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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2020, 02:02:48 AM »
heh. Amazon (Germany) is selling a 1TB(!) Samsung EVO 850 mSATA for 450€.  Anybody brave enough to give it a try?


While it is in German, somebody on amazon commented that they got a Samsung EVO 860 mSATA to work in their PowerBook G4!

I've got another ide to msata adapter arriving on Monday for the Lombard, so I can test how 8.6 likes the mSATAs
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2020, 02:31:28 AM »
heh. Amazon (Germany) is selling a 1TB(!) Samsung EVO 850 mSATA for 450€.  Anybody brave enough to give it a try?


While it is in German, somebody on amazon commented that they got a Samsung EVO 860 mSATA to work in their PowerBook G4!

I've got another ide to msata adapter arriving on Monday for the Lombard, so I can test how 8.6 likes the mSATAs

It won't work in a Pismo.

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Re: List SSDs w/ OS 9
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2020, 05:42:40 AM »
New news?

we shall find out what the difference between the EVO 960 2,5" and the mSATA version actually is.

if there is NO difference between them, this raises up new questions about connection type and stuff  - wise as we are, we started collecting the complete info with host computer, controller, and disk - but as it seems we have also to distinguish between  the different SSD formfactors or firmware version.

it is like shaving the yak, even if you reduce the data to G4 and 9.2.2.
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2020, 05:49:14 AM »
OS9 apparently has a software “volume limit” (not drive limit) of about 190GB.

2000. because of APM file system.
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2020, 01:25:52 PM »
Hi, welcome to the forum ! What PPC Mac do you plan to use a 1TB M2 sata card in ? For OS 9, 1TB is overkill as the OS can only see 128GB of it, but for OS X, no limit - tiger or Leopard will make use of it.
Thank you. I have a few iMac G4, a 700 Mhz, 1 Ghz, and a 20'' 1.25 GHz. Also an eMac 1.25 Ghz and a 1.42 Ghz. Last is a PowerMac G4 MDD DP 1.42. The PMG4 will probably be the first to try, as it is the quickest and easiest to test. The Samsung EVO 860 is a straight 2.5 SATA drive, not an M2 SATA, mSATA, etc. It's also not really intended to be permanent. It was a test buy for a different computer, that I haven't yet tested, since I was trying it out in a 2010 white polycarbonate MacBook and never got around to doing anything else with it. It just happened to be on sale for about $100 at the time, and matched what I was looking for to try on a different computer. I saw no reason to buy the newer form factor/faster drives for a higher price for no speed benefit. I might end up keeping it in the PMG4, since I was planning on using that as possibly a OS9 & X machine maybe. Still not 100%, I might just decide that it will be an OS9 only machine. I'm willing to test on all of those machines, as I haven't gotten to doing a deep clean of them, and one of the eMacs was only bought to fix up the other because the case was damaged during shipment. I probably won't be able to test them all on the same day, since it will take time to disassemble all of them. Would it be as easy as just installing the unsupported hardware OS9.2.2 on the drive, and simply connecting them to all the machines?
     Also when I was buying the drive over a year ago?, I read some stuff about the smaller capacity EVO 860 might have some compatibility issues due to a different controller? being sometimes used in them, but not in the higher capacity ones. I do not remember what the cutoff was. Maybe some of the issues with an 860 not working is because of this? We will find out if my 860 works, when my StarTech adaptors get here sometime next week and I can test it out.

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2020, 03:00:17 PM »
It won't work in a Pismo.

there is a special high capacity driver for OS X (Jaguar and up) https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/speedtools-ata-hi-cap-driver


The manual mentions that there's a Mac OS 9 version of their software that can install the classic device drivers.  They recommend a boot partition of 127,99GB or smaller for that (so as not to exceed the 128GB limit), the rest can be for whatever you need. 

Now I think I should get that 256GB mSATA to test ... but ... it's not as if I need extra space on my Pismo or iBook ...


I know I saw a video in the last few months of somebody install a high capacity sata drive in their G3 iMac.  I can't find the video now, but I'm pretty sure they used the speedtools driver.
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2020, 04:43:59 PM »
Thank you for your advice. I have tried that driver years ago when I had a Sawtooth. Didn’t like it then. This is really only for OS 9 and Tiger. 128Gb is fine for my needs. Now, if it was a MacBook Pro ? Then 1-2TB yes, but those are “living” machines.

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2020, 03:58:48 PM »
Tommy Yune
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. Takes up half the space of the original drive. Works fine with 128GB mSATA cards from chromebooks
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2020, 04:30:07 PM »
Anyone interested in a PMG4 MDD SATA3 SSD ide to sata adapter shootout?



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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2020, 11:14:28 PM »
Copy paste from another thread.

My 860 EVO 1TB drive works in my 1.42DP PMG4 running unsupported hardware 9.2.2. Used the StarTech adaptor.

Made a 120GB compatible partition on the drive. It already had High Sierra installed from using with my 2010 white MacBook. Installed the custom OS 9.2.2. Haven't really done much with it, except to boot to see if it loads up. 


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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2020, 03:31:56 AM »
Anyone interested in a PMG4 MDD SATA3 SSD ide to sata adapter shootout?

would you have a search phrase for the yellow guy?
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2020, 04:12:54 AM »
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My 860 EVO 1TB drive works in my 1.42DP PMG4 running unsupported hardware 9.2.2. Used the StarTech adaptor.
Haven't really done much with it, except to boot to see if it loads up.

now the next interesting things to try would be:

2,5" EVO 860 with cheap green adapters
2,5" EVO 850 with startech adapter
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2020, 10:10:46 AM »
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My 860 EVO 1TB drive works in my 1.42DP PMG4 running unsupported hardware 9.2.2. Used the StarTech adaptor.
Haven't really done much with it, except to boot to see if it loads up.

now the next interesting things to try would be:

2,5" EVO 860 with cheap green adapters
2,5" EVO 850 with startech adapter

If only my eyes weren't bigger than my wallet. I wouldn't mind trying these, but tunedbytad's rig, now has me rethinking not getting a PCI Sata card, and extra goodies. Maybe also a 5.1/7.1 sound card for games. Were there even any games that had 5.1/7.1 sound in OS9/PPC X? Plus I must figure out/remember/fix my old Win PC with AGP slot so that I can flash AGP cards for Mac.

Edit: Just browsing Amazon, these were like the top three hits... if these are market prices... it makes no sense to buy an 850 if they are mostly the same as the 860 just newer. These are 2.5'', wonder if the M2s are the same price spread.
EVO 860 500GB - $89.99
EVO 850 500GB - $141.58
EVO 850 250GB - $99.99
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2020, 10:40:42 AM »
If only my eyes weren't bigger than my wallet.

it is on my "far future" to-do list to swap all HDs for SSDs. but in my case that would be a matter of >5000 dollars.
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2020, 10:44:53 AM »
I can run the m.2 evo 860 on the yellow Startech dual sata and the black dual sata
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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2020, 11:51:36 AM »
ah, yet another startech, and yet another "dual". plus it is bidirectional.
 
i still dont have the full picture what this "dual" is about and where we could need it.

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #56 on: May 11, 2020, 03:10:20 PM »
Going out on a limb here… “Duals” can either mean Master + Slave jumper settings OR EVEN Master, Slave AND Cable Select jumper options setttings????

I’m inclined to go with the Master + Slave for “Dual” …which might then make the M / S / CS bridges “TRIPLES”?

And it’s getting more than just a bit confusing now… with the m.2 introduction.

And what’s with the yellow colored “StarTech dual” pictured above? I assume that the jumper(s) allow the choice between Master or Slave? (And no choice of Cable Select.)

AND Congrats to XinSheng on his successful OS 9 boot with a Samsung EVO 860 w/ StarTech adapter.

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #57 on: May 11, 2020, 03:20:58 PM »
Want to report this m2 Msata drive boots into OS 9 and X

According to a post from the 68kmla website, a user there used this and it works perfectly. Add this to the list.

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2020, 04:33:08 PM »
I am using a "Transcend SSD340" (not the 340K version) without any issues, as well in my PM9600 as in my MDD (2003).

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Re: List of SSDs that works with Mac Os 9
« Reply #59 on: May 11, 2020, 07:17:17 PM »
the Yellow startech and the Black offbrand ide to sata adapters both have 2x SATA ports
these can run TWO sata drives at the same time from one adapter if you set the jumpers
just the same as the ATA 33/66/100 on the 40/80 pin IDE port with cable select jumpers.

only problem is I cannot close the case once plugged into the G4 MDD ATA100 port
I purchased an IDE 40 PIN 90 male / female ribbon cable but it seems to make the adapter non operational.
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