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what is MorphOS?
« on: January 27, 2014, 08:17:26 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MorphOS
http://www.morphos-team.net/intro

i keep seeing references to this ..
and i finally looked up what it is.. and im a little bewildered.. lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MorphOS
MorphOS is an Amiga-compatible computer operating system. It is a mixed proprietary and open source OS produced for the Pegasos PowerPC processor based computer, PowerUP accelerator equipped Amiga computers, and a series of Freescale development boards that use the Genesi firmware, including the EFIKA and mobileGT. Since MorphOS 2.4, Apple's Mac Mini G4 is supported as well, and with the release of MorphOS 2.5 and MorphOS 2.6 the eMac and PowerMac G4 models are respectively supported. The release of MorphOS 3.2 added limited support for PowerMac G5. The core, based on the Quark microkernel, is proprietary, although several libraries and other parts are open source, such as Ambient desktop.

they actually have alot of posts on their forum.... talking about g4 hardware which is what im seeing ... but what the hell is this os? what software would be developed for an ancient amiga os running on ppc?

strange!

finding more info herE:
http://www.morphos-team.net/

http://www.morphos-team.net/downloads
says it supports
eMac, iBook G4, Mac mini G4, Pegasos 1 & 2,
PowerBook G4, Power Mac G4, Power Mac G5
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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 08:24:37 PM »
Finally, I have been waiting to post this all day since my account needed manual activation.

So Morph OS is kind of a modern continuation of the Amiga os that started on the Amiga 1000 and then when amiga was purchased by commodore continued until the mid 90s. The original cpus these systems had were motorola 68k type and then later on other companies started making Power pc accelerators for them. Since it's the modern continuation of Amiga os it retains some functionality and style of the amiga OS yet it can take advantage of the newer PPC computers out there and that's where the G4 macs come in to play.

While some people may develop new software for it, the main focus I believe is to run old software from amiga. This is more easily achieved through PPC that what somewhat supported with accelerators in the later amiga computers. Some of these accelerators are the Blizzard accelerator and others. Getting a real accelerator like that is very expensive though.

What I like better is new version of AmigaOS 4 that another company has made. Unfortunately it only runs on proprietary PPC hardware that is very expensive or old Amiga computers with the rarest and fastest/most expensive PPC accelerator.

AmigaOS and MorphOS have never been successfully ported to x86 and don't run on intel at all. The closest you can get is emulating it in WinUAE on windows. A long time ago a company (I forget the name) put I believe a version of amigaos on a cd and hacked it together with a lightweight linux distro and wine to allow for a somewhat transparent amigaos on a standard pc. The company I believe was sued and shutdown and it only worked with specific hardware.

ArOS is also somewhat amiga based but will not run amiga apps or pc apps but they have to be recompiled for ArOS but ArOS does run on intel pcs. No normal computer software will run on any of these systems.

Lol so yea you really have to dig into it to find out everything about it. If you get bored looking that up you can also check out BeOS and Haiku if you haven't heard of it before but it goes along with the whole weird operating systems theme.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 10:49:04 PM »
welcome oz...!

so what software would they be running on this? old amiga? how old is old if you are calling the g4 macs "new" hehehehe jk;)

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 01:30:25 PM »
Well Amiga started in the early 80s and lived until the early 90s. So a mac produced in 2000-5ish would be a good bit more powerful and "new". There is a crapload of software for amiga. This includes many PC games, video software, music software, and pretty much anything we typically use software to do now such as word processing and stuff.

Here is some more specific examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_software

What I was really wondering was if I could run MorphOS on my Macintosh G3 Minitower with a Sonnet G4 accelerator. They say G3 isn't supported but nothing of a G3 with a G4 upgrade guess I will have to test it out.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 04:26:11 PM »
a g3 with a g4 cpu is a g4 so u should be good   -afro-

so i wonder if this morphos is used to run ancient amiga versions of music apps?

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 05:27:20 PM »
I just think the rampage ati in my G3 might not be supported but I might be able to get a cheap pci add in that is supported.

I'm sure it could run music apps. it has native 68k emulation and as long as you have supported sound hardware there were many cool music programs written for Amiga. It's somewhat like other operating systems. A pretty good library of programs and no defined thing you "must" use it for. Considering you probably have a few G4's you should give it a try.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2014, 04:24:11 PM »
I also have a MorphOS machine ;)

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 11:19:55 PM »
Me too :). I was allways more of an Atari guy. Been using Atari's for music pretty much all my life. Applications like Cubase and Logic debuted on the Atari, so it's like the mother of all music computers ;)

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2015, 09:58:10 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQxJgw0GhJo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQxJgw0GhJo</a>

i dont understand what they use this for..
to run amiga software?

what the hell software runs on amiga/morphos?
it looks cool. but .. whats the point?

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2015, 10:57:29 PM »
Amiga and MorphOS software runs on Morph OS.

Whats the point of using any operating system? To run applications. Some software only exist for Amiga and MorphOS, so you use MorphOS to run them if you need to use them. Simple as that.

Why do you use Mac OS 9 or Windows? What's the point?

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2015, 11:11:39 PM »
Itīs a little bit strange to ask at a forum of a niche system what the point is when others use their niche system, ...
Beside special software, and the pros of their OS, they perhaps simply like it.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2015, 02:15:57 AM »
i use mac os 9 because its got applications that i want to use on it..
thats what im getting at.. which amiga apps are people wanting to run with morphos? whats the draw to it?
why are these people interested in it? is there any major apps that u know of that run on amiga os that they are looking to run?

ive searched and from what i can tell theres not many commercial apps for this os..
theres no digital media apps.. theres no digital audio apps.. so what the hell are they running on morphos?
games?

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2015, 05:19:20 AM »
this doesnt run on every power mac. they mainly experiment with it and got stuck with a certain type of cube or mini to make it run on macintosh. its a no go and useless unless you find a major software pool. the audio software they had where trackers and 1 midi app i remember was bars n pipes pro which should be available free now on aminet and some servers.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2015, 04:12:36 AM »
MorphOS is just an another nostalgia OS for these with Amiga past. Another ones are AROS and modern AmigaOS, but these currently has no usable Mac ports.

It's main feature is a 68k JIT translator for fast running of an old Amiga apps together with native ones. I doubt it will emulate an old Amiga chipsets though, so app base is limited. And that's all. Sure if you're not for that, you may still like it , since it is very polished, esp. its UI part.

However, imo their dev team chosen a wrong way. Their product is neither open-source nor free. And license is pricey. You may still run it in a demo mode if your PPC Mac is supported, but this means you have only half an hour to work with it, after which it enables slowdown mode, which is totally unusable, means you need to reboot the OS to make it good again :( Afaik there is currently no known illegal way to bypass this.

I personally think it's simpler to find a combo deal ofused PowerPC Mac + MorphOS w license, with good price on eBay or Amiga related forums than to buy license separately. Or one could find an old Genesi Pegasos (II?) computer which will allow to run modern AmigaOS together with MorphOS, which is more win - and also frees Mac to run what its supposed to run, i.e. Mac operating systems :)

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2015, 12:11:36 AM »
theres no digital media apps.. theres no digital audio apps.. so what the hell are they running on morphos?
games?
Hey, an Amiga was a first computer which brought multimedia term in use :)
Yup there were a lot of games. If you mean pro adaptation, original Amigas were usually been used for drawing, video production and early 3D all almost at the cost of a home computer. They were ahead of Macs and PCs of that time. Fast graphics, higher resolution, lower price, etc. Finally apps using programmer hacks to push more from hw.
They also had a good audio, so I suppose there were some audio apps. At least its where first music tracker was born.

As for MorphOS and AmigaOS 4.x, they are mostly an efforts to modernize now dead platform. For correct execution of an old apps Amigans still mostly prefer to use classic Amiga (though usually hooked with a CPU accelerator).
A long time ago a company (I forget the name) put I believe a version of amigaos on a cd and hacked it together with a lightweight linux distro and wine to allow for a somewhat transparent amigaos on a standard pc. The company I believe was sued and shutdown and it only worked with specific hardware.
Do you mean Amithlon? Well if you google with it as query, you'll find some community-updated support packs for it, so I suppose if you have a PC of that time, you're good to go.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2015, 04:39:10 AM »
Hey, an Amiga was a first computer which brought multimedia term in use :)

cumulus was awesome, and many black and white people preferred it over quark express for macos for years. the same is true for midi.
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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2015, 08:10:38 AM »
Amiga was the precursor of NeXT Cube. One of the first computer with coprocessor for Audio and Video. Also had 4 channels instead of the 3 from Atari ST fm. Trackers born there. And Scene releases too.

There is no nVidia support

http://www.morphos-team.net/hardware

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Computers

    Apple eMac*

    Apple iBook G4

    Apple Mac Mini G4

    Apple PowerBook G4**

    Apple PowerMac Cube***

    Apple PowerMac G4****

    Apple PowerMac G5*****

    Genesi Efika Open Client

    Genesi Open Desktop Workstation

Important: Please make sure that your pre-assembled computer was configured to include one of the supported graphics card as listed below. Mac Mini owners must only ensure that their computer includes a G4 processor.

* - Only 1.25 Ghz and 1.42 Ghz eMac models are supported.

* * - Only models with a Radeon graphics chip are supported.

* * * - Lacks support for the bundled USB audio hardware.

* * * * - NVIDIA GeForce2 MX and NVIDIA GeForce4 MX/Titanium cards found in some PowerMac3,x models are not supported. Also, audio is currently only supported for PowerMac3,4 to 3,6 models.

* * * * * - Only PowerMac 7,2 and PowerMac7,3 (A1047) are supported. Also, MorphOS will use a maximum of 1GB of memory even if more is installed in the machine.

Mainboards

    bplan Pegasos I (with IBM G3 processor)

    bplan Pegasos II (with IBM G3 and Freescale G4 processors)

    bplan Efika (with Freescale MPC5200B)


Graphics Cards
With 3d hardware acceleration:

    ATI Radeon 8500 LE (R200)
    ATI Radeon 8500 (R200)
    ATI Radeon 9000 (RV250)
    ATI Radeon 9000 Pro (RV250)
    ATI Radeon 9100 (R200)
    ATI Radeon 9100 LE (R200)
    ATI Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)
    ATI Radeon 9200 (RV280)
    ATI Radeon 9200 Pro (RV280)
    ATI Radeon 9250 (RV280)

   

    ATI Radeon 9550 Mobility (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon 9650 (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon 9600 XT (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon 9800 (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon 9800 XT (no W3D)
    ATI Radeon X800 XT / Pro (R420) (no W3D)
    ATI FireGL X3 (R420) (no W3D)

With limited 3d hardware acceleration (W3D legacy software only):

    3DFX Voodoo3 2000 (Avenger)
    3DFX Voodoo3 3000 (Avenger)
    3DFX Voodoo3 3500 (Avenger)
    3DFX Voodoo4 4500 (Napalm)
    3DFX Voodoo5 5500 (Napalm)
    (recognized as a Voodoo4, only one GPU is being used)

   

    ATI Radeon 7000VE (RV100)
    ATI Radeon 7200 (R100)
    ATI Radeon 7500 (RV200)

Without 3d hardware acceleration:

    3D Labs / Texas Instruments Permedia2
    3D Labs / Texas Instruments Permedia2v
    ATI Rage128 Pro
    XGI Volari V3XT
    XGI Volari V5

   

    XGI Volari V5XT
    XGI Volari V8 (Ultra)
    SiS 300 / 305
    SiS 315
    SiS 6326



Sound

    On-board audio on Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio, QuickSilver & MDD - no recording)
    On-board audio on Power Mac G5 (no recording)
    On-board audio on eMac (no recording)
    On-board audio on Mac mini (Apple I2S)
    On-board audio on Pegasos 1/2 (VIA 8231)
    On-board audio on EFIKA 5200B (no recording)
    SoundBlaster Live! (emu10kx)

   


SATA Adapter

    SiI3x1x two-port cards



Ethernet

    On-board 10/100/1000MBit Ethernet on Power Mac G4 (excluding early PowerMac3,1)
    On-board 10/100/1000MBit Ethernet on Power Mac G5
    On-board 10/100MBit Ethernet on eMac
    On-board 10/100MBit Ethernet on Mac mini (Sun GEM)
    On-board 1GBit Ethernet on Pegasos 2 (Marvell Discovery II)
    On-board 10/100MBit Ethernet on Pegasos 1/2 (VIA Rhine)
    On-board 10/100MBit Ethernet on EFIKA (5200B)
    Realtek RTL8139C 10/100MBit

   


Wireless Network

    Atheros 5000 chipset based PCMCIA and PCI cards (USB versions are not supported)

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2015, 08:22:57 AM »

cumulus was awesome, and many black and white people preferred it over quark express for macos for years. the same is true for midi.

Midi shine on Atari ST, somehow more than in Amiga due to the onboard midi interface. All Amiga user had to buy the midi interface.

Also some "black and white" people loved the Atari ST solutions for desktop publishing.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2017, 02:57:56 AM »
So I finally downloaded the isolate and started morphos from disc. Works like a charm on that ti book. Even if it isn't directly supported just yet. There are indeed a bunch of audio apps available.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2017, 10:11:14 AM »
We want a Video!   ;)
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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2018, 09:00:20 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06m8pF_8JpM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06m8pF_8JpM</a>

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2018, 09:01:12 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XL3i1bwiks" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XL3i1bwiks</a>

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2018, 11:05:21 AM »
I was most disappointed by MorphOS yesterday: I tried installing it on my Mini, but two major issues I had were:

- My LED monitor couldn't get to work with it at all, which was extremely painful, because my room setup is one which makes it difficult to switch monitors for the mini, and my other monitors are already pretty occupied. OS X and even OS 9 managed to work with it over a VGA cable (HDMI too, but the picture was horrible, especially in OS 9, despite still being half-usable);

- My LaCie FireWire External HDD wouldn't be detected by MorphOS at all. This was my biggest turn off: I considered installing it to check it out on a 30GB partition dedicated to it, but it's not really something I was dying to do, and even that didn't work. If the Mini's FireWire port won't work for external HDDs, then I honestly have no purpose whatsoever for this OS. Only if it at least worked on the Quad G5 (it doesn't; only earlier G5s are supported), then maybe some years later I'd look at it more seriously, but as is, I can't.

I considered bringing this up to them in their forums, but honestly, time is short, and that is not a priority, so that will have to happen later... My 3.10 CD is more than enough MorphOS contact & resources than I may ever need, until this situation changes (if it does).

At least they DID get sound to work on the mini! (The core reason I even tried it out.)

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2018, 04:20:18 PM »
ill confess i started this thread because of my own curiousity after stumbling upon some pages mentioning morphos..
i was curious as to wwhether or not htis opened up any possibilities for using old amiga octamed software on a ppc g3/g4?
i have more questions than answers tho and ive never taken the time as u did just yesterday to actually investigate it myself by actually installing the thing..
i would have loved to watch a video of someone doing just that
if anyone finds any youtube videos of anyone installing morphos id love to see

i havent really been exploring this topic myself
i dont really know much more then i did in january 2014 lol


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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2018, 10:25:33 AM »
if you use a qualifying mac just download the iso and run it of the disc instead of installing it. its not the fastest way but it gives you a idea. for octamed to work you need a emulation layer like e-ua with roms and some scripts adjusted to make it work but im not sure if and how it will tap the ahi sound device. btw there was/is a octamed studio version loaded with songs and stuff for free. for octamed you might be better of running amikit inside fs-uae with a fully loaded/equipped amiga with all the bells and whistles, that should give you the best compatibilities including 68k amiga ahi.
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2018, 02:57:41 PM »
I don't come from an Amiga background (But rather C64 "OS", MacOS and MSDOS was my primary systems as a kid) - and apparently all this thing that's so amazing and awesome with AmigaOS flies totally over my head.

However I bought both an Pegasos back in 2003/2004- the first system outside Amigas that run MorphOS- I also purchased a license for one of my G5s (Mostly out of support for the people that spent an lot of time to develop it, although I must say I've become quite disappointed in the G5 port considering an update totally broke the SATA bus for me- the G5 doesn't detect anything but the CD/DVD drive nowdays thus is unusable on the G5 on anything newer than the last release that actually worked on it)...

If you expect MorphOS to be something special, something that Mac OS X or MacOS 9 is not- you will be disappointed, the system is in some aspects worse than Mac OS 9- what it has that Mac OS 9 never really had good support for is preemptive multitasking, but that's basically it- outside the fact that the developers did write or port quite a lot of software that makes it somewhat useful if you can live with a system with worse memory management than MSDOS- but for example the OWB browser is a relatively modern Webkit based browser that at least the last time I tried it was quite fast considering the hardware. Other than that it's not much to write home about unless it ticks your Amiga nostalgy synapse- the community is among the worst I ever encountered, while there are some people that are very nice and helpful the vast majority are extremely hostile- too be honest even the simplest question often ends up getting answers similar to what Linus Torvalds (renowned for his terrible argumentation techniques and lack of social skills).

When it comes to productivity software, unless there is some well known open source program that has been ported- you can forget about it, if you're lucky you may find something from the 90s that still works (MorphOS does not emulate the Amiga chipset however, so unless it's a well written (read using only the public APIs) application it just won't work- forget about 99% of all Amiga games, if there is some halfassed productivity software somehow still in development (like for example a decent text editor with chroma coloring support) expect the pricetag to be outrageous.

As for the open source software- it's more of a novelity than something useful, Linux runs it all better and more stable.

If you're interested in retro amiga stuff, better get an amiga emulator.

Sorry if this sounds negative, but I'm trying to be honest about my feelings about it- I did spend over $1500 on MorphOS and related hardware, it's fun to have but was it worth it? No not at all.

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Better clarify,

Did the developers behind MorphOS do something incredible? Yes absolutely they did. And some of them are extremely kind people too (others are complete arses however).
But is it a practical system that breaths new life into your aging hardware? No it's not, it brings features AmigaOS had back in the late 90s- no much happened since.

I'm not trying to say it's a bad system, I'm mainly trying to highlight the only reason people rave about it is because they are Amiga heads- and the Macintosh community would probably claim a thirdparty rewrite of Mac OS 9 would be the best, most ingenious OS ever created as well if it was released today.

But as it's available as a timelimited demo (I think you can run it for 30 minutes at a time- before it essentially crashes) if your Mac supports it, go for it- try it out.
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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2018, 03:06:22 PM »
I don't come from an Amiga background (But rather C64 "OS", MacOS and MSDOS was my primary systems as a kid) - and apparently all this thing that's so amazing and awesome with AmigaOS flies totally over my head.

However I bought both an Pegasos back in 2003/2004- the first system outside Amigas that run MorphOS- I also purchased a license for one of my G5s (Mostly out of support for the people that spent an lot of time to develop it, although I must say I've become quite disappointed in the G5 port considering an update totally broke the SATA bus for me- the G5 doesn't detect anything but the CD/DVD drive nowdays thus is unusable on the G5 on anything newer than the last release that actually worked on it)...

If you expect MorphOS to be something special, something that Mac OS X or MacOS 9 is not- you will be disappointed, the system is in some aspects worse than Mac OS 9- what it has that Mac OS 9 never really had good support for is preemptive multitasking, but that's basically it- outside the fact that the developers did write or port quite a lot of software that makes it somewhat useful if you can live with a system with worse memory management than MSDOS- but for example the OWB browser is a relatively modern Webkit based browser that at least the last time I tried it was quite fast considering the hardware. Other than that it's not much to write home about unless it ticks your Amiga nostalgy synapse- the community is among the worst I ever encountered, while there are some people that are very nice and helpful the vast majority are extremely hostile- too be honest even the simplest question often ends up getting answers similar to what Linus Torvalds (renowned for his terrible argumentation techniques and lack of social skills).

When it comes to productivity software, unless there is some well known open source program that has been ported- you can forget about it, if you're lucky you may find something from the 90s that still works (MorphOS does not emulate the Amiga chipset however, so unless it's a well written (read using only the public APIs) application it just won't work- forget about 99% of all Amiga games, if there is some halfassed productivity software somehow still in development (like for example a decent text editor with chroma coloring support) expect the pricetag to be outrageous.

As for the open source software- it's more of a novelity than something useful, Linux runs it all better and more stable.

If you're interested in retro amiga stuff, better get an amiga emulator.

Sorry if this sounds negative, but I'm trying to be honest about my feelings about it- I did spend over $1500 on MorphOS and related hardware, it's fun to have but was it worth it? No not at all.



so you got access to the discs they packaged for the peg back in the days too? which system did you buy?

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2018, 03:13:22 PM »
I don't come from an Amiga background (But rather C64 "OS", MacOS and MSDOS was my primary systems as a kid) - and apparently all this thing that's so amazing and awesome with AmigaOS flies totally over my head.

However I bought both an Pegasos back in 2003/2004- the first system outside Amigas that run MorphOS- I also purchased a license for one of my G5s (Mostly out of support for the people that spent an lot of time to develop it, although I must say I've become quite disappointed in the G5 port considering an update totally broke the SATA bus for me- the G5 doesn't detect anything but the CD/DVD drive nowdays thus is unusable on the G5 on anything newer than the last release that actually worked on it)...

If you expect MorphOS to be something special, something that Mac OS X or MacOS 9 is not- you will be disappointed, the system is in some aspects worse than Mac OS 9- what it has that Mac OS 9 never really had good support for is preemptive multitasking, but that's basically it- outside the fact that the developers did write or port quite a lot of software that makes it somewhat useful if you can live with a system with worse memory management than MSDOS- but for example the OWB browser is a relatively modern Webkit based browser that at least the last time I tried it was quite fast considering the hardware. Other than that it's not much to write home about unless it ticks your Amiga nostalgy synapse- the community is among the worst I ever encountered, while there are some people that are very nice and helpful the vast majority are extremely hostile- too be honest even the simplest question often ends up getting answers similar to what Linus Torvalds (renowned for his terrible argumentation techniques and lack of social skills).

When it comes to productivity software, unless there is some well known open source program that has been ported- you can forget about it, if you're lucky you may find something from the 90s that still works (MorphOS does not emulate the Amiga chipset however, so unless it's a well written (read using only the public APIs) application it just won't work- forget about 99% of all Amiga games, if there is some halfassed productivity software somehow still in development (like for example a decent text editor with chroma coloring support) expect the pricetag to be outrageous.

As for the open source software- it's more of a novelity than something useful, Linux runs it all better and more stable.

If you're interested in retro amiga stuff, better get an amiga emulator.

Sorry if this sounds negative, but I'm trying to be honest about my feelings about it- I did spend over $1500 on MorphOS and related hardware, it's fun to have but was it worth it? No not at all.



so you got access to the discs they packaged for the peg back in the days too? which system did you buy?

I don't recall getting anything packaged with my peg except for an version of MorphOS 1.x (don't remember the exact version), I did purchase a software pack called "The super bundle" however.
I bought the Pegasos 1 G3 (with the "April 2 fix", I believe 600 Mhz, haven't started it in quite some time though but I still have the machine), ironically the hardware was so bugged that MorphOS was basically the only system that run on it without random freezes and crashes- unless you disable DMA and can live with a seriously crippled harddrive/cdrom bandwidth.
On that particular machine MorphOS runs quite well however.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2018, 03:19:59 PM »
yes i was talking about the super bundle. i didnt know you had to buy it afterwards, thought it was more like a catch to get people to buy the machine. it contained a amiga prostation audio license from memory. if you got it let me have a copy of all the discs i like to disect it and see what it is all about. i run morphos on a ti book and it runs ok. memory leaks and some other flaws but ok so far. for some reason on my mini it wont run as stable as the ti book.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2018, 03:58:31 PM »
yes i was talking about the super bundle. i didnt know you had to buy it afterwards, thought it was more like a catch to get people to buy the machine. it contained a amiga prostation audio license from memory. if you got it let me have a copy of all the discs i like to disect it and see what it is all about. i run morphos on a ti book and it runs ok. memory leaks and some other flaws but ok so far. for some reason on my mini it wont run as stable as the ti book.

I might misremember, I'm fairly certain I paid for it but perhaps that was because it was a hardcopy- it seems to been available for download at one point too.

I'll see if I can find it and rip at least that CD- but since my upload speed is pretty limited (1Mbit) I'm not that keen on ripping all 4 cds, but remember we're talking about something that's about 15 years ago I obtained- and haven't touched since either.

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Re: what is MorphOS?
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2018, 04:08:10 PM »
that would be great. amiga had a few good audio appz back in the day.