performernotes.htm | FXpansion's indispensable VST to AU Adapter.

2004
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec04/articles/performernotes.htm

2005
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/performnotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov05/articles/performernotes.htm
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec05/articles/performernotes.htm

Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 15, 2014, 01:28:35 AM
http://www.amazon.com/DP-Digital-Performer-User-Guide/dp/B000QEBXYW  -afro-
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 15, 2014, 01:33:03 AM
http://www.online-teach.com/dig-per.php

some 2.7 version movie tutorials  on this page..
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: macboy on January 15, 2014, 07:24:06 AM
Fantastic resources.  Thanks!   :) :) :) :) :) :)

I'm intrigued by, "i was just watching a video tutorial on polar that i just uploaded and can link".

Didn't see the link...(?)   ;)
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 15, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
its a video thats included on the original 2.7 dp cd
instead of posting the video ill worry about posting the 2.7 + 3.0 original discs
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 16, 2014, 03:23:45 AM
Fantastic resources.  Thanks!   :) :) :) :) :) :)

I'm intrigued by, "i was just watching a video tutorial on polar that i just uploaded and can link".

Didn't see the link...(?)   ;)

http://www.macos9lives.com/downloads/manuals/dp/videos/makinDanceMusic.mov
http://www.macos9lives.com/downloads/manuals/dp/videos/usingPOLAR.mov
http://www.macos9lives.com/downloads/manuals/dp/videos/dp4&reasonTutorial_MacAudioLab.com.mov
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: macboy on January 17, 2014, 07:38:52 AM
Great thanks for all that!  However..., some slight problems - not sure if it's me or what:

I can only get the last video to work, "DP4 & Reason Tutorial".  The other two, nothing.

Also, I can't get ANY of the videos to play from your previous link at http://www.online-teach.com/dig-per.php.  Just get a blank white pop-up screen that hangs.  Same on Firefox or Safari, using Intel Mac w/10.6.8.

Same results also on my PPC G5 running Tiger.

Shame, 'cause they all sound promising...
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on January 17, 2014, 08:02:12 AM
yea the vtc.com movies seems like one of their servers is offline.. or the contents been removed

re the other two movies its possible they arent actually .mov format they could be .avi or another format
i think i actually added the extension because they were on the cd.. when i clicked them with no extension they just played automatically but i dont know what format
they actually are then
i assumed they were .mov because the 3rd one was .mov but now that i think of it the 3rd one came from the dp4 cd and the other two from the dp3 or dp2.7
either way its a real bitch to find anything prior to dp 5 as far as learning materials go

12/1/2000 dp2.7
9/1/2001 dp3
5/3/2003 dp4
4/6/2006 dp5

these are the rough dates i have for timeline for the different versions of dp.. they could be a bit off but it serves as a rough guideline..
dp3 was current for a good lone time from sept 2001- may 2003 u would think it would be easier to find stuff on dp3



Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: macboy on January 18, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
Ah, ok.

Interesting, even if I change the extension to avi, mp4, etc, I still can't get them to play.  Even VLC (v0.9.10), which usually plays anything, gives me the error message, "No suitable decoder module.  VLC does not support the audio or video format 'twos'."  Doing a little Googling, it appears that "twos" is some weird JVC camera codec(?).

Anyway, maybe if you get a disk image of the whole disk uploaded at some point, I'll be able to watch it from that...

Thanks for your efforts!  The pdf DP5 ebook you linked to earlier is helping me a lot!  Amazing how similar DP5 still is to DP3.
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: pacatos on April 06, 2014, 03:53:57 PM
I have Muska Lipman's DIGITAL PERFORMER 4 IGNITE eBook, but my version is on the much-maligned CHM format (thought you can open these easily with apps like iChm, which AFAIK will work on PPC as well).

Link of the book at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Audition-Ignite-Eric-Grebler/dp/1592004296/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1396824559&sr=1-1

If you guys have any interest, please let me know and aid me on uploading this.  ;D
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on April 06, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
I have Muska Lipman's DIGITAL PERFORMER 4 IGNITE eBook, but my version is on the much-maligned CHM format (thought you can open these easily with apps like iChm, which AFAIK will work on PPC as well).

If you guys have any interest, please let me know and aid me on uploading this.  ;D

I would like to play with DP but only know playing in protools and logic. Looking forward your book!
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on April 06, 2014, 06:20:48 PM
If you guys have any interest, please let me know and aid me on uploading this.  ;D

any files under 64mb u can attach to a post on the forum check the options below when u make a post
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: pacatos on April 06, 2014, 06:37:17 PM
any files under 64mb u can attach to a post on the forum check the options below when u make a post

OK, there it is!
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on July 16, 2014, 01:59:27 AM
is there a way to view .chm on the mac?

http://books.google.ca/books?id=U_7I85JtyxkC&pg=PA234&lpg=PA234&dq=Producing+Music+with+Digital+Performer&source=bl&ots=sol4R_hNY1&sig=QWHYLgif2baUN6cJdc0DE-Zuy2M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fT7GU6HoEYKtyASTh4DgBg&ved=0CIEBEOgBMAo#v=onepage&q=Producing%20Music%20with%20Digital%20Performer&f=false

this book is offered on teh motu site for 30$
but its on v4 for osx
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: Syntho on July 16, 2014, 06:18:58 AM
We need the DP3 manual, and we need the Unisyn manual too. Speaking of that, we need to somehow get the 3.1 update for Performer working...
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on July 16, 2014, 06:24:56 AM
We need the DP3 manual, and we need the Unisyn manual too. Speaking of that, we need to somehow get the 3.1 update for Performer working...

roger roger and roger;)
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on July 24, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
if anyone has any idea where i can buy a motu user manual for dp3.. plz step forward with this info!
Title: Re: Digital Performer 3 training/tutorials?
Post by: supernova777 on July 26, 2014, 08:24:32 AM
i think i found a copy of the manual for sale.. for a decent price. around 20$+ sh
i still cant believe motu never made this available as a pdf.