M-audio 410 AGAIN

[Andre Solomko]

Dear fellows. I know a its beaten  to  death. ANYONE EVER HAD THIS THING WORK PROPERLY ON OS9? WHAT MACHINE WHAT DRIVER ETC....

[macStuff]

are you talking about the firewire 410? or the pci 410?

https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/
https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/FW410_OS9_1.0.2_b25.sit
https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/Firewire_410_v1.0.1_build3.bin
https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-

https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/D410_2.0.0.sea.hqx
https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/MultiASIO_Delta%20410_Beta.sea
https://web.archive.org/web/20040629062228/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/MultiMac410Beta.sea.hqx

[IIO]

it was one of the first cards i had after the audiomedia III and it worked mostly okay, with both soundmanager and ASIO.

i sometimes thought it makes problems in a certain application, but that could be wrong as well. it worked perfectly with cubase, sonixworx, peak, the tools of the time.

the first machine was a 7300, but i´ve tested it also in a digital audio dual 533 and in a 2001 QS.

there are cards which sound better... but it should work fine.

oops, wait i had a 44. different thing.

[Andre Solomko]

Of course  about firewire which is notorious. PCI was 44 but i may be wrong

[macStuff]

i have like 7 x 410 cards
the delta 410s are 2 analog in, 2 digital in / 8 analog out, 2 digital out (ie : 4 ins / 10 outs = 410)
44 didnt have 8 out

[Andre Solomko]

Very well I stay correcred Anyway question was about FW.

[macStuff]

download the driver and install it i posted it first post above

[Andre Solomko]

Link is broken thank you. Before posting a question i tried v 1.0.1 and 1.0.4 anyway. Its a horrible phased  sound which was already described  here in some posts.

[macStuff]

if i were you id verify it works on another osx or windows computer before trying to get it to work in os9

[Andre Solomko]

Sure i did verify before asking.It works  at all range from Panther to High Sierra

[IIO]

Of course  about firewire which is notorious. PCI was 44 but i may be wrong

yeah its a PCI, thats why i pulled my experience report.

[Andre Solomko]

ОК let me start over: DID ANYONE SUCCEED. WITH Maudio Firewire 410 with OS9.2 IF YES WHAT DRIVER AND WHAT CONFIGURATION. There were 10replies but we did not move any further.PLEASE REPLY ONLY IF YOU HAD A REAL EXPERIENCE NOT HYPOTHETIC. THANKS..

[Mardeec]

Hi Andre,

I'm sure you've read the long thread in which GaryN and others helped me for weeks in trying to get a FW410 working with OS 9.2.2 on a G3 iMac.  My FW410 unit works fine in OS X and Windows, but never any success with OS 9.2.2.  I'll search through the forum every so often to see if someone's come up with solution, but I don't have high hopes.

[Andre Solomko]

Thank you.. yes i found a thread and it doesn''t look promising. I am almost convinced about firmware theory..

[macStuff]

https://www.macintoshrepository.org/9571-m-audio-firewire-drivers-macos-9-
https://web.archive.org/web/20040114221437/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/Firewire_410_v1.0.1_build3.bin
https://web.archive.org/web/20050309164352/http://www.m-audio.com:80/images/global/drivers/FWUni_OS9_1.0.4_install.bin
^^ FWUni_OS9_1.0.4_b42_install
did u guys try the drivers?

are u sure u were installing on macos9.22? (latest os version, not 9.2, 9.1, 9.0 etc)

did you read the manual? did you follow the directions?
https://www.fullcompass.com/common/files/5527-FireWire410Manual.pdf

have you been unplugging + replugging when the computer is on?

ATTENTION: You must shut down your computer any time you wish to
connect or disconnect the FireWire 410 from the system. Failure to do so
may cause damage to your computer’s or FireWire 410’s FireWire ports.

did u try to connect the firewire 410 before installing the drive?

NOTE: Do NOT connect the FireWire 410 to your computer until you have run the installer application and shut down the system.

did you find the ASIO driver file after installing the driver?
did you copy the ASIO file to the folder of your application?

[IIO]

Hi Andre,

I'm sure you've read the long thread in which GaryN and others helped me for weeks in trying to get a FW410 working with OS 9.2.2 on a G3 iMac.  My FW410 unit works fine in OS X and Windows, but never any success with OS 9.2.2.  I'll search through the forum every so often to see if someone's come up with solution, but I don't have high hopes.

who would not remember this thread. which was mostly full of assumptions, too.

finalizing in a claim in caps lock that there wouldnt be any OS9 drivers.^^

[Andre Solomko]

Also you forgot to mention Quicktime v6.03... i just wonder where else you could install ASIO drivers. I think i clearly said that i have phased sound on low level. Anyway that means that host application has detected device. Otherwise you can not have any sound, can you? And there is nothing OS9 specific in manual. Exactly the same procedure even on High Sierra.SO QUESTION REMAINS: IS HERE ANYBODY WHO SUCCCEED WITH 410 firewire on OS9?

[macStuff]

to say that it just doesnt work is obviously not correct
the product was reviewed in many differnt magazine publications
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/m-audio-firewire-410
obviously it worked at that point in time and should be able to work now
if it didnt work in os9 they would have reported that fact as the article above
explicitly mentions macos 9.2 and the box itself says 9.2.2 right on it so obviously it did work


unless there actually was a firmware update that most people used that rendered the box incompatible
but i cant find the existance of any firmware update for the firewire 410 that could have ruined os9 compatibility

if the firmware file cant be found; then its still possible that there was seperate batches of these interfaces made at different times back in the 2004-2005-2006 time period resulting in different versions of firmware direct from factory, but all of this is speculation

are u powering the device with its original Power supply? or powering the device from its Firewire connection? i just read that the box claims it can be powered via the firewire connection.

does anyone have a copy of the original driver cd? (photo attached)

[Andre Solomko]

I have seen short message *updating firmware* while installing Sierra driver. (In reality its Lion driver but can be done on Sierra, even Mojave.) So I am positive that firmware update is embedded in driver. That explains a lot. But probably its not true about OS9..driver was meant to work with factory firmware.

[macStuff]

the only way to know for sure is to buy a brand new unused firewire 410;
if all this firmware update theory is in fact true; then it would/should be the same case for the other model, the firewire 1814 interface;
but ive not seen anyone have any problems with that model (that i can recall off the top of my head anyway)

honestly tho; why not just buy a first generation Motu 828 and be happy

is the firmware updating driver an official m-audio driver?
or is it this 3rd party driver for osx? http://maudio.boards.net/thread/4/firewire-working-capitan-install-package