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Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« on: December 26, 2016, 06:08:02 AM »
Hey everyone,

been thinking about a side-project for the holidays and the idea that I came up with is to create a Website on customizing Mac OS 9.

I always loved the freedom the classic Mac OS gave me in terms of creating the productive environment I want. Be it changing the entire OS theme to give it a new look & feel or customizing the Apple Menu. Certainly many OS X users coming back to Nine don't even know (anymore) about the vast possibilities our beloved OS offers.

My idea is to shed a light on some of the more popular features along with downloads of popular themes and wallpapers.

I'd write a very low-weight hand-coded page that is fully Classilla-compliant. Possibly even supporting older browsers. Basically, I think it'd be awesome if you could surf the page using a text browser like WannaBe on your old 1996 PowerMac and download a new desktop wallpaper.

Granted, there are several places that host such files. But really, I feel there is a niche for a page that covers all that stuff in detail and allows for ways to explore the capabilities of Mac OS 9.

Now before I'd get working and sink several hours of work into it, I'd like to hear back from ya'll. Is that something that you would be interested in using?
« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 06:30:05 AM by Bolkonskij »

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 06:21:59 AM »
Yes! It's something i would love to see and use. I'm thinking of making a Mac OS 9 related links and News page with links to everything even remotly pre-OSX related.

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 06:34:30 AM »
Thanks for the feedback! It's the old MacDomain gang that keeps things going, eh? :-)

I love your idea of creating what could basically be the "Home Page" of every classic Mac OS user. This definitely deserves another a thread of it's own! Go ahead and open one :-)

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 06:51:21 AM »
Thanks for the feedback! It's the old MacDomain gang that keeps things going, eh? :-)

Indeed ;)

I can't do the site on my own though. There's too much work keeping up with all the new stuff happening and maintaining everything. I am a part of Macintosh Garden nowdays as well, but I would love to make the Mac OS 9 home page come true and I don't think there will be too much work if I can assemble some dedicated and interested people to join me  ;) *wink* *wink*

I know that Mat here on the forum is interested in something like this.
Maybe the "home page" can be combined with your customizing page in some way?

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 07:07:40 AM »
This seems to call for an e-world 2.0, huh? :-)
 
Count me in! Can we somehow branch this into another thread to continue talks on how we'll be proceeding?


« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 07:25:50 AM by Bolkonskij »

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 08:42:38 AM »
Thanks for the feedback! It's the old MacDomain gang that keeps things going, eh? :-)

I love your idea of creating what could basically be the "Home Page" of every classic Mac OS user. This definitely deserves another a thread of it's own! Go ahead and open one :-)

and we thought that is MacOS9Lives.com
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 02:50:04 PM »
I'm still waiting for someone to re-write our site :(

www.macos9lives.com

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 03:57:50 PM »
I'm still waiting for someone to re-write our site :(

www.macos9lives.com

Yeah. It looks like we need an entire reference section with like, charts and shit stuff.
Hell, we still don't even have a file index for all of the little bits and pieces of invaluable drivers and such.
What started out as a forum has become a kind of "OS9 Central" where one finds (if one can) the most advanced and esoteric information available regarding all aspects of our beloved old OS.

I would do it if I could but I'm just not the coding kind.
What we need is a sane Chris…

OR…

What do you think it would cost to get somebody with skills to create such a beast? Someone smart enough to "get it" and young enough to do it for less than the gig is worth?
Maybe we could run a private Kickstarter thing here to get it happening. I'm good for 50 bucks or so…

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 04:02:51 PM »
Thanks Gary,

I like the idea of it being Forum based and having the actual downloads as read only boards with links... but many cannot find what they need quickly.  Every-time we make more boards at the main site, I get complaints that the main forum page is "too long"

But with many child boards, people don't know where to find things...

Do you guys think we should move more boards at the root level ?

This will make main page grow longer

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 06:17:05 PM »
what i sometimes miss is an option to have all post in one big list, sorted by last activity, because it is actually hard to refind posts.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 01:52:26 AM »
I'm still waiting for someone to re-write our site :(

www.macos9lives.com

Yes, but iirc you wanted it just like it is now, just a more modern look. This is not what's being discussed :)

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 02:04:06 PM »
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Yes, but iirc you wanted it just like it is now, just a more modern look. This is not what's being discussed :)

I welcome any ideas, a complete re-write with a vintage or modern look is fine :)

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2016, 04:13:04 AM »
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Yes, but iirc you wanted it just like it is now, just a more modern look. This is not what's being discussed :)

I welcome any ideas, a complete re-write with a vintage or modern look is fine :)

Look, yes, but we want different information/data on the site compared to macos9lives.com. This is what you wanted to keep like it is IIRC. So then theres nothing else to do than starting another site for that :)

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2016, 05:28:44 AM »
What I wouldn't mind is a more centralized and clear location for the projects that want to extend further OS9. While discussion about it on the forum here is good, information on these projects is scattered and downloads are too. Though I wouldn't mind seeing such information on the MacOS9Lives website, but maybe under a different tab?

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2016, 06:29:35 AM »
What I wouldn't mind is a more centralized and clear location for the projects that want to extend further OS9. While discussion about it on the forum here is good, information on these projects is scattered and downloads are too. Though I wouldn't mind seeing such information on the MacOS9Lives website, but maybe under a different tab?

That's exactly what i feel as well and want to create. I have no problem with it becoming the new main site of Macos9lives.com, but I strongly feel that it cannot be just another forum, the information would simply just get lost.

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2016, 11:25:58 AM »
Maybe we can combine our efforts? It'd be sad if the remaining Mac OS 9 would further scatter. There must be so many more OS9 users left we need to gather under one roof.

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2016, 02:33:57 PM »
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Look, yes, but we want different information/data on the site compared to macos9lives.com. This is what you wanted to keep like it is IIRC. So then theres nothing else to do than starting another site for that :)

The Digital Audio Aspect can just be another TAB/Location. I NEVER said or claimed I that I did NOT want to change the main site and open it up to all Mac OS 9 users.  Chris was the "Audio Only" advocate, but we don't have to worry about that anymore :)

I have no problem re-arranging the forum and/or changing the main site to have a landing portal for all OS 9 users.  Also, a direct link to the garden.  There is always a better way

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2016, 02:56:58 PM »
I'm still waiting for someone to re-write our site :(

www.macos9lives.com
I like this landing page very much and am happy that it hasn't changed since a long time back and I know some quick info I sometimes need to point someone in other forums to are found there, because I don't have to fight with a new design or something, where the content has been rearranged completely.

RE the opening post.
Hey everyone,

been thinking about a side-project for the holidays and the idea that I came up with is to create a Website on customizing Mac OS 9.

I always loved the freedom the classic Mac OS gave me in terms of creating the productive environment I want. Be it changing the entire OS theme to give it a new look & feel or customizing the Apple Menu. Certainly many OS X users coming back to Nine don't even know (anymore) about the vast possibilities our beloved OS offers.

My idea is to shed a light on some of the more popular features along with downloads of popular themes and wallpapers.

I'd write a very low-weight hand-coded page that is fully Classilla-compliant. Possibly even supporting older browsers. Basically, I think it'd be awesome if you could surf the page using a text browser like WannaBe on your old 1996 PowerMac and download a new desktop wallpaper.

Granted, there are several places that host such files. But really, I feel there is a niche for a page that covers all that stuff in detail and allows for ways to explore the capabilities of Mac OS 9.

Now before I'd get working and sink several hours of work into it, I'd like to hear back from ya'll. Is that something that you would be interested in using?
You mean like a teaching site which explains people how they can change the look of OS9 in the preferences that are in OS9 from stock?

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2016, 03:09:52 PM »
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Look, yes, but we want different information/data on the site compared to macos9lives.com. This is what you wanted to keep like it is IIRC. So then theres nothing else to do than starting another site for that :)

The Digital Audio Aspect can just be another TAB/Location. I NEVER said or claimed I that I did NOT want to change the main site and open it up to all Mac OS 9 users.  Chris was the "Audio Only" advocate, but we don't have to worry about that anymore :)

I have no problem re-arranging the forum and/or changing the main site to have a landing portal for all OS 9 users.  Also, a direct link to the garden.  There is always a better way

Then we're on the same page Jerry. I must be thinking of Chris somehow. Sorry :(. Me and Bolkonskij are working on a new design and we will let you know when we have something to show you :)

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2016, 06:41:28 PM »
guys, dont get lost in design and content questions ^^ - the first choice which has to be made is what concept the site should have and who and how should decide things.

i personally wouldnt mind if we add photoshop plug-ins (because i still lack 3 or 4) but we must be careful that we dont end up collecting BeOS distributions or discussing nitendo games.

i can tell you from my experience that it wont work out to install anarchism and take it for democracy. if the site owner lets everyone join the team of decision makers, this only starts a neverending dicussion about possibilities instead of someone actually working on things.

about the start page, i dont like it. but the point is, i dont mind that i dont like it, it is not my business. it is not my site, and i am free to bookmark the forums only.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2016, 02:47:06 AM »
I read through all the posts, and I definitely like that most people seem to agree there needs to be better organization, somehow.  There is a lot of good technical and theoretical info in the discussions, and plenty of good downloads, but so much of it is scattered about, and would definitely be confusing to newcomers as well as people who frequent the site for a while.  I think that is the sentiment from several people anyway.

And it isn't specific to this forum either!  I think I recently said that in a post, that depending on the forum, the "search" function can be hit or miss, and you may recall having seen a discussion on a certain topic, but most of the search results can be somewhat irrelevant.  Sometimes you have to look carefully.  Some threads start off as a certain topic, but evolve into something else. 
Then again, the question also seems to be about the main page, not the forum?  That it is rather simplistic, and most of the deeper knowledge is buried in the forums, which may or may not be confusing to navigate, depending on what you want to find?  I agree on that.  And some of the posts have attachments that can only be seen if you're actually logged in, so a casual browser might miss something important.  Coming to mind right now are some benchmark charts involving various HDD speeds regarding eSATA cards and the like.

I guess I have nothing much to add, except I agree there needs to be a bit more cohesion, categorization and organization in both the main portal as well as the forum.  I think that's the main theme here, anyway??  ???

To get to the point, I encourage and support some kind of redesign and reorganization of both the forum and the main site!  :P
 


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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2016, 11:57:05 AM »
Very Good Points here...

It would require a lot of work, but I envision the main page www.macos9lives.com to have more information that needs to be gathered from the forum posts for both newbies and veterans in many of the areas of both hardware and software. 

To clarify, we could have a a sections/tabs on the main page that explain:
1) HARDWARE: CPU Upgrades, Video Upgrades, SSD Upgrades, SATA Cards
2) SOFTWARE: Model Specific information on Mac OS 9,
Unsupported Models that we have Mac OS 9 running on, etc.

There is so much great information here, but to read thru entire threads and then compile the info. into a clear read only format and post it statically on a web page is another story.  The Domain in paid for the next several years, but I would happily pass the work to a great Web programmer, since my time is about zero these days.

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2016, 12:40:27 PM »
those links should either contain articles written by members - or point to the appropriate forum section, which would have to be created first.
"It is true that the "pre-emptive multitasking" advantage present in OS X can be illustrated by downloading CD-ROM ISOs and rendering chaos theory formulas while simultaneously instant messaging and posting on FaceBook what you ate... but in reality, what did you create?"
- DieHard, random forum troll at macos9lives.com

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Re: Website about customizing Mac OS 9?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2016, 01:55:38 PM »
Sounds good... any takers ?