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[DieHard]

Activation failed...

[OS923]

I followed the instructions in the download and I’ve been using it since several years and I reinstalled Windows several times in those years. I’m using XP SP3 32-bit.

I tried to install MacDrive Pro 10 on Windows 10 following the instructions from macbold but it says invalid license.

[OS923]

Windows Disk Format can't format FAT32 larger that 32GB

Mac OS 9 can format FAT32 volumes larger that 32 GB.

[OS923]

How to install mac drive 9 on Windows 7 Complete Steps
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etdLosGWlZA

[OS923]

In my opinion this works only on 32-bit XP.

[Petros90]

Greetings again fellow OS9 enthusiasts

(Not sure whether to carry on this thread, or start posting in the software page? It is actually still a part of the saga, I'm sure the Admins will correct me if I'm in an error state.)

 I have two questions -

1) What is your experience installing OSX Tiger on a Power Macintosh, running OS9.2.2 only and with no access to another Mac?
I've searched the forum, but understandably there's not much info.

My G3 is currently running OS9.2.2.
I have installed a second, 80GB IDE hard drive, formatted Mac OS Extended, two partitions, one slightly under 8GB.

I'm failing to create a bootable CD. So far I have:

> downloaded from the Macintosh Garden the four CDs as zip files. Inside each one is –

a folder: _Mac OSX, inside is  a file ._Tiger_Disc1.toast
and a file: Tiger_Disc1.toast, that one is 444MB

I copied them to the G3, Toast didn't like them and was unable to mount.

> downloaded from the Internet Archive the four OS X Tiger install ISOs on a PC. They are .iso files.
They won't burn in Win10, I did try, "The selected disk image file isn't valid."

I guess the next stage is to copy them over to the G3, connect the SCSI CD burner, and try to burn them there.
But if an ISO file isn't valid in Win10, why would it be any more valid in OS9.
I think I burned Diehard's Universal OS9.2.2 installation CD on a PC, actually. It boots fine, of course.

(It's good to know I'm not alone. Just discovered this thread on mac rumours - "The endless pain of burning a Mac OS X 10.4 cd"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-endless-pain-of-burning-a-mac-os-x-10-4-cd.2239750/
- the guy gave up trying to burn a bootable OSX 10.4 CD-set on his iMac.)

https://macmaps.com/macosxnative.html#MACOSXLIMIT
isn't that useful, doesn't even mention CD installation.

> So now, I'm currently downloading the CD1 as a dmg from the Macintosh Repository. On the G3, in OS9.

Weirdly, they know I’m using an old Mac, and congratulate me.
This is only the second time I've connected to the Internet (in the last 19 years that is) using OS9, I’m getting used to Classilla. And the lightning speed

I'll then have to connect the SCSI CD-writer to burn the CD.

How do you lot do this? Start off with a later Mac that already has the install DVDs. And a DVD-writer.

That’s cheating, that is. Cowards.

The trouble with all this is that I'm reinventing the wheel. It’s 20 years since I’ve used Mac OS (pre-X) seriously.
I've only just discovered how to partition drives. “Oh yes, I remember.” (I'll have to go back and re-partition the main OS9 drive which is 250GB and OS9 only sees 80GB.)

I've forgotten what the second question was. Our three main weapons are surprise ... surprise and fear ... fear and surprise. And ruthless efficiency.
And an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope ...

... Fetch the comfy chair ...

[chrisNova777]

do yourself a favour + replace the Optical drive in your G4 with a modern dvd burner drive (20$ at any computer store) youll need a sata to ide adapter of course to connect it to the IDE bus of the g4

there is definately a learning curve coming back to the original MACOS after a long time period, but thats what this site is for

https://archive.org/details/AppleMacOSXTigerInstallDVD
download the DVD version, try using a blank DVD-R (not DVD+R as is more common now vs the early 2000s)
burn the file on a PC or MAC doesnt matter - its an ISO (imgburn on PC should work fine, an appropriate version of Toast if your on a mac)

[IIO]

to make it short, it is not required, but better to use different partitions when you plan to boot between different OSes.

and if you dont have a good reason for that buggy 10.3, then use 10.4.

[Petros90]

Thanks Chris,

I'm trying to go slow, after the fiasco three years ago, when I tried to do everything in a rush.
So far, so good.

It's given me a huge amount of satisfaction to solve all the problems and get this far.

I'm at a point where I can archive without using CDs or USB1.1, transfer large files
(up to 4GB anyway) via USB2/FW between the G3 and a PC, AND connect to the internet,

Today I burned (via my old SCSI CD-writer) the Ist CD of the Tiger install from the Macintosh Repository.
The issue was the Verbatim CD-Rs, I substituted a Kodak CD-R and it worked.

Of course, like the two CDs I burned three years ago, the G3 will not boot from this CD,
and it's not possible to select it as a Startup Drive.

So, either the file on Macintosh Repository is bad, or I'm doing something wrong. I suspect the latter.

In Windows, making a bootable CD is not the same as burning a CD - which is what I'm doing with Toast.
Which is v.3.5.5 - I've just found your link to the tutorial on how to make a bootable CD in Toast 5!

... And I was correct, there are quite a few steps to creating a bootable CD.

I'll check my version of Toast and see if it's possible, if not there's a Toast Titanium
download in the software section, also a later version than mine of the SCSI version, so a few options there.

I have got a SATA / IDE thingy, it's the SeriTek 1eVE2+2.
But I suspect it's not just a matter of connecting it up and pressing the button.
Although it does say ' "Plug and play" ease of use' on the box!
I do intend to install it, and an SSD, but I'd like to explore all CDavenues first. THese downloads should work.

Thanks, very much for the reply, it's got me headed in the right direction I think.
And that is really useful info about iso files. I'd suspected as muchh but wasn't sure.

And now, I've just discovered Diehard's post about the politics of OS9 ...
and QEMU ...
I won't be getting into that either!

[Petros90]

Chris, lools like you are right, this article explains a lot -
https://lowendmac.com/2009/tips-for-installing-or-reinstalling-mac-os-x-10-4-tiger/#2

Looks like I need a DVD drive ...

[macarone]

>Looks like I need a DVD drive ...

Towards the end of the article, just before "Install and Update":

Restoring to an external FireWire drive would also work, from which you could boot up and install.

So, no, if you have any kind of images of Tiger install, all you need is an external FW drive.

This also works for installing OS 9 when you can't boot from an installer CD. In fact for OS 9 you don't have to use an installer, but drag/drop from a FW drive works too.

[Petros90]

Macarone - yes, I read that.
A G3 B&W can't boot from a FW drive.

It's possible to install via 'FireWire targeted disc mode' apparently, Diehard has written on it, also
Charles Moore on
https://lowendmac.com/2009/tips-for-installing-or-reinstalling-mac-os-x-10-4-tiger/#2

But this is all spurious as it turns out. Had a PM from FdB advising me how to check if my board was a Rev.1 or Rev.2.
Which I did, it's a Rev.2, this got the atrophied brain cells working ... and I suddenly remembered talking about this with the Mac Reseller.
22 years ago.
And I did the obvious thing and opened the drive, looked at the front.
It's a CD/DVD ROM drive.

Normal aging, although not responsible for causing memory disorders, is associated with a decline in cognitive and neural systems including memory (long-term and working memory).

Apologies to all.

[OS923]

I use Rufus to reformat USB sticks. I experienced that I had used a stick to install Ubuntu and when I reformatted it I could use it on OS 9 and XP but not Windows 10. Ubuntu made a read-only partition on my stick. After I used Rufus I could use the stick on Windows 10.

A simple way to format a large FAT32 stick is that you format it as NTFS and then you insert it in your OS 9 computer. Then you can choose DOS format.

[OS923]

Here’s MacDrive Pro 10 for Windows 7 or better, x64 only and ENGLISH only.
https://igetintopc.com/mediafour-macdrive-pro-10-free-download/

[teroyk]

Or use Virtual PC capture USB-device option on Mac OS 9.
It is slow with USB1.1, but works just drag and drop from Mac OS 9 desktop to Win XP sp2 (in Virtual PC).
You can use NTFS or exFAT in USB-stick or USB-HD.
exFAT needs install little update for XP:
https://archive.org/details/windows-xp-exfat-driver-kb955704-x86

And yes...I still looking for Virtual PC with Red Hat Linux CD-ROM to do same thing with EXT2 or (all !) another filesystems.

EDIT: of course you can use FAT32 too, but it is so limited.

[DieHard]

Here’s MacDrive Pro 10 for Windows 7 or better, x64 only and ENGLISH only.
https://igetintopc.com/mediafour-macdrive-pro-10-free-download/

WARNING - This looks like malware to me, a DMG file that looks like a fake flash install, please prove me wrong

[OS923]

It’s a RAR file. It contains the installer for Windows and a cracked exe and a few text files.

[DieHard]

Can you please actually download and test it.

I am on a mac and this is the download, so I am guessing the download using a PC is also tainted...?!

When downloading from a mac browser this is total scam

[OS923]

Oops.