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Offline w3sl33

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MDD or Quicksilver PT
« on: October 29, 2020, 07:47:23 AM »
I have a Mix+ setup on a Quicksilver dual 1Ghz and wondering if I should get an MDD dual 1.25Ghz? I'm using a Keyspan Pro PCI card for my serial connection with
an Opcode 5LX and an MOTU MTP AV connecting my synths. Not even sure of the compatibility with the MDD. How do you know which MDD is the wind tunnel version? BTW this forum is great. Really learning a lot.  :)

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2020, 09:01:46 AM »
MDDs are a lot louder.

I would keep with the GHz dual QS. I have one.
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2020, 09:20:38 AM »
Right? That's my hesitation. I remember at the time there was a lot of hoopla about the noise. I would have to put it in another room when I track.
Hard to say no to a cheap MDD though. . . Quicksilver has been very good with PT LE and TDM so I'll take your advice and stick with what works instead of what might.

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2020, 09:21:59 AM »
MDDs are a lot louder.

I would keep with the GHz dual QS. I have one.

Any advice about how to make it quieter? Maybe a new fan? I hear the computer on all the vocal tracks! 8)

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2020, 10:02:31 AM »
MDDs are a lot louder.

I would keep with the GHz dual QS. I have one.

Any advice about how to make it quieter? Maybe a new fan? I hear the computer on all the vocal tracks! 8)

Just search the forum, we probably have a dozen topics on exactly how to quiet QS and MDD units and which fans to get

Found a few, there are more

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4936.msg35847.html#msg35847

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4150.msg28490.html#msg28490

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,5081.msg37480.html#msg37480

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2020, 10:06:27 AM »
one day we shall merge those into one.

oh right, new fans (for everything). need to put that on my christmas list.
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2020, 10:13:33 AM »
MDDs are a lot louder.

I would keep with the GHz dual QS. I have one.

Any advice about how to make it quieter? Maybe a new fan? I hear the computer on all the vocal tracks! 8)

Just search the forum, we probably have a dozen topics on exactly how to quiet QS and MDD units and which fans to get

Found a few, there are more

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4936.msg35847.html#msg35847

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4150.msg28490.html#msg28490

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,5081.msg37480.html#msg37480

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2020, 10:47:30 AM »
Just use the other room. And buy that cheap MDD and put a 001-AMIII system to do Altiverb+Delays and the other MIX stuff to the other room.

A quieter mix room is better for your music. Do it today!
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2020, 10:58:51 AM »
Just use the other room. And buy that cheap MDD and put a 001-AMIII system to do Altiverb+Delays and the other MIX stuff to the other room.

A quieter mix room is better for your music. Do it today!

You're right I've been looking for the motivation to drill a 8 inch hole through the closet wall which goes into the clothes closet in the adjoining bedroom.
I just have to snake the 2 ADAT bridge Y cables and Mix, Core cables etc through the wall and then it will be nice and quiet. Vocals I should just do in the bathroom which is 8 ft from the PT desk and AD/DA.

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2020, 11:21:47 AM »
i would prefer to have the computer in another house in another village, then drill wholes through all houses in the way between there and here.

it is probably still simpler than mounting new fans or using a silent rack.
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2020, 11:37:05 AM »
In a village renting is cheaper than a pair of noctua and a real silent rack.

Jokes aside you can have the PRO vs CONS in the "Machine Room"

PROS:

Quieter  :-X

Healthier / Every hangs you have to exercise and go the other room.  ;D

CONS:

Louder

Easy to reboot.
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2020, 11:49:10 AM »

You're right I've been looking for the motivation to drill a 8 inch hole through the closet wall which goes into the clothes closet in the adjoining bedroom.
I just have to snake the 2 ADAT bridge Y cables and Mix, Core cables etc through the wall and then it will be nice and quiet. Vocals I should just do in the bathroom which is 8 ft from the PT desk and AD/DA.
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You mention only the G4 in machine room, but Digi stuff has fans?


Otherwise is too much

I have 2 RJ-45, 2 VGA, 1 DVI, 4 USB, 2 ADAT and a RCA SPDIF. Going ADC there soon thanks to a unicorn cable donated to me, a ADC extender cable
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2020, 04:54:00 PM »
True Digi stuff heats up the room. Only fans I hear are from the computer though. Silence is golden. Now I have gobos shielding the computers to stifle the noise. Im going to drill the wall for sure so I dont get a PT allergy by way of noisy puter

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2020, 06:59:08 AM »
using another room only works when the room is directly behind your monitor.
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2020, 08:07:53 AM »
using another room only works when the room is directly behind your monitor.

With VNC it can be on other village...

8m of VGA is cheap compared to ADAT. A powered USB extender can come in handy too.

You aproach the machine in other way when you cant hear the fans. Period.

As OP said you can put only the G4 there or you can put also the Digidesign ADAT IO and PSU there.

In my city, the biggest studio (Phil Newell designed) here has the machine room in the back of the engineer(7m) and the recording room in front of. Before protools they had an 486 hard disk recorder from OTARI. Then they moved to a G3 MIX ++ in a machine room. Then they moved to a G4 800 Dual on the mix room behind the desk for a few month before they could get longer cables. Then moved to G5. Not sure what they have now, but the Genelec and the Protools controller are there almost since begginning.


12 years ago Asereje was made by Queco here:
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2020, 07:35:50 PM »
Just use the other room. And buy that cheap MDD and put a 001-AMIII system to do Altiverb+Delays and the other MIX stuff to the other room.

A quieter mix room is better for your music. Do it today!

I put the computer in the other rooms closet. Drilled through the wall and snaked the cables through. Totally psyched about the lack of noise.
Only thing I hear now is the Akai sampler buzz.  8)

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2020, 07:46:02 PM »

Only thing I hear now is the Akai sampler buzz.  8)

if you can stomach the cost, get an LED-backlit display for the Akai. Ive got an S3200XL which had a hella loud whine, replacing the LCD with an LED-backlit allowed me to completely disconnect the display inverter, no more coil whine. Ive since done that to all my gear that uses those displays, except for my kurzweil. pricey, but worth it.
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2020, 05:52:23 AM »

Only thing I hear now is the Akai sampler buzz.  8)

if you can stomach the cost, get an LED-backlit display for the Akai. Ive got an S3200XL which had a hella loud whine, replacing the LCD with an LED-backlit allowed me to completely disconnect the display inverter, no more coil whine. Ive since done that to all my gear that uses those displays, except for my kurzweil. pricey, but worth it.

I have a 3000XL, 2000XL and a CD3000i my main samplers. I have a K2000 but when I replaced the EPROM I must have zapped something because now the outputs are distorted and the sound is not usable so I use the K2000 as a controller.  :-[  I will check out the LED displays. The 3000XL has a good original one but the CD3000i is barely visible.

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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2020, 10:17:54 AM »
Now that the Hole is done, get the MDD!
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Re: MDD or Quicksilver PT
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2020, 08:34:54 AM »
Now that the Hole is done, get the MDD!

How is it with PT MIX+? I dual boot OS9 (mixing) and 10.3.9 (tracking)
It might be a good time for me to either get a new power supply for the Quicksilver or replace it with another or an MDD.
It is having boot issues, won't turn on sometimes. Just keeps re-booting every few seconds. Finally got it going but wondering if there are too many cards and such ?
Keyspan serial card, Atto UL3D, Mix farm, Mix core, graphics card.