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Digidesign Sound Designer II
ssp3:
Why are you posting this nonsense and confusing people?
Sigh..
AtariMan:
Sound Designer works with Pro Tools 3, Audiomedia 2, Audiomedia 3 - no plugins.
Everything else is fantasy.
ght4361:
Alright. I finished checking the manual but there are a few things I don't get.
1. Perhaps I have overlooked this, but I don't understand if the various processes are performed in real-time or if they function more like Audacity (set up the parameters, render the clip and if you don't like it, undo, change the parameters, render again etc). The discussion here has led me to believe that they are real-time: https://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=218838 .
2. From what I see, the maximum audio resolution is 16-bit, 48khz with the Audiomedia III. Could the Pro tools III provide 24-bit, 48khz through its own converters or is the bit depth limited by Sound designer itself?
3. There is no mention of DSP plugins in the manual. Maybe they weren't compatible with the Atari version. I've read that the Waves suite was available.
--- Quote from: AtariMan on September 09, 2020, 08:41:27 AM ---Sound Designer works with Pro Tools 3, Audiomedia 2, Audiomedia 3 - no plugins.
Everything else is fantasy.
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Supposedly it did support plugins according to this thread: http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=331578 . But I really don't know the details. That's what I've been trying to figure out.
ssp3:
Crossfades and individual region's gain adjustments are in real time (in playlist window).
Normalize, change gain, EQ(?) etc. are all rendered "offline".
Plug-ins are not supported on PCI hardware, only on NuBus.
http://archive.digidesign.com/support/faq/sd2.html
Audiomedia III is full 24 bits on digital in/out. Analog part is 18bit in/out, limited by the A/D and D/A chips used. If recording to 24 bit file, remaining bits are filled with zeros.
http://archive.digidesign.com/support/propix/AM3.html
Sound Designer is 24 bits, if set up that way.
IIO:
--- Quote from: ght4361 on September 09, 2020, 09:08:22 AM ---
2. From what I see, the maximum audio resolution is 16-bit, 48khz with the Audiomedia III. Could the Pro tools III provide 24-bit, 48khz through its own converters or is the bit depth limited by Sound designer itself?
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when SDII app came out that was before OS 8 - and some 7 or so years before PT had 24 bit file support.
so even if it would work to work with 24 bit files, what is it good for to have an editor on an operating system where there is no multitrackrecorder and no dac with 24 bit? and which was targeted towards 8- 12- and 16-bit samplers and allows rates down to 8khz.
not to speak of the RAM and storage options in these days.
--- Quote ---Supposedly it did support plugins according to this thread
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yeah, but not on AMIII. probably a pure marketing decision. my card came bundled with PT and they wanted you to use that.... and well, most if not all SD plug-ins are also available for AS (not sure about JVP), so could just use PT as your editor app.
as for your "looping" request, you can use infinity for that in a 16 bit world. it is from the same man anway. :)
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