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Offline nativ

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iMedia 100
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:49:22 AM »
Hello everyone,

I have some imedia 100 Video editing cards (PCI) I have a selection of Install CD's and even manuals!  I tried emailing Avid for a serial or latest/last version for me to use, they said they would help... but then they got bought out and now I get no reply at all!

so if anyone knows any compatible software or where I can find imedia 100 for OSx or Os9 That would be a great help!

many thanks
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Re: iMedia 100
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 02:32:38 PM »
Hello,
my first post here I hope to be of any help :-)
I think you are meaning "Media100" hardware in the form of P6000 video editing PCI boards. In this case Avid has little to do with them, the guys to ask for support is the BorisFX company that some years ago acquired the Media100 asset and continued the development.
Unfortunately these boards are tied with a serial number that activate not only some functions but also the software version support so if you have a valid license to Media 100i version 6.0 you have to pay to can use later release like the latest v8 that allow the use under OSX. And they are not cheap upgrades... no matter the hardware is obsolete, if you want they allow you to use it again you have to squeeze out $$$
If you have spare board and no serial number tied to them you have nothing you can use. It as a pity that there aren't third party tools to allow at least the video and audio capture: the quality of this equipment is really excellent but this is a closed system, maybe the best way to have a working environment is try to purchase a pre-owned, already upgraded system WITH the serial number included!
The Media100i system is obsolete and largely surpassed by various AJA, BlackMagic and Matrox units that are mainly frame buffers and DSP for on-the-fly format conversion: the era of dedicated video workstation is ended...
I would be very HAPPY if someone will come out with a dedicated driver for the Media100 boards like the one for MiroMotion DC30+ for OSX, at least one could still use them as raw capture/playback device: not a glorious destiny but far better than put them in the trashcan.
Note that Media100 policy is even worse than AVID one: if you replace the Media100 board you have to obtain a whole new serial number while if you replace an AVID board (I am talking about old PowerMac based ABVB systems) you simply re-plug the ADB dongle to gain back the full functionality.

Offline MacTron

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Re: iMedia 100
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 09:17:12 AM »
I always wished to have one of this Media 100 PCI cards...
Anyway, I have the Media 100 software version 4.5 for Mac Os 9 and despite SnakeCoils advice ... I also have Media 100 dongle, which I've never even could try...
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Re: iMedia 100
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 08:34:07 AM »
The Media 100 thing still gets me angry, I was getting a ton of this stuff in G4s that were bought as auction lots back in New York back in the day... the trouble was that all that hard drives were pulled before the units were grouped together and cheaply liquidated.  It absolutely sucked to have all these cards and they could not be used in anyway... I held onto them for years and never was able to use any of them... 2 years ago I gave them to the scrap guy... nightmare :(

Here is a guy on ebay.... "Pulled form working Studio"... yeah, right... lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Media-100-XR-Video-Editing-Capture-Card-P6000-XR-DVBK-1-A-2-PCI-cards-/291113550146?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

Think they did broadcast quality MPEG2 conversion on the fly... but I am no expert on these.... my old box had at least 25 full length cards that had all sorts of option cards... in today's world, the entire box could probably be replaced by a single modern video encode/decode chipset

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Re: iMedia 100
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 02:05:10 PM »
Exactly. You can find many auctions on eBay with Media100 boards for sale but without its own serial number they are useless, the top system was the XR version with the highest bandwidth in capture and a separate board for realtime FX, but again the software is the less important part, the serial number is, because it activates the card and the purchased options.
I own a working Media100 XS system, a middle range model, equipped with Sony firewire decoder card and a valid 6.0 license, I admit I have only a collector's interest in them so I really never used for produce anything.
I also own an AVID ABVB system with 3D FX board (Elite license, almost all the top available options are activated) that was dismissed from a local broadcast TV station and I purchased it for a 150 euros complete with SCSI drives, manuals, original box and cables and most important, the ADB dongle to activate the license: without it the only working part would be the PowerMac 9600 that host the cards. The various board inside are connected together with a flat cable that completely bypass the slow PCI bus and generates so much heat that a large dedicated fan is put by AVID above the cards to cool them.
I believe at the time the whole system would cost over $25.000 but the target was the broadcast world, while the Media100 was more open to semipro and advanced users too.
A thing to keep in mind when you deal with broadcast equipment is that a machine like that is all but user friendly: the typical user is a professional with a specific knowledge of broadcast world and without a basis it can be tricky to understand how things are done or what steps are needed to do a specific action. I found for example the AVID environment really strange for a newbie like me while the Media100 was much more intuitive, however both workstation have been purchased for collection purposes only, I did not spent much time in trying to do something useful on them :-)
When I compare that heavy and costly equipment with modern video workstation I see an abyss of differences: the PowerMacs were almost the backbone that host a dedicated boardset, they provided only the graphical interface for the operator and a minimal I/O to drive the workflow in a direction instead of another but all the hard work were done by the AVID and Media100 boards, the most powerful PowerMac available at the time would not nearly capable of doing alone a demanding task like realtime video editing.
During the time the processing power of CPU (now assisted by GPU too) is increased so much that a video stream can be handled and manipulated without problems from a middle-class system, only an I/O box is needed but there's a trick... you can do realtime until you are editing an uncompressed stream, if a particular format is needed in input or output the power of CPU collapse because compressed formats are really an intensive task so if you don't want to loose the performance you must have a board that do all the dirty work of compressing/decompressing for you and this is the reason because the professional video boards are not simply a bunch of ADC and DAC but integrates also DSP and local memory, leaving the computer CPU free to apply the effects and doing a snappier workflow.
Another thing I have noticed during the time is that dedicated systems are progressively disappeared: while in the past every boardset had its own dedicated editing software and projects were not interchangeable between various platforms, now we have a wider choice of many hardware I/O boards that can be driven by different systems.
The Media100 Suite and Apple Final Cut for example can operate with many hardware brands without any license restrictions, you can also choose to have different suites on the same computer that uses the same board. We now have a freedom of choice as never happened in the past and a superb quality at affordable prices, the software rules and hardware is running faster and faster to satisfy its wills, this reminds me Microsoft, I don't know why... :-)


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Re: iMedia 100
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2015, 08:57:50 AM »
btw if you ever buy a system like that first thing you should do is scan that hard drive and try to restore what you can and just maybe you get the needed pref files to have that m100 system running.
borisfx bought all of it and they might even be able to help you out. after all the serials are on that board. giving up is easy. i called quiet a few companys in the past to get going with some outdated stuff