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Radeon 9200 not loading in 6360cd.
« on: April 22, 2022, 10:46:49 PM »
I have a 6360 with 9200 Radion. Brand new in box. The system has a L2 cache G3 240 MHz upgrade card, 128 MB of ram, TV tuner and Video in out card, DVD ROM drive, 256 gig dram SSD, running Macos 9.2.2

Without the video card, the system starts up and loads the G3 card extension. The extension is the first thing to load, when it does this the computer reboots in a soft manner so there is no chime. The computer then boots up using the G3 card instead of the 603ev on the board.
I installed the drivers off the included CD, the computer then starts up with the video card to the point where the G3 expansion card extension loads. At that point the display stops functioning, it doesn't shut off but it displays of Frozen image. The computer meanwhile is still starting up again but not updating the video coming out of the card.

If you plug a monitor into the Onboard video of the computer, you just get some vertical bars. No display. If you start up with a dongle plugged into the onboard card and the monitor plugged into the 9200, you get a Mac OS desktop but you can't get your mouse on to it. So it's like a second display that isn't acknowledged by the computer. It does change however from the frozen screen before to the blank desktop background

System profiler shows the card name as PCI 1002, 5960. Card vendor ID of 1002 and no other information available

I'm not sure what my next step should be to troubleshoot this

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Re: Radeon 9200 w/ 6360?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2022, 07:02:22 AM »
ATI Radeon 9200 (Mac Edition?)
...new in the box, with the installer disc?

Might want to review this thread:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=4178.0

AND compare driver versions / sys reqs:
https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ati-radeon-9200-driver-cd-rom

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Re: Radeon 9200 not loading in 6360cd.
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2022, 07:15:21 AM »
is it - with the videocard installed - still the first thing to load?

what i mean is ... maybe you could try to rename " ~G3CardDriver" to "    ~~~G3CardDriver" to raise the chance that it is not overridden? ;)
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Re: Radeon 9200 w/ 6360?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2022, 09:44:11 AM »
Might also download and compare with these:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,1101.0.html
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Re: Radeon 9200 not loading in 6360cd.
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2022, 11:11:56 AM »
ive tried the older and newer extensions on the system. the card i got is a mac card.
i also have a 7000 pc card that i swapped the rom on. it exhibits similar behavior with the L2 card installed.

if i remove all ATI drivers, the system still does not register which display to use. something im going to try later is to physically remove the factory video output (unplug it) and see if the system will use the 9200 then.

its frustrating because id love this system to have a G3 and a 9200. so far the rage 128 is the best i can get working.

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Re: Radeon 9200 not loading in 6360cd.
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2022, 12:17:30 PM »
Hi!

As the 6360 is based on the same architecture as the 6400, maybe you should take a look at this page:

http://www.zone6400.com/files/ATI_Radeon.html#Radeon_7000

btw, at the end, you can read that:

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11/2/2002 ATI Radeon 7000 and Vimage G3 don't work together: Well I couldn't resist since I had the card for testing OSX. I tried it with the Vimage G3 enabled and after the soft reboot Vimges drivers force, I had no image and the monitor appeard to go to sleep? It was hung and I had to reboot with extensions disabled. Oh well, it was worth a try :)

 maybe you can email them to ask if they have any tips ?

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Re: Radeon 9200 not loading in 6360cd.
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2022, 12:18:56 PM »
There is also this answer that can be nice to read ;)

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/330639?answerId=330639021#330639021