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Digital Audio Workstation & MIDI => Audio & MIDI Hardware => Topic started by: Steve_W on May 13, 2020, 12:30:57 AM

Title: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: Steve_W on May 13, 2020, 12:30:57 AM
Morning all, most of my old tracks were recorded on a 466 G4 graphite with Pro Tools 5 LE and the Digi001.  I moved from Pro Tools to Logic 4 but used the Digi001 hardware.

I have seen a few people with the Digi002.  The advantage is that I can just use firewire and not have to worry about the computer card.  This will be on a quicksilver 2002 running the MacOS9Lives 9.2.2 disk image.  If I install all the necessary software and open a digi001 session in Logic using the digi002 hardware (with all the right plugins I used at the time), should it all just open up and work fine?

I'm pretty sure it should but just want clarification before I buy one.

Many thanks!
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: mrhappy on May 13, 2020, 04:52:49 PM
I think you’d need the 002 mixer rig... the rack model doesn’t work with OS 9
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: GorfTheChosen on May 14, 2020, 08:11:21 AM
Don't where you are, but you might try this ?

https://www.amazon.com/digidesign-MX001-Digidesign-Digi-Rack/dp/B005VG0GNY (https://www.amazon.com/digidesign-MX001-Digidesign-Digi-Rack/dp/B005VG0GNY)
Title: Re: Digi001 /Digi002?
Post by: FBz on May 14, 2020, 11:03:43 AM
Really like Gorf’s solution (above). Best bet!

And painfully now recognize Mr. Happy’s comment - as it vaguely reminds me of my own previous, quickly-aborted attempt with the Digi002 (und MDD) running OS 9. At the time, wished I’d gotten the Digi002 Mixer Rig instead. (Perhaps why the Digi002 rack is simply stored away here?) Ahh, memories from the fog.

Here’s info from Digidesign on the 002 and its’ use with OS 9 and OS X:
http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/os9/002/
http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/osx/jag/002/g4agp.cfm

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5491.0;attach=7600;image)

(http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5491.0;attach=7602;image)

Looks like the Rack 002’s are best used with zee Quicksilvers under OS X?
I’d still like an 002 Mixer Rig. ::)   
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: Front 424 on May 15, 2020, 12:04:46 AM
Morning all, most of my old tracks were recorded on a 466 G4 graphite with Pro Tools 5 LE and the Digi001.  I moved from Pro Tools to Logic 4 but used the Digi001 hardware.

I have seen a few people with the Digi002.  The advantage is that I can just use firewire and not have to worry about the computer card.  This will be on a quicksilver 2002 running the MacOS9Lives 9.2.2 disk image.  If I install all the necessary software and open a digi001 session in Logic using the digi002 hardware (with all the right plugins I used at the time), should it all just open up and work fine?

I'm pretty sure it should but just want clarification before I buy one.

Many thanks!

I would hope so.  From my experience, migrating and switching between ProTools versions is fairly fluid, at least in a certain time period.  I think you can even work backwards to a certain degree.  Correct me if wrong, but 001 and 002 had almost identical software requirements, just a few .0.1 version differences. 
Couldn't say about Logic translations, but my best to you in your efforts!
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: mrhappy on May 15, 2020, 07:18:46 AM
[ From my experience, migrating and switching between ProTools versions is fairly fluid, at least in a certain time period.  I think you can even work backwards to a certain degree.

I was happily surprised to see modern day PT still allows a ‘save as 5.x’ option... however... as stated if Steve_W wants to use OS9/002 combo it will have to be the 002/mixer and not the rack model...  with the proper version software that Fury linked above... much easier and probably cheaper to just grab a 001 and continue where he left off.😎
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on May 15, 2020, 08:27:37 AM
Let me remind you all that a 001 is 3 parts:

1 the rack
2 the cable
3 the pci card

You can work with only the PCI card if you have something ADAT or SPDIF optical.

But you cant work only with the rack

It is practical for a medium studio to have various racks and only one PCI card.
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: tunedbytad on May 15, 2020, 04:13:12 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XLNT-Digidesign-Digi-001-PCI-Controller-Card-From-Working-Mac-G4-Local-Pickup-LA/153922133767?hash=item23d6795f07:g:V4kAAOSw6qpeaaLJ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digidesign-digi-001-PCI-Card-915006492-00-1A5/124086082920?hash=item1ce41b5d68:g:OoAAAOSwOGleSYXV:sc:USPSPriority!92867!US!-1


Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: tunedbytad on May 15, 2020, 04:15:31 PM
possibly new in box

https://offerup.com/item/detail/727085933/

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Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: tunedbytad on May 17, 2020, 05:44:21 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digidesign-001/124190449222?hash=item1cea53de46:g:FtEAAOSwHwReqMd9

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zD4AAOSwMKFeqMeT/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/muEAAOSwGfVeqMeO/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: Steve_W on June 23, 2020, 02:02:24 PM
Thanks for all your replies here guys! I decided to keep a look out for a 001 and came up trumps! All components in the box, turns out it was from a music college and really well looked after, so I’m on the path... only problem is now is that I can’t get the machine to boot! Works fine in 10.5.8 but a clean install of 9.2.2 from the macos9lives universal install disk allows me to inistialise and do the install, POSTS ok but won’t boot... tried with all cards except graphics removed and all extensions off to no avail... I’ll report back once I get there!
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: tunedbytad on June 24, 2020, 09:35:21 AM
by no means am i an expert

for first boot
-1 stick of ram
-new mother board battery
-zap p-ram
-known good video card
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on June 24, 2020, 02:48:55 PM
Try to boot without the cable+rack

My MDD 867 dual rejects to boot with the rack connected, so I use AudioMedia III there.

No trouble ever on G3 B&W, sawtooth and Digital Audio-QuickSilver
Title: Re: I can't find a Digi001 with PCI card & cable in the wild, can I use Digi002?
Post by: Protools5LEGuy on June 24, 2020, 02:50:59 PM
Without the rack you have ADAT in and ADAT out so think about using it that way if it refuses to run on your system with the rack connected

Or try another G3 or G4