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G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« on: June 30, 2016, 08:34:00 AM »
Hi everyone,

I'm using a G4 with Digital Performer 3 and I own an Akai S612. I don't have the floppy drive system for the S612 and would rather not due to size of the drive (2u space) and rarity of the media.. so a buddy of mine has sample wrench for pc which does the trick, but i figured maybe there were some programs of the PPC generation that could do this as well?

I don't have Peak (yet) but wonder if it or other programs were able to do this kind of function. I do have Unisyn 1.5 but it doesn't directly support the S612, but maybe it has a generic SMDI feature? Studio's in a bit of disarray as I'm remodeling/restructuring it but I had this question and wanted to post it to see what I might want to hunt for while I'm not in there rewiring everything :)

Thanks!
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Re: G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 08:57:13 AM »
i also have an s612 + a g4 with dp3....also with no disk drive unit;)
so i will be watching this thread

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Re: G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 11:31:09 AM »
There is an "Eprom" OS Update 1.3e for that unit that may extend it's data saving capabilities...
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interface for tapedump of the sample data (instead of saving to disk)

Don't know if you can track down the updated Eprom, but here is some info:
http://fa.utfs.org/diy/akai_s612/update.html

Lastly, here's a guy that also uses SAMPLE WRENCH (PC Based) via Bootcamp, but you need an Intel Mac

https://jimatwood.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/akai-s612-vintage-sampler-review/


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Re: G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 11:41:17 AM »
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There are ways to load and save samples using SYSEX now that don't require an Atari ST (or an ST emulator)

So emagic Sound Diver on a Mac may actually do it :) But, don't ask me how :(
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,1016.0.html

Maybe you can email the SAMPLE WRENCH author for the commands

UPDATE:  Think here is all the hEX Strings you need :)
http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/s-612/s-612.htm

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Re: G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 12:15:15 PM »
yea i'll have to try that out.  i know that Unisyn has a fixed list of supported devices.. which is why i question if it would work, but yea this would be good.

i have pcs and intel macs.. but in my music studio i'm trying to have it be only the OS9 computer for all musical / midi needs.. :)    will keep searching and i will try that program out once i get things hooked up. 

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Re: G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 08:53:05 PM »
I used to have an S612 but had to sell it a while back. IIRC it had really rudimentary I/O and no SCSI. But I did experiment a bit with MSD which did work. Transferring banks via MIDI sample dump on a later polyphonic sampler can be grueling tedium, but since the S612 has little memory, it is not too bad. I used the info from the wiseguysynth page DieHard posted to make a Max patch long ago, but I lost it with my old system.

I did also pursue that v1.3e ROM, but besides being rare, it also includes hardware mods. So one apparently can't just download it from the net. The guy who developed it is not interested in circulating his mods for free or DIY use.

The S612 is a fun box for hands-on sound mangling. I still have a broken one which I might fix someday if I ever get the time. And maybe add CV summers so I can externally modulate the loop slider controls. It does have a lot of potential for mods, but its build is as such that one really does have to completely disassemble it to properly access the good stuff. One of the easiest tricks is using the 13-pin DIN plug on the back to break out the separate voices. Wish I had more time to play with the working unit.

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Re: G4 OS9 options for SMDI file transfers for Akai 612
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2016, 06:12:46 AM »
I happen to own an Amiga 1200 which does have sample wrench for it as well (amiga, pc and no mac version?)..  so that might be something i could try, but i really don't want to rely on the amiga to do this if i can find an OS9 solution and keep all my recordings / samples on the same system.  The amiga is treated as a MIDI instrument..  as it can be an 8 bit sampler..  8bit soft synth or 8-bit real time effects processor..

Also though I came across a classic program i'd forgotten about in my forum surfing on this subject..  recycle!  http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/recycle-20 which i hear has good hardware sampler support as well and this is for OS9..  and it's ability to slice up samples could be handy too. 

@Metrophage yes you are right.. no scsi.. it had an optional quick disk drive.  my buddy was willing to give me his, but honestly given how hard it is to find the media.. and the fact that the drive takes 2U rack spaces.. just not worth it when i could do it over midi.. and yes it would be slow on bigger recordings but seeing it has a max memory of 128kb.. that's bearable..  :)    Also if you needed more motivation to fix up the broken 612 you have..  a guy out there is working on a mod chip you can install (takes some soldering) but it basically opens up a bunch of the parameters to be fully MIDI CC controllable.  I'm not ready to take mine to that level..  i'm also not familiar with CV Summers.. some quick googling showed me a little about it but not much..   this is the chip i was talking about..  some samples in there..  https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-electronic-music-production/1079521-prototype-akai-s612-midi-front-panel-animator.html