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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2020, 02:33:00 PM »
ide2m2 ??

this style.

they are mostly white, sometimes black, and exist for 2280 as well as msata. starting at USD 10 and easily fit into a mini.

the delock clamp is 3 mm thicker and 30 dollars.^^
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #76 on: September 02, 2020, 04:23:09 PM »
Samsung Evo 860 "probably" DON'T works on Mac Os 9 (tested is needed)

Most likely works, as the higher-end MLC version, Samsung PRO 860, works on my MDD (with Marvell-based SATA-to-IDE adapter) under 9.2.2.

2TB version, no less.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-SATA-Internal-MZ-76P2T0BW/dp/B07879KC15

I also got the EVO version in mSATA form factor (with a non-Marvell adapter) on my PowerBook 15" DLSD working just fine, but that machine isn't running OS9 yet, so that doesn't count, but may be worth mentioning.

I'd like to try the 4TB PRO version on the MDD with OS9 someday, but I'm not confident that would work, simply due to drive (not partition) size. But I later realized that it's likely better to buy multiple 256 GB SSDs and configure them as a single partition with RAID 0, as far as optimal speed is concerned. No idea what RAID 0 software for OS 9 is available for this purpose, though, if any. Any ideas/pointers?

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #77 on: September 03, 2020, 05:46:03 AM »

raid? the 860 pro has some 500/500 read/write speed, which is 4 times higher than the IDE bus you are connected it to.

but feel free to try that proposed 4TB method, we are waiting for someone who can do a practice test. :)
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #78 on: September 03, 2020, 12:36:45 PM »
raid? the 860 pro has some 500/500 read/write speed, which is 4 times higher than the IDE bus you are connected it to.

Yes, but put 2 SDDs in 2 separate IDE buses with a single RAID 0 partition, and you got yourself IDE speeds x 2. Add PCI SATA cards, and you got yourself 3, 4 etc. buses, all writing to and reading from in parallel. :)

That's the theory, anyway, and we need RAID 0 software for it to work. I believe it likely exists for OS 9, but would have to look.

PPC OS X has built-in RAID 0 support which works that way. I just don't invest on that instead because, well, it's not Mac OS. 8)

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #79 on: September 03, 2020, 12:55:46 PM »
yeah that what i was thinking, for IDE there is no software solution foir OS9.

btw. i have read a few reports from people which said that using an SSD with OS9 or with very slow OSX PPC machines would have made the performance of other componenty sloppy.

say like dropouts in games or choppy video.

so eventually it is not the best idea to max out your mass storage speeds when you dont have a good bunch of RAM in your machine? or what other reasons could cause that symptome?
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2020, 01:34:39 AM »
What about SCSI RAID 0 software solutions? Got any names? As you may already know, SATA support for OS9 in SATA cards is done by tricking the OS into recognizing them as SCSI cards, to eliminate the need for drivers.

"Drop out in games" and/or "choppy video" from mere SSD use is simply impossible. Even if the SSD was finally about to die, and that was to interfere, it would outright crash the game, video player and/or the OS. If anything, it would have the opposite effect, because less energy is drawn from the PSU and less heat is generated, in case components started lacking the required energy, and/or started getting too hot to properly function.

Have had an SSD on the mini since the beginning, and my MDD is also functioning better than ever with this monstrous SSD. Not even once did I experience any such issues, and I played all sorts of games extensively, from Diablo II and Battlin' Babe to Escape Velocity, Mars Rising and Marathon. Same for OSX PPC, for an even longer period of time.

The cause(s) is(are) certainly elsewhere. I.e. bad displays being used, bad GPUs, usage of virtual memory etc.. It'd be relevant to know what machines are being used, exactly, too. It could very well be the machine simply doesn't meet the game or video requirements from the beginning, like a slow processor or slow GPU. (And, no, storage capacity doesn't change RAM requirements in any significant, if even in any, way.)

There's also the issue that some people call microSDs or Compact Flash (CF) drives "SSD". :) Although that still shouldn't cause those specific problems. Although it may be worthwhile to know what drive adapters they may be using.

In short, assuming the reports are real or accurate, there is without doubt misattribution to the cause of the problems. We can actually try troubleshooting them if you provide links to them. Only issue is that it'd be a bit offtopic, because it's not SSD-related. :)

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2020, 03:14:49 AM »
no these people were not available to troubleshoot their problems. would have loved to discuss it. :)

about scsi raid, what software would that be? and what would happen with a software raid solution when you boot into OSX?
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2020, 09:28:46 AM »
and what would happen with a software raid solution when you boot into OSX?

Using an OS9 RAID solution, then booting into OSX? That's actually a very good question... I'm assuming at worst it would not recognize the drives and ask for them to be reformatted, and at best, it would recognize them like a single drive just fine, but that depends on how it really works behind the scenes.

But first, we would need some OS9 RAID software. I will try to have a look next weekend, I'm sure I can find something...

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2020, 06:54:34 PM »
switching to SSDs via ide adapter in my main quicksilver next week, wish me luck.
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