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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2020, 12:12:10 AM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silicon-Image-SataLink-PCI-RAID-SATA-Controller-Card-Sil3112ACTG144-Ser523-Rev-B-/190979296009?pt=US_Computer_Disk_Controllers_RAID_Cards&hash=item2c7740cb09

this card looks interesting in that its 4 ports with the same chipset as the seritek 1s2 cards which are 2 port
but its also 64bit instead of 32bit

would love to have the chance to test to see if it might work in 9 or X in a power mac..
but i dont think im willing to risk the purchase:D

Got the three-chip version with six channels. The PCI-PCI-X bridge is non-transparent, can't see the 3112 chips. :(
Unless someone tells me, how to re-program the bridge, these are likely to be great as a fancy wall decoration or letter weight.

Apparently, some use transparent bridges - would be great to know, which ones.
I think, every card of this kind branded by Adaptec is a bad choice.
Mine is from Adaptec. Looking for a non-Adaptec solution.

Nice weather here in Alsace today, continuing on 3114 / 3112 / 680 (and by proxy, since it's so similar) with VIA VT6421A.

Don't misunderstand: the VIA chip is very different from Silicon Image - but the entire logic how it handles things is the same.
What is different is the location of registers (while handling them is the same).
Attention with VIA: there are many-many of them, dirt cheap on eBay. Most don't have any ROM, just a place for the socket.

Mine has a non-socketed SST 49LF004B.

https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf/506447/SiliconStorageTechnology/SST49LF004B/1

According the spec, it is a 4 Mbit LPC Firmware Flash, which boils down to 512KB ROM space - that has room for OpenFirmware, '9' SIM, BIOS, PPC "X" driver and even EFI for booting.

Hopefully, the card looking at the spec card seem to have 64KB ROM space only, do not understand why a 512KB ROM chip was put there.
64 would be enough for "9" and OpenFirmware only.
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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2020, 12:53:07 AM »
there are six channel cards? :)

more cowbell storage!
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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2020, 01:45:53 PM »
there are six channel cards? :)

more cowbell storage!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283528628048?ul_noapp=true

This is what I bought (for 15, eBay shows the offer price, not the agreed upon price):
https://vod.ebay.com/vod/FetchOrderDetails?sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AVPS&itemid=283528628048&transid=2136562036018

Very well could be, I will have an other paperweight.

This guy (notice the country!)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233241220316?ul_noapp=true

wants 5000 HUF + 1000 HUF for shipping to my family there. It's essentially an Adaptec card with very bad firmware.

But I think, having two paperweights already is enough. I told him, 3000 Fortints (ca. $9), he wants more of course.

These cards have Intel I/O processor, usually set in non-transparent mode.
If I would figure out how to make it transparent, that would be great.




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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #78 on: May 26, 2020, 03:50:45 PM »
holy crap, i really want to have one of those one day. why upgrade fom 2 to 4 when i can have 6? :)

the raid modes can hopefully be turned off.
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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2020, 03:52:22 PM »
eh, but its PCIe once more.
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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2020, 11:24:33 AM »
holy crap, i really want to have one of those one day. why upgrade fom 2 to 4 when i can have 6? :)

the raid modes can hopefully be turned off.

all of them are PCI-X, not PCI-e.
The different cards are needed to check, how to turn the transparency off (if needed).
If the transparency is already off, that's a bonus.

In general, these cards present a pain in the butt because even if the transparency is off, I need to figure out how to address the ROM.
(Because we do not need the useless Adaptec firmware, we need OpenFirmware inside).

It's kind of a project for the next lock-down if COVID-20 or COVID-21 happens.

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Re: the search for sata-os9 bootable firmware+card combination
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2020, 05:17:11 PM »
okay because it said PCIe :) https://www.ebay.com/itm/283528628048?ul_noapp=true

Yes, they made an obvious mistake. That card is I think made by LSI, not Adaptec.
The BOM is about the same, hopefully the internal design will be better.

Probably not the most important card in the collection of course - due the complicated and over-engineered bridge.