Mac Os 9 booting on: G4 Tower MDD FW800 (Detailed Posts)

[supernova777]

awesome news 

[Nymunariya]

somebody at Apple is wondering who the hell is registering OS 9??? 

[DieHard]

somebody at Apple is wondering who the hell is registering OS 9??? 

We should get all the members to register Mac OS 9 on the same day, then call tech support and ask when 9.2.3 is being released

[lokki]

sorry to revive this thread, but has anyone tried an aluminium powerbook 12 inch 1.5 ghz? would that also work? or other aluminium powerbooks with 1.5 ghz or higher cpu speed...

[Veneteaou]

Depends on the model lokki. Some of them have hardware-specific issues that a couple of ThinkClassic guys are slowly working through. One of the biggest issues is that mobile video card drivers were never written to run in os9 for late-G4 laptops.

Video is the issue for the 12" 1.5GHz. It's running a 64 MB GeForce FX Go5200 for a video card, which was never used in an OS9-compatible laptop. So unless someone can patchwork together video extensions from bits and pieces of OSX drivers, it would have to run video off of the CPU and it would be essentially worthless.

[velvetcave]

Thanks so much for this, it works and made my day.

[macStuff]

sorry to revive this thread, but has anyone tried an aluminium powerbook 12 inch 1.5 ghz? would that also work? or other aluminium powerbooks with 1.5 ghz or higher cpu speed...

 

[DieHard]

Kinda has a lot going against it, beside the Bluetooth 2.0, AirPort Extreme and USB 2 being a total no-go, I doubt the "GeForce FX Go5200" would emulate the "NVIDIA GeForce4 440" and load the driver for acceleration, but please give it a try.

Also, as we have discussed the PowerPC 7447A processor is possible under OS9, but needs OF modifications, so you may need a few OF commands before you can even try our "Unsupported OS 9 Install"

I am guessing overall, it will have many "deal breaker" items, like No USB, No WiFI, No Ethernet, and Low res graphics

[macStuff]

my mistake i thought i was referring to the same model of laptop that u posted about buying 3 of on another thread

[trevor12]

the link

https://www.adrive.com/public/Fgb3Ge/MacOs922custer.img.sit

is dead, pls reupload

[DieHard]

Here is a new "active" Link

https://www.adrive.com/public/tX2yv9/Mac%20Os%20ROM%209.8.1%20(Cluster)

[afewmacs]

thank you all who made this possible,

my machine is now up and running with OS9 and OSX 10.5.8.

re: installing the OS9 drivers, mission impossible from the FW 800 itself, not as I read here OS dependent but machine dependent.

I used target mode from one that could, a MDD dual 867, anybody else doing this should add carbon lib to the extensions folder,

a requirement for the Logic 6.4 installer, which in my case  - was what this was all about.

note the file Logic_v6.sea.bin downloaded from here appears to be corrupted.

Boots into 0S9 with option key on start up, not available in OSX 10.5.8 system preferences Start Disc.

video ATI Radeon 9000 Pro - DVI output res is not quite right (1440 x 900 60 Hz is the best option)

[IIO]

re: installing the OS9 drivers, mission impossible from the FW 800 itself, not as I read here OS dependent but machine dependent.

yep it is the machine that prevents that OS9 or OSX can write the OS9 driver to the HD in a regular fashion.

but those who do not want to use the ASR method from this forum can also just turn over the HDs to another computer, which allows to write the drivers, then move them back again. (well, it is work, but compared to a mini it is doable for more people...)

otoh, yesterday i was thinking one should also make a little disk image for mirroring the driver to an empty disk. just as the MacOS9Lives fw 800 CD, but without the operating system installer.

video ATI Radeon 9000 Pro - DVI output res is not quite right (1440 x 900 60 Hz is the best option)

it should work. did it under OSX?

[afewmacs]

video ATI Radeon 9000 Pro - DVI output res is not quite right (1440 x 900 60 Hz is the best option)

it should work. did it under OSX?
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yes , in OSX perfect there are different res options available.

wow !! re: above, remove the drive from a Mac mini to install the OS9 drivers is more work than the machine is worth.

this morning added the ADAT edit card from the PPC 7600 to the MDD FW800 leaving the Korg 1212 in place solo, 8 channel lightpipe in all machines now  - not in the mini that stays at OSX 10.4.11 and at the moment completely redundant. Waiting for a new purpose in life,

[darthnVader]

video ATI Radeon 9000 Pro - DVI output res is not quite right (1440 x 900 60 Hz is the best option)

it should work. did it under OSX?

yes , in OSX perfect there are different res options available.

wow !! re: above, remove the drive from a Mac mini to install the OS9 drivers is more work than the machine is worth.

this morning added the ADAT edit card from the PPC 7600 to the MDD FW800 leaving the Korg 1212 in place solo, 8 channel lightpipe in all machines now  - not in the mini that stays at OSX 10.4.11 and at the moment completely redundant. Waiting for a new purpose in life,
[/quote]

You can write the OS 9 drivers to a disk when formating from the Terminal in OS X, even when booted from the Install DVD on a Mac that doesn't support OS 9.

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diskutil  partitionDisk  /dev/disk1 1 OS9Drivers  HFS+  MacHD 0b
Be careful with /dev/disk1, you'll want to run:

diskutil list

To see a list of disks installed in the system and adjust the command to partition the disk you want. The 0b will use the entire disk, there should be a way to adjust the command to create more that one partition.

If you want a partition for OS 9, and one for OS X, it would be something like:

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diskutil partitionDisk /dev/disk1 2 OS9Drivers HFS+ MacHD 4000M JHFS+ OSXHD R
This would create 2 partitions, one name MacHD formated HFS+ that is 4000 Megabytes, and one names OSXHD formated JHFS+ that would use the remainder of the disk.

Just adjust the size in megabytes you want for you OS 9 partition, and insure you are partitioning the correct disk( /dev/diskx ).

 

[afewmacs]

You can write the OS 9 drivers to a disk when formating from the Terminal in OS X, even when booted from the Install DVD on a Mac that doesn't support OS 9.

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diskutil  partitionDisk  /dev/disk1 1 OS9Drivers  HFS+  MacHD 0b
Be careful with /dev/disk1, you'll want to run:

diskutil list

To see a list of disks installed in the system and adjust the command to partition the disk you want. The 0b will use the entire disk, there should be a way to adjust the command to create more that one partition.

If you want a partition for OS 9, and one for OS X, it would be something like:

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diskutil partitionDisk /dev/disk1 2 OS9Drivers HFS+ MacHD 4000M JHFS+ OSXHD R
This would create 2 partitions, one name MacHD formated HFS+ that is 4000 Megabytes, and one names OSXHD formated JHFS+ that would use the remainder of the disk.

Just adjust the size in megabytes you want for you OS 9 partition, and insure you are partitioning the correct disk( /dev/diskx ).
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thank you,

wow you guys are good.

I will now correct the "mission impossible" statement from above, to "possible if you know how".

Good to know if I have to do it again

[IIO]

i wasnt aware that you can launch the terminal app from the install discs.

seems a good alterenative to keep in mind.

yet a bit dangerous for those who expect a warning/confirmation dialog before erasing a HD

[afewmacs]

now we have it, OSX install discs are required to use Terminal, so while you are it, on for example the mac mini solution (which is a real pain to get the drive out and do it elsewhere).

upgrade the existing OS to 10.5, Time machine the contents of the drive to a safe place, and then zap it as above with Terminal to install the OS9 driver

ditto for FW800, and all other none Native OS9 G4 machines.

[darthnVader]

now we have it, OSX install discs are required to use Terminal, so while you are it, on for example the mac mini solution (which is a real pain to get the drive out and do it elsewhere).

upgrade the existing OS to 10.5, Time machine the contents of the drive to a safe place, and then zap it as above with Terminal to install the OS9 driver

ditto for FW800, and all other none Native OS9 G4 machines.

You can always use Firewire Target Disk Mode if you have another Mac with FW.

You know hold "T" at startup.

[DieHard]

You can always use Firewire Target Disk Mode if you have another Mac with FW.

You know hold "T" at startup.

Yes, that has always been my preferred method as seen here:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,3912.0.html