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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Plugins (VST,TDM,RTAS,MAS) => Digital Audio Workstations & MIDI Applications => Steinberg => Topic started by: neurocrash on July 09, 2018, 08:39:51 PM
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Hi,
I am wondering if anyone can help me with the installation of Steinberg VSTs, specifically, The Grand and Virtual Guitarist. If this isn't the appropriate place to get help, please send me a private message if you can assist.
I burned The Grand cds, but when I put one in the drive it says "the disk The Grand cannot be used because it cannot be found" then ejects the disk. This happens with all three disks.
Virtual Guitarist fails the CD disk check.
I'm using a G4 MDD with os9.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi,
The posted cd images for Steinberg's "The Grand" in the download area seem to be the Windows version, or at least I can't get os9 or osx to see anything but the windows executables and dat files. Do you think it is possible that these are the wrong images?
Thanks
The CD's are "Windows only", the Mac Os 9 installer is on separate download file called:
The_Grand_1.05_OS_9.sit
installation Instructions:
− Record CD1 to a real CD and mount it on the Desktop.
− Run the Mac Os 9 installer
− Copy the contents of CD2 and CD3 on the folder where the plugin is installed (or create a new one where you wish).
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Hi,
I had not been able to insert the burned CD1 because as soon as I do so, finder opens an alert box that says:
"The disk "THEGRAND_1" cannot be used, because it cannot be found".
When I click ok the cd is immediately ejected.
The same thing occurs with CD2 and CD3 whether burned or mounted with Toast.
I was only able to keep the CDs from being ejected by installing the Joliet file system.
http://www.tempel.org/joliet/
After mounting burned CD1 and installing with The_Grand_1.05_OS_9.sit, I tried copying the following files from the CDs to the "The Grand" folder in the VST Plugins directory:
The Grand.dat
The Grand1.dat
THEGRAND1
THEGRAND2
After running Logic and selecting The Grand as a plugin, Logic crashes.
Thanks
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we had longer discussion and at the end i gave up because it seemed impossible what he sees.
so these are the windows versions? why that? ...
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we had longer discussion and at the end i gave up because it seemed impossible what he sees.
so these are the windows versions? why that? ...
A lot of the Steinberg stuff is dual PC/Mac formatted install CDs/DVDs; same sample content for either OS, that is why
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he says most of them wont mount at all.
normally when you put a steinberg CD in the drive, with no joliet extension you would see only the mac volume (and with you would see both.)
if a CD doesnt even mount there must be something wrong on either side.
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BTW I downloaded the ISOs from another source, and the same thing happens.
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BTW I downloaded the ISOs from another source, and the same thing happens.
@neurocrash: it's really difficult to help you - I think -, due to enormous amount of anomalies you're experiencing.
In my opinion you should start by checking the HD integrity, the healt of the downloaded files, your CD Recorder/Reader ...
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he already tried to burn the CDs under windows and then they (==some) also dont work. it is really weird.
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can you share a link to where you got the downloads so we may try to reproduce this?
you can PM them to me if you like
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BTW I downloaded the ISOs from another source, and the same thing happens.
@neurocrash: it's really difficult to help you - I think -, due to enormous amount of anomalies you're experiencing.
In my opinion you should start by checking the HD integrity, the healt of the downloaded files, your CD Recorder/Reader ...
I've tried two CD recorders, one on Windows, one on Mac. I've tried installing from SSD, HDD, and from network. The CDs work find on Windows, the Macs just won't allow the cds to stay in the drive or even mount the images unless I install the Joliet file system.
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can you share a link to where you got the downloads so we may try to reproduce this?
you can PM them to me if you like
It was from a bittorrent site btbit: I searched for Steinberg Grand
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5ed7c6139253a2ea0b07437ea7106ff678c598cf&dn=Steinberg%20-%20The%20Grand%20VSTi
In any case, I found a new copy of Steinberg The Grand on ebay and bought it, so if I can get it working I'll try to share CD images.
I was able to make a burnable CD image of Emagic SoundDiver 3 which passes the CD copy protection check that I could share, although it has to be burned with Alcohol 120 on Windows. I'll see what it takes with The Grand.
Aloha
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I was able to make a burnable CD image of Emagic SoundDiver 3 which passes the CD copy protection check that I could share, although it has to be burned with Alcohol 120 on Windows. I'll see what it takes with The Grand.
Aloha
FYI: We have a working image of Soundiver 3 including upgrades that works. The CD image suffices for the periodic "CD is present" check. I think everything is there but if you can check the contents against your CD for anything missing that would be great.
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Hi all,
as far as I remember, it took me also a while to install "THE GRAND". Via OS9 it doesn't work because the CDs (as written here) are not recognized when burnt.
It did a trick for me: I have OS 10.3.9 on the same partition and I recognized that OS X sees the TheGrand-CD. I just started my system with OS X and OS9 inside with classic mode. Because OS X saw the CD, I started it there and installed "TheGrand" in the Classic (OS9) VST folder. This trick did it for me.
Best, paule.
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I made Mac readable ISOs of The Grand, burned the first ISO to disk, and it installed and passed the copy protection check. Unfortunately, when trying to open the VST, Logic crashes. This has been the case with several VSTs so I suspect that some of them just don't like Logic. (Arturia Moog Modular and MiniMoog both crash it too). I tried uninstalling The Grand and re-installing from the original CDs but it still crashes when opened in Logic.
In any case, I can share the Grand ISOs that I have since they are Mac os9 readable.
Regarding SoundDiver, the files in that archive are not exactly what are on my CD. I can share an ISO or a .sit of the files.
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Can anyone advise how I would go about uploading the files to the download area?
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Can anyone advise how I would go about uploading the files to the download area?
i would suggest u upload to any file sharing service + post the link here and then ask the admins to copy the files after thats done..
takes care of 2 birds with one stone and u dont have to wait on anyone
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I burned The Grand cds, but when I put one in the drive it says "the disk The Grand cannot be used because it cannot be found" then ejects the disk. This happens with all three disks.
Just tapping in here as I have the exact same issues. The discs appear fine in Windows as they appear to be Windows discs. I tried inserting Disc 1 into my G4 quicksilver and it just gives the error mentioned above and ejects the disk. Regardless of whether I run the included separate mac installer the disc doesn't mount so I can't progress.
Can anyone advise how I would go about uploading the files to the download area?
Did you ever upload your working versions anywhere? Would be greatly appreciated.
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it is using the "steinberg CD protection" and you (not you, the uploader) can easily make a wrong image when he tries to copy from his original via "copy" instead of creating a real master iso file and then burn this.
this is what happend to me, too, when i once made a safety copy of my original. dragged the CD to toast in OSX -> and broken.
but do you have OSX and tried yet to install from there? some guy above once said that would work for him.
the authorisation process is the same in both OS, and to install the OS9 plug-in file that will work from the classic enviroment.
(p.s. this method is also required to install the fucked up installer of the free version of virsyn tera (german keyboard magazine and others) )
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but do you have OSX and tried yet to install from there? some guy above once said that would work for him.
Yes, I have OSX 10.4.11 with Classic installed on my Powerbook G4. I installed Cubase first under classic, even though it doesn't run in OSX under classic I did so in order for the installer to put the VSTs in the right spot. I burned a physical disc, inserted it and it mounted to the desktop. I ran the installer for macOS9 which ran under classic and after a long wait of it searching the HDD first for the files it eventually checked the mounted CD and installed. I now have the VST's directly under the cubase VST folder and I copied the contents of CD 2 and CD 3 in there (two files). I'm now moving the files over to my Powermac (takes ages over these older machines) and I'll post back if it works. Will share the direct files on here too in order to solve this problem for others.
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the long waiting time is the authorisation.
on a side note: to reauthorise steinberg/waldorf products after harddisk failure, simply install a copy of the plain plug-in file into the desktop, then delete it.
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Okay I'm trying something else and spent some time making new images.
I basically opened the ISO's in OSX, copied the contents of each disc to MacOS9, created a new hybrid extended hfs + windows disc for each set of files and burned discs.
When inserted, the disc mounts normally now and the installer recognises it and seems to be trying to install (not asking for the CD).
I will upload a 3 CD version and a singular DVD version in toast image format in order to solve this issue soon if all works out. The mac "update" installer will also be included on Disc 1 because it can be and this will clear up confusion.
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that would be useful. i´ve never managed to transfer the protection scheme to another volume. you think that works?
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that would be useful. i´ve never managed to transfer the protection scheme to another volume. you think that works?
I might of jumped the gun. I guess I don't know enough about the protection scheme in place to make it work. I thought it was working as the installer didn't complain about inserting the disc but actually the installer just stops responding. I left it overnight and it's still done nothing. So I guess it doesn't work and we really need the images to be made properly from the original discs. I think the download should be probably be removed from macos9lives because it's pretty useless for native OS9 setup as far as I can see.
I could install OSX on the same machine (instead of trying to migrate from another mac with OSX and classic installed) and install that way somehow, but I don't really want to install OSX just for the soul purpose of installing the grand.
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one alternative could be to put several (correct) image files on one DVD. they will install from mounted images, too. at least saves a few media and you cant loose your content discs. :) i once did that with several CDs i own legally.
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I think the download should be probably be removed from macos9lives because it's pretty useless for native OS9 setup as far as I can see.
Should be working, you can try to PM Mactron
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Hi all,
as far as I remember, it took me also a while to install "THE GRAND". Via OS9 it doesn't work because the CDs (as written here) are not recognized when burnt.
It did a trick for me: I have OS 10.3.9 on the same partition and I recognized that OS X sees the TheGrand-CD. I just started my system with OS X and OS9 inside with classic mode. Because OS X saw the CD, I started it there and installed "TheGrand" in the Classic (OS9) VST folder. This trick did it for me.
Well I guess I bothered to try this and it actually worked. I was only able to get it working via installing using the classic environment under Mac OS X 10.4 then rebooting back into macOS 9 on the same machine. Without OS X dual booting on the same machine, the current images on this site simply cause the cd to be ejected under mac OS 9 as mentioned originally.