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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2016, 04:47:41 PM »
Everyone gets so caught up on the size of the chip, The size of the chips is really not important here

The problem is that the firmware preforms a flash id check, if the firmware detects the flash chip is not a am29lv040, mx29lv040 or pm39lv040 the firmware will refuse to load. You can cut down the firmware to fit on the 1mbit flash chips the cards ship with but they still won't work as they will still fail the flash id check.

To get the firmware to work on these cards unmodified you would need to disable this check and cut the firmware down, the latter process being (in theory) quite easy (probably just cutting out the compressed OSX kexts in the firmware that aren't needed for our uses would do). The former is the difficult one, and thus far I haven't seen any one who has accomplished it.

At this point the only option is to swap the flash chip with one of the 3 mentioned above, they are a standard standard size but for some reason are pretty hard to come by (I guess that's why seritek chose them....)

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2016, 08:14:23 PM »
i remember all of those details.. so yea..
its public knowledge now.., the goal is to 1) backward engineer + remove both the brand + size checks from the firmware 2) reduce the size anyway possible, one way possibly being by removing the osx related code.. (it was also thought that there might be further code-logic where the script inside the firmware checks the size of the firmware itself to make sure it hasnt been tampered with etc)


once thats accomplished, it would make it possible for anyone to get a SIL3112 card and be able to use any mac or pc to re-flash a card without doing any physical hardware chip swap - de-soldering + re-soldering

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2016, 11:56:52 AM »
Interesting, Just been re-reading the thread over at 68k and just noticed something interesting about what dougg3 said about the flash id check

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The firmware extracts a couple of kexts into OS X, and one of the kexts checks for supported flash chips during the OS X boot process and fails to load if the board doesn't have a supported flash chip. (In fact, on a newer revision of the firmware that they don't have available on the website for download, it causes a kernel panic...)

So the driver checks the flash chip and not the firmware, dougg3 only ever looked at the OSX kext's - this leaves a real good chance that the OS9 driver might not.
If this is the case we may be able to just cut down the firmware after all.... Looks like I have some testing to do at the weekend :)

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2016, 03:23:15 PM »
Everyone gets so caught up on the size of the chip, The size of the chips is really not important here

The problem is that the firmware preforms a flash id check, if the firmware detects the flash chip is not a am29lv040, mx29lv040 or pm39lv040 the firmware will refuse to load.


well the 040 indicates the size of the chip.. (4M-BIT [512K x 8] but you probably know that already) .. so the size of the chip is part of the check for the specific size + make that was part of the check that was thought to exist in the firmware.

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #79 on: October 24, 2016, 08:20:38 AM »
Is this still something we are working on?

I'm having a heck of a time finding any SATA cards that are native. I see these si(i|L)3112 cards for $8 on ebay. I don't see any confirmation that the $8 cards work. One post was the first went well, the next two failed.

Do we know what the firmware instruction set is for REing it? Or any more real info?


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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #80 on: October 24, 2016, 08:15:08 PM »
Is this still something we are working on?

I'm having a heck of a time finding any SATA cards that are native. I see these si(i|L)3112 cards for $8 on ebay. I don't see any confirmation that the $8 cards work. One post was the first went well, the next two failed.

Do we know what the firmware instruction set is for REing it? Or any more real info?


the SIL cards themselves dont work untill they are modified by a professional whos familiar with the process in making them mac bootable..

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2016, 08:57:46 AM »
Is this still something we are working on?

I'm having a heck of a time finding any SATA cards that are native. I see these si(i|L)3112 cards for $8 on ebay. I don't see any confirmation that the $8 cards work. One post was the first went well, the next two failed.

Do we know what the firmware instruction set is for REing it? Or any more real info?


the SIL cards themselves dont work untill they are modified by a professional whos familiar with the process in making them mac bootable..

Is there a defined process for modifying those cards that is public?

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #82 on: October 25, 2016, 10:22:29 AM »
Is there a defined process for modifying those cards that is public?

Yes, it's public but complex: You have to change the EPROM of the card and flash it with the Mac Firmware.
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2016, 10:38:43 AM »
Just wanted to share the QuickBench results from my KingSpec 120gb SATA SSD connected to the Sil3114 based card I bought from max1zzz.

QuickBench™ 1.5 Test Results File
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Test file created on fredag 25 november 2016 at 19.37.39
Test Volume name: Copland

Xfer Size     Sequential Read   Sequential Write    Random Read      Random Write

1 KByte         3.772 MB/sec    565.163 KB/sec      2.134 MB/sec    577.968 KB/sec
2 KBytes        7.202 MB/sec      1.110 MB/sec      7.250 MB/sec      1.127 MB/sec
4 KBytes       12.749 MB/sec      2.228 MB/sec     12.346 MB/sec      2.186 MB/sec
8 KBytes       23.196 MB/sec      4.101 MB/sec     19.734 MB/sec      4.214 MB/sec
16 KBytes      20.864 MB/sec      8.297 MB/sec     28.591 MB/sec      8.505 MB/sec
32 KBytes      62.751 MB/sec     16.107 MB/sec     36.350 MB/sec     15.476 MB/sec
64 KBytes      78.340 MB/sec     28.115 MB/sec     47.863 MB/sec     27.315 MB/sec
128 KBytes     89.580 MB/sec     43.093 MB/sec     39.700 MB/sec     42.769 MB/sec
256 KBytes     96.779 MB/sec     59.297 MB/sec     59.275 MB/sec     61.216 MB/sec
512 KBytes    100.766 MB/sec     77.188 MB/sec     76.233 MB/sec     76.578 MB/sec
1 MByte       102.913 MB/sec     89.473 MB/sec     95.815 MB/sec     78.484 MB/sec

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #84 on: November 25, 2016, 02:37:20 PM »
Just wanted to share the QuickBench results from my KingSpec 120gb SATA SSD connected to the Sil3114 based card I bought from max1zzz.

I would swear max1zzz does magic on 3112
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2016, 10:23:15 AM »
So the SeriTek/1v4 arrived today from Italy. I took out the Sil3112 based card I bought from Max and put the SeriTek in it's place. The first thing I did was take some new benchmarks with QuickBench.

So this is the exact same SSD with the same 9.2.2 installation I used with the Sil3112 card.

QuickBench™ 1.5 Test Results File
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Test file created on torsdag 1 december 2016 at 18.19.38
Test Volume name: Copland

Xfer Size     Sequential Read   Sequential Write    Random Read      Random Write


1 KByte         4.498 MB/sec    688.468 KB/sec      3.342 MB/sec    723.170 KB/sec
2 KBytes        8.677 MB/sec      1.377 MB/sec      9.825 MB/sec      1.411 MB/sec
4 KBytes       15.241 MB/sec      2.712 MB/sec     16.758 MB/sec      2.782 MB/sec
8 KBytes       27.832 MB/sec      5.247 MB/sec     28.123 MB/sec      5.420 MB/sec
16 KBytes      25.469 MB/sec      2.950 MB/sec     40.406 MB/sec     10.234 MB/sec
32 KBytes      76.238 MB/sec     19.184 MB/sec     51.610 MB/sec     18.941 MB/sec
64 KBytes      94.812 MB/sec     33.307 MB/sec     67.067 MB/sec     33.499 MB/sec
128 KBytes    112.289 MB/sec     51.318 MB/sec     82.476 MB/sec     52.636 MB/sec
256 KBytes    120.314 MB/sec     72.897 MB/sec    109.185 MB/sec     73.063 MB/sec
512 KBytes    125.294 MB/sec     90.588 MB/sec    118.810 MB/sec     91.037 MB/sec
1 MByte       127.379 MB/sec    105.403 MB/sec    122.983 MB/sec    104.777 MB/sec

You can really see that the 64bit SeriTek gives an overall speed improved.
I'm very satisfied with the results  -afro-

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2017, 12:04:18 PM »
Hmm. Been a bit busy, maybe I missed something. Has anything new been learned or has a wiki been made with a flashing process and proper chips, etc for making this work?

I'm fine with soldering / flashing it myself; It just appears to be a bit scattered as far as info goes for me. I'd like a confirmed process that seems to be the agreed upon way to do this and not "Oh this guy said this and then did this and then vanished. Some other guy used this and it worked maybe...".



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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #87 on: February 06, 2017, 07:10:37 AM »
I'm watching the item below. Anyone use this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142222150212

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #88 on: February 06, 2017, 08:13:51 AM »
I'm watching the item below. Anyone use this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142222150212

It does not support Mac OS 9.
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2017, 01:50:28 PM »
I'm watching the item below. Anyone use this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142222150212

It does not support Mac OS 9.

Apologies; was too focussed on looking at it working with the Power Mac G4 and not the OS!

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #90 on: February 20, 2017, 01:43:21 AM »
Managed to get a 2-port Sonnet SATA card here in the U.K. Will install in one of my mirror door G4's when time allows. Amazed to find one!

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2017, 04:20:03 AM »
Well, I finally got around to replacing the flash on the card I mentioned earlier. Have the Seritek 1S2 (v5.1.3, I seem to recall there being others, which I have yet to try) firmware on it right now. The card shows up, as well as the attached SSD, and I can start initializing the disk, but then it just... sits there, being busy... updating the screen every second or two so it's not totally stuck. Is that a known failure mode? Do I have to install to an IDE drive and clone that to a SATA one, maybe?

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #92 on: July 06, 2017, 07:18:56 AM »
my sonnet recently started to do weird things in both OS9 and OSX. there is also a chance that the problems are caused by a dying quicksilver PSU, but otherwise i tracked it down to the sonnet card by a long list of tests.
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #93 on: December 19, 2017, 03:25:17 PM »
I recently bought a Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 and several Firmtek/Seritek 1SC1 adapters. I put the jumper on a Seagate Barracuda 750 Gb drive to set it for master, put the 1SC1 adapter on it, and plugged the cable into the 1V4 card. Then I selected OS 9.2.2 as the boot drive (on the Seagate) and restarted the G4 (AGP with a 1 GHZ upgrade). The G4 booted into 9.2.2 just like it was supposed to. So that was step one in a project I am working on. Neal Lewis

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #94 on: December 24, 2017, 08:16:38 AM »
the combination of a pci sata card and a healthy modern hard drive = disk performance that i would have loved to have had
back in 1999, 2000, 2001 time period, for g3s + lower end g4's i think its a must have upgrade for any serious hobbyist or vintage mac enthusiast!

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2017, 07:25:38 AM »
All the SATA PCI cards for Mac os 9 are 32 bits.

I was wrong here... the Seritek 1eVE2+2 and the Seritek 1V4 are both 64 bits.

It would be interesting to see some test results with those SATA cards against this adaptors.



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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #96 on: December 26, 2017, 12:22:21 PM »
it would be an amazing accomplishment to be able to find an easy modification to allow the generic SIL3112 cards to be able to be mac os9 bootable..

looking at the graph above just posted by mactron, yes the 64bit is far + away the leader .+ "BEST" but for me, the performance of the sil3112 is not far behind but the biggest difference is the PRICE! these sil3112 cards are only 10$ a pop or can be found in large quanitities + availability; wheras the 64bit ones are hard to find and about 3-4 times as costly,
small price to pay to have the BEST for those who are obsessed with achieving the best performance..

but for me, im more than happy with the performance jump simply using a sil3112 pci card over the built in disk which can be ATA33 or ATA66 or ATA100 depending on which PCI MAC you are using..
because of the PRICE! is so cheap..  the main problem is the stupid tricky firmware.. performing all these unneccessary checks..with the sole purpose of ensuring their own profit margin,

whats funny to me is that the creators of the seritek firmware + other bootable sata firmwares, this is not something that they "OWN COPYRIGHT OF" because noone can "OWN" the ability to boot the mac.... except for maybe apple.

these developers who developed this firmware must have done so with the help of apples developer support, somewhere, there must be information on how to achieve this, if only we could find someone who is a firmware programmer; i think if it were possible to remove these unneccessary steps from the firmware, or to create a new, bootable firmware, that this might shave some seconds off the startup time and also remove some other "hardware incompatibility" that has been observed as a result of the firmware "messing up" its configuration at boot time;

if only we could find someone who is a firmware programmer

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #97 on: June 03, 2019, 06:30:52 AM »
@ widter: How is this work going?

ive ordered a card on which to test with ; and ill be attempting to get this 'done' myself

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #98 on: June 03, 2019, 06:33:44 AM »
I'm watching the item below. Anyone use this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142222150212

It does not support Mac OS 9.

the sil3114 has been confirmed to work on a powermac g4 under osx after being flashed with the sil3112 wiebetech firmware; i plan on attempting to do the same with the seritek 1s2 firmware;

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #99 on: June 03, 2019, 07:06:33 AM »
time to kick this up a notch + get this done - for the benefit of all ppc macos users worldwide
we need a new source of bootable pci cards
im not gonna sit back and watch losers sell tempo sata cards on ebay for 400$

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2019, 06:32:35 AM »
Just bought a Tempo Sata X4p for experiments and modifications.
I'll change for sure the connectors (I'll add 4 internal serial ata connectors instead of the external ones) and I'll check if macos 9 can boot. Later, I'll check for the chipset and the ROM content.

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #101 on: November 18, 2019, 06:57:36 AM »
Can someone post for me the exact codes/photos of the original seritek roms ? To be honest, instead of find a firmware programmer, I think I can simply buy a batch of 10/20 chipset compatible cards, swap the rom chips and sell them to you all.
Tell me if you are interested.

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2019, 04:02:10 PM »
in my opinion it would even make a lot of sense if it was not bootable.

(best option to boot is a small SSD with a 3 euro adapter from ATA the 100 controller of the 2001 - mdd macs; in te case of quicksilver you easily get that SSD in the case in addition to 4 3,5" HDDs)

it just has to work properly in OS9 - including a simple to use option to update the firmware / reflash it for everyone - and people will buy it.

isnt the X4 a bit too pricey as basis? for what do you think you could offer modified cards?
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« Reply #103 on: November 19, 2019, 02:39:10 AM »
in my opinion it would even make a lot of sense if it was not bootable.

(best option to boot is a small SSD with a 3 euro adapter from ATA the 100 controller of the 2001 - mdd macs; in te case of quicksilver you easily get that SSD in the case in addition to 4 3,5" HDDs)

it just has to work properly in OS9 - including a simple to use option to update the firmware / reflash it for everyone - and people will buy it.

isnt the X4 a bit too pricey as basis? for what do you think you could offer modified cards?

I bought the X4 because I need it under mac os X on a G4 MDD; I'm curious to see if a drive or raid formatted with the os9 compatibility flag will work under os9, which is present on my G4 on another drive. The chipset on the X4 is probably a Marvell one; don't know how many cards around have the same chipset.

The idea is to buy some cards, which we know are compatible at 100% with the Firmtek chipset, unsolder the rom, put a plcc32 socket on the board and insert the rom which we know is compatible with the firmtek updater. I think we are in the range of 25-30 euro for a card. I'm doing some experiments with scrappy cards here to see if it can be done without problems.

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« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2019, 01:18:10 AM »
your best bet (highest rate of success) would be to find more sil3112 cards someplace

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #105 on: November 20, 2019, 02:46:34 AM »
your best bet (highest rate of success) would be to find more sil3112 cards someplace

I bought from Amazon this card



The chipset is ok and I can buy them in good quantities. The only doubt I have is on the ROM chip position.
As you can see from the image, there are small components around, exactly where I wanna put a socket for the ROM. I have probably to solder the new chip directly on the board.

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« Reply #106 on: November 20, 2019, 11:28:20 AM »
the final product should in all cases support JBOD
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #108 on: November 20, 2019, 05:45:09 PM »
1s2 ... "not compatible with quicksilver" :)

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #109 on: November 20, 2019, 06:24:12 PM »
I recognize this is off topic but,

Also curious that the same seller listed above has a 256mb Nvidia card listed as compatible with OS 9 (No 3D accel):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/nVidia-Geforce-5200-256mb-AGP-Video-Card-For-Apple-PowerMac-G4-G4-Cube-VGA-x2/264411989688

they are also listing the radeon 9700 128mb here:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATi-Radeon-9700-PRO-128mb-AGP-Video-Card-For-Apple-PowerMac-G4-G5-AGP-OS-9/264514597602?hash=item3d964c72e2:g:gPMAAOSw7iZdt-cr


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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #110 on: November 21, 2019, 07:51:44 AM »
Update : I received the PCI card and, surprise, the chipset is Silicon Image 3512, not 3112.
As far as I know, the 3512 chipset is a revised version of the 3112, so....as I already wrote, I will try to solder the socket and put the new rom before try to update it with the seritek firmware. Let's see what happens....

(positive thing: the rom has no smd components around, so I can simply manage to solder the PLCC32 socket).

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« Reply #111 on: November 21, 2019, 07:46:42 PM »
I recognize this is off topic but,

Also curious that the same seller listed above has a 256mb Nvidia card listed as compatible with OS 9 (No 3D accel):


he also has usb enclosures labelled as "firewire 400" ... as always, use ebay with caution :D

but it is great that someone at least cares about our retro OS and offers such cards.
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« Reply #112 on: November 22, 2019, 06:44:37 AM »
I recognize this is off topic but,

Also curious that the same seller listed above has a 256mb Nvidia card listed as compatible with OS 9 (No 3D accel):


he also has usb enclosures labelled as "firewire 400" ... as always, use ebay with caution :D

but it is great that someone at least cares about our retro OS and offers such cards.


Honestly....they don't care about retrocomputing at all. They simply stole works done by other from forums and groups and they try to gain money, that's simple. As you can see, they want 50$ from a card that, in quantity, you can pay under 10$; a compatible rom, if needed, is under 3$. Solder the new rom and put on the new firmware is something you can do in half an hour. I already seen this stuff around; a complete ripoff of a dac converter built by a guy on a public forum.....sold by chinese vendors at a price which is a 1/3 of the original one.

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« Reply #113 on: November 22, 2019, 07:47:30 PM »
yes of course is it only a business for them, but as you say, it is 30 minutes work and the 45 euros would include shipping within europe - i would get one if it would support my QS machines.

no doubt i´d rather buy from you.
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« Reply #114 on: November 23, 2019, 09:24:42 AM »
Works started, first check of the pinouts of the rom chips.
They are phisically interchangeable for sure but some pins of the original memory are NC (pin 1 and 30); on the bigger rom chip are adress lines A17 and A18. Vcc is 5 volts, so no problems here (some chips run on 3.3 volts).

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« Reply #115 on: November 23, 2019, 09:45:02 AM »
On SiI 3512 chip, the address lines to check are pin 55-56.

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« Reply #116 on: November 24, 2019, 01:28:41 PM »
I am very curious if this end up to be an OS9 solution... Surprised Macstuff has not responded

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« Reply #117 on: December 09, 2019, 06:13:46 AM »
for those who were reading the thread above.. the user named widter has informed me that he has no intention of making his firmware hack public now or in the future.. so the search continues.. hopefully i wont give up + ill eventually be able to find someone whos capable of backward engineering the firmware or downsizing it to fit a normal/common size rom chip

1) I have absolutely no need to reverse-engineer it. Guess, why... ;) 8) :P
2) You can't fit it in a smaller chip. The exceptions are the ATA cards. And that simply because hot-swap is not supported in the standard ATA. So the ATA code is much smaller than SATA.

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« Reply #118 on: January 10, 2020, 07:14:46 AM »
it was always theorized that the chips included kexts for osx that might be removed to remove the footprint of the rom, sacrificing dual osx/os9 compatibility for simple os9 compatibility without having to solder a new chip

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« Reply #119 on: January 10, 2020, 09:52:31 PM »
it was always theorized that the chips included kexts for osx that might be removed to remove the footprint of the rom, sacrificing dual osx/os9 compatibility for simple os9 compatibility without having to solder a new chip

I often use LZARI to compress the "9" driver (SIM) and most of the FCode.
It's evil to have a self-modifying code, but it's even more evil not to have anything at all.

The 3124 code is compressed (this is why you won't see much dumping the ROM) and so is the Promise 20268/20269.

The 3124 code remains compressed, but it won't be copy-protected at all.
The reason is to prevent gentleman like our favorite seller from HK officially benefit from the new code, patching what is inside of the ROM.
The Promise code always has to be compressed because the space is ridiculously small.

What is sacrificed is in the first line the PC BIOS, the rest is as it has to be, but no cut (even the BIOS) is welcome.
The BIOS itself can be confusing because many have "software RAID" capability.

I think one should rather go with the (software) RAID from either Intel or SoftRAID.

And from all kind of RAID the easiest + safest is arguably the RAID 10, maybe 50 or 60.
I am using a pair of RAID-10 at both homes, both largely mirrored (except of course the latest stuff).

These RAID-10s are on NAS from Thecus, but I am looking forward to make Marvell SAS chips (inside of Thecus boards) work on "X" or just find the Thecus board with SImage 3132 chips, these would work if the Thecus is converted to a "Hackintosh".


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« Reply #120 on: January 10, 2020, 11:42:08 PM »
right but alot of people here only care about os9 bootability; being able to accomplish that main goal with little care for osx bootability fits a niche want for alot of people here who dont care to dual boot osx/os9 but putting the focus on os9

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« Reply #121 on: January 11, 2020, 06:20:32 AM »
right but alot of people here only care about os9 bootability; being able to accomplish that main goal with little care for osx bootability fits a niche want for alot of people here who dont care to dual boot osx/os9 but putting the focus on os9

And "X" bootability can be achieved even without having the driver in the ROM, both PPC and Intel.
Placing the driver in the ROM is mandatory for "9" and BIOS boot only.

To be honest and without extra unnecessary offense towards the very estimated and very honorable establishment in Redmond, WA: the BIOS has the least priority.




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« Reply #122 on: February 02, 2020, 04:01:26 AM »
Yup, that's the ones I have 2 internal & 2 external.....for some reason I couldn't find it on their site because I couldn't remember the model number. I guess a brain fart or senior moment must have occurred. Bootable OS9 is hard to find. i will run a speed test but it wont be until next weekend.

Any news? :P

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« Reply #123 on: February 11, 2020, 12:10:12 PM »
Yup, that's the ones I have 2 internal & 2 external.....for some reason I couldn't find it on their site because I couldn't remember the model number. I guess a brain fart or senior moment must have occurred. Bootable OS9 is hard to find. i will run a speed test but it wont be until next weekend.

Any news? :P

The "X" driver is I think ready to roll. Completely re-done and updated.
The OF code was updated to the new port multiplier family.
Wasted several days on the flash utility, will waste some more.

The "9" for 3124 is not started, but given the state of the "X" should not take very long.

Took a break for few days.

The Sonnet PATA cards are a triviality, at least enable the Mac mode and let every card being flashed.
Except that I need a Quicksilver or similar Mac. The MDD does not work to flash a virgin (PC-based) card because of the bug in OpenFirmare it has.

Looking to make the driver for Sonnet work with PCIe adapter on any recent Mac, that would solve.
But the 3124 is a priority, in particular that it seem to be one of the fastest adapters possible for a legacy hardware.
I got over 200 MB/Sec on reads and over 170 MB/Sec on writes using a single SSD.

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« Reply #124 on: February 19, 2020, 06:28:40 AM »
Yup, that's the ones I have 2 internal & 2 external.....for some reason I couldn't find it on their site because I couldn't remember the model number. I guess a brain fart or senior moment must have occurred. Bootable OS9 is hard to find. i will run a speed test but it wont be until next weekend.

Any news? :P

The "X" driver is I think ready to roll. Completely re-done and updated.
The OF code was updated to the new port multiplier family.
Wasted several days on the flash utility, will waste some more.

The "9" for 3124 is not started, but given the state of the "X" should not take very long.

Took a break for few days.

The Sonnet PATA cards are a triviality, at least enable the Mac mode and let every card being flashed.
Except that I need a Quicksilver or similar Mac. The MDD does not work to flash a virgin (PC-based) card because of the bug in OpenFirmare it has.

Looking to make the driver for Sonnet work with PCIe adapter on any recent Mac, that would solve.
But the 3124 is a priority, in particular that it seem to be one of the fastest adapters possible for a legacy hardware.
I got over 200 MB/Sec on reads and over 170 MB/Sec on writes using a single SSD.

Sometime today the nice mail lady will presumably deliver to me a SiL 3124 card which I have been waiting several weeks for.

So I look forward to any progress you are making on this project (no pressure ...  ;D)

Best of luck.

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« Reply #125 on: March 11, 2020, 07:36:51 PM »
I'm still trying to get my hands on a Mathey Msata-13UMAC as it looks like it uses the via6421a chip, PC cards based on this are both really cheap and really easy to get hold of. Just I have never seen a Mathey Msata-13UMAC for sale anywhere....

I looked up the via6421a - it looks like quite easy chip. But I don't want to spread all my resources now.
I would rather finish all the 3124 work + CMD 680/3112/3114 first.

Apologies for being slow, I can't work other way than as the engineer and sometimes I could be stuck with design or re-design questions.

The Promise world with 20268 - 20271 is an other thing, they painted themselves into corner with stupidly designed copy-protection.
I already converted one TX2 to the "real thing" (happened few days ago) but successfully ruined other Promise cards I have.

I recall, putting them back to normal is possible with beige machines only.

If anyone would give me access to a "beige" machine in the Frankfurt - Basel - Straßburg - Karlsruhe area would be nice.

Unfortunately I may bring with me a gift no one wants (COVID-19).
So better to wait few weeks.

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« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2020, 10:13:31 AM »
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I recall, putting them back to normal is possible with beige machines only.

If anyone would give me access to a "beige" machine in the Frankfurt - Basel - Straßburg - Karlsruhe area would be nice.

Any member that's close, please get him a Beige Desktop G3, any storage advancements for OS 9 are historic at this point, ant we are blessed to even have a possibility of success.

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Unfortunately I may bring with me a gift no one wants (COVID-19).
So better to wait few weeks.

Let's hope not, don't even say that, you must stay healthy for the collective :)

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« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2020, 01:12:37 PM »
I'm willing to give 10€. Diehard, maybe start a FundMe campaign?
*G4 MDD 1.25GHz (Single 2003)* with 2x 80Gb harddrives, 1Gb RAM, Tascam US-428 and Edirol FA-101 USB/Firewire soundcards-*iMac G3 DV 400MHz* with installs from OS 8.6-OSX Tiger on different harddrives-*Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz* with new SSD ! Love it.

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« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2020, 06:34:19 PM »
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I recall, putting them back to normal is possible with beige machines only.

If anyone would give me access to a "beige" machine in the Frankfurt - Basel - Straßburg - Karlsruhe area would be nice.

Any member that's close, please get him a Beige Desktop G3, any storage advancements for OS 9 are historic at this point, ant we are blessed to even have a possibility of success.

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Unfortunately I may bring with me a gift no one wants (COVID-19).
So better to wait few weeks.

Let's hope not, don't even say that, you must stay healthy for the collective :)

It already happened - and to say the least, it does not affect positively the performance.
I have difficulty to concentrate.
Got lost today with the car and do not even know, where I turned the wrong direction.
Went 77 (this is considered to be traffic impairment), it felt for me like going 100+.
Have to sleep at random times. The dry cough and the headache is horribly annoying.
Pretty much that's it.

Almost everybody has it here, people just don't talk. Was in grocery store (after picking up PCI cards and G4 D/A in the pack station) called "Mix Markt".
That is a store chain similar to Trader's Joe, except most of the produce is from Eastern Europe.
Asked at the check-out, how is the situation in Germany.
In true East European (she was from RU) matter I was told: "Here everyone of us is a PRINCESS" (i.e. is "crowned").

The borders are semi-closed. The main crossing at Iffizheim is monitored by the (French) police - once in a while.
They have special thermometers and can pull over everyone who has fever.
But they flash from the distance, so we can see and U-turn.

The next crossing over the defunct railroad bridge is not monitored at all - so we go there.

The Czech lady who works in the DHL pack station (see G4 D/A) lives in France, she hopes that the border over the defunct railway bridge won't be closed - otherwise people in Germany can't pick up the packages sent from Germany. She is an exception being not ill (yet).

The symptoms - I can testify - are a mere annoyance and reduce the quality of the software unless I pay extra attention.

Far worse than COVID-19 is drinking and driving. And people do that on daily basis. And let's not compare the mortality due DUI vs. COVID-19.



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« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2020, 07:01:56 PM »
Few more examples, how "bad" COVID-19 is.

1) I successfully modified a Promise FastTrak100TX-2 card.
2) After that, I did something I don't remember.
3) After that, I screwed up every single Promise card I have, except the FastTreak100TX-2 above mentioned.

Now, they show up on x64-Macs only. Except the one I modified. I honestly do not remember, what I did!
But the "healthy" Mac-converted FastTreak100TX-2 is here as a witness.

Than... just made a tea, forgot to put the hook on the edge of the glass, the entire thing sunk like a submarine.

Than, as mentioned, got scared driving way to fast. Looked at the instrument: 77mph.
It felt (the road was even like a mirror) driving 105. It's American model, can't get more due electronic speed block.

Other than these... Ah, yes, broke today the green AGP "handle" on the "brand-new" G4 D/A (or whatever it is called, same model as Quicksilver).
Just broke it off. The computer came with 128 Rage Pro (!!!) junk, have bunch of Apple-brand 9000 and 9000 Pro-s, the first thing is of course to throw away the Rage Pro.

But not the way I did!

This is the first time in my life I broke the AGP slot "handle". Not a big loss, but it's amazing how clumsy I became.

And so on.

Bunch of fried Promise cards, one broken AGP handle, kitchen looks like a mess because I am tired and my tea filter hook is yucky = all victims of COVID-19.

People are far more afraid to lose their jobs than to get infected.
As it looks, the second will likely happen anyway: Chancellor Angela Merkel announced, she expects 60-70% of the population to get infected.

I hope, she and her colleagues of other countries will do the job regarding the economy, the panic does not help and there is no need to have it.


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« Reply #130 on: March 14, 2020, 10:42:25 AM »
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Few more examples, how "bad" COVID-19 is.

Unfortunately, souther CA, USA is playing out like a terrible B grade horror movie. Americans, and I am one, are fucking nuts and also quite spoiled.

Running around like it's the great toilet paper famine and being absolute gluttons, taking as much as they can to leave their fellow citizens without.

Hording alcohol and sanitizer wraps, face it, most of us on the planet will get it, the "math" is terrible, the incubation period is too long to stop us from breathing and it appears the thing is pretty hardy living outside of the body.  We can thank the Chinese government for letting their great BIO weapon  get out, a chimp must have bitten a handler (a conspiracy theory...maybe... but a Chinese paper was supposedly printing that back in December); at any rate it is a amazing coincidence that they have their highest security BIO lab in the area of the outbreak. 

Like here, it's the people, not the government always being taken for a ride; so I do not blame the citizens.  Everyone here is in a panic, the media is a bunch of irresponsible assholes; 2nd amendment time... the guy that works for the other company in my office said nothing about toilet paper, but he did mention he bought a few hundred rounds of amo... why ?  They say... because it's the end of times, "the Trump presidency has now given us all a death sentence...it's literally his fault !" "back to commercial"  Morons with an agenda, most of us (well about 50%) are clueless and just "Mooooo" and we lumber along.   What a shit show, time to use my MDD again, unplug the web, and remember simpler times.  On a positive note, 1st Mini from member Mat is ready for giveaway...stay posted


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« Reply #131 on: March 15, 2020, 04:12:13 AM »
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Few more examples, how "bad" COVID-19 is.

Unfortunately, souther CA, USA is playing out like a terrible B grade horror movie. Americans, and I am one, are fucking nuts and also quite spoiled.

Running around like it's the great toilet paper famine and being absolute gluttons, taking as much as they can to leave their fellow citizens without.

Hording alcohol and sanitizer wraps, face it, most of us on the planet will get it, the "math" is terrible, the incubation period is too long to stop us from breathing and it appears the thing is pretty hardy living outside of the body.  We can thank the Chinese government for letting their great BIO weapon  get out, a chimp must have bitten a handler (a conspiracy theory...maybe... but a Chinese paper was supposedly printing that back in December); at any rate it is a amazing coincidence that they have their highest security BIO lab in the area of the outbreak. 

Like here, it's the people, not the government always being taken for a ride; so I do not blame the citizens.  Everyone here is in a panic, the media is a bunch of irresponsible assholes; 2nd amendment time... the guy that works for the other company in my office said nothing about toilet paper, but he did mention he bought a few hundred rounds of amo... why ?  They say... because it's the end of times, "the Trump presidency has now given us all a death sentence...it's literally his fault !" "back to commercial"  Morons with an agenda, most of us (well about 50%) are clueless and just "Mooooo" and we lumber along.   What a shit show, time to use my MDD again, unplug the web, and remember simpler times.  On a positive note, 1st Mini from member Mat is ready for giveaway...stay posted

Hehe, most people from Marseille to Moscow can't buy any ammo legally and easy way.
I mean, in both places I could if I would apply to all permits - but 99.99....9% of the people don't waste their time with such stupidity.
Actually, who would be allowed - won't want to get that permit anyway.

In my case I would rather buy few (more) good PCIe - PCI(-X) bridges that work.
See the update with AHCI on G4.


The situation here is that everyone who can tries to stay at home, hoarding is less prevalent (but I did see some simplicities buying tons of meat).
Who have to work, trying to get away with jokes and sarcasm.

The mortality statistics is far better, than reported, that is for sure. The statistics how many people are sick is completely off, probably by x10 or more.
The reason is no one wants to go to hospital and being locked away. So only people who are really ill report the case.
The rest trying to fit a new AHCI controller in an old G4MDD. That is a 400FW G4, I just upgraded the processor with a pull from a 800FW machine.

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,5385.0.html

So in the theory - since I wrote the AHCI driver for G5, later I could port it to G4 as well.
The controller is a common Marvell, the trick is the CORRECT bridge!

I am using the StarTech which is slightly more expensive, about $30 - $50 on fee-bay.
Do not buy the Chinese-made one for $20-$25, it DOES NOT WORK, PIECE OF JUNK.
The one which works is made in Taiwan.

Say thanks to "COVID-19", would not happen that soon, staying ill within 4 walls is sometimes not that bad.
My "crown" is already over 10 days "old", so statistically it means ca. 10 more days. 8)

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« Reply #132 on: March 17, 2020, 07:13:55 AM »
Hey (S)ATAman... How are you doing? I hope you're starting to feel better! Your 'real world' reporting was more informative than all of the 24/7 news channels here in the US!! Get well OS9 brother!! :)

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« Reply #133 on: March 17, 2020, 05:01:17 PM »
Hey (S)ATAman... How are you doing? I hope you're starting to feel better! Your 'real world' reporting was more informative than all of the 24/7 news channels here in the US!! Get well OS9 brother!! :)

Thanks - not to bad, but everyone who has "XY" chromosome set and is over 35 should prepare that in bad case there could be a quite dangerous pneumonia (that's for "XX", too). And in good case - a royal, crowned pain in the @ss (your prostate will say you a loud "hello"). If you do not know, what that word ("prostate") does mean, you will learn it. ;D

So get the relief medication just in case. Not a big deal, just pain in the @ss.

Otherwise this was the first day of the curfew.
Since I don't speak French, I learned it not even from our embassy, but from a worker at Belarus embassy in Paris.
Called them because of a trivial matter, the guy told me: "oh, behold - the military police just took over the streets".
I told him: "oops"....

Than later called U.S. embassy to learn, what to do. The most useless folks ever. I was switched to a county simplicity who is somewhere in West Virginia. I asked her, what to do with the curfew and that I am infected and stuck in France.
She told me: "go to the hospital". That was the point, where I had to hang up.

(Because the guy from BY told me things just the opposite, but that time the paperwork wasn't available on-line).
Than called an other embassy, the "second" one of us.

They provided me with the paperwork to fill and to keep when I have to take the trash out or buy groceries.
Otherwise told the same, what the Belarus guy told: don't invent any own idea (like running to hospital), as long as your only pain is "downstairs" and cough + dizziness: stay firmly at home, don't even call emergency (let the others call, who are over 70 and have fever). Don't go to the hospital: my car has very inviting U.S. plates, the police will immediately pull me over and in best case give 200 Euro fine, in worst case 3 years prison for curfew violation.

So if I would follow what that goose from Department of State did tell me: 200 Euro +/- 3 years in prison.
And fill out that simple paper!

The paper what we have to fill out is attached. Quite simple: your name, birthdate, where you stay in France, why are you out of your home. And the U.S. embassy was unable to provide me with that paper!

Other than these annoyances the life goes forward, just a bit slower.
We try to make jokes about our @ss and the dangerous COVID-bats from dark, horrible East Europe with Vampire State Building.

I was shocked to learn, in the States people buy ammo! What for?

People are very supportive of the curfew, the trick is not to stop the disease: it is impossible.
The trick is to gain time until vaccine is available and try to slow down the pandemic as much as possible.
I am not in any statistics, neither is the majority of people.
Because of that, the real mortality is far less, than the official rate: if officially, say, 40 people of 1000 would die due complications, the real infection number is closer to 10000 - we just are encouraged not to report it, mainly because the test is long + expensive and why would I make doctors busy for minor inconveniences I have, while others may need urgent help?


So, I think, it is better to prepare with some minor relief medication.
However, taking any medication against the fever is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN: it could make things much worse.
Otherwise see, what the Consul of Belarus embassy told, together with "our" second embassy lady and apply it.

The scare or panic does not help of course. Ah, yes, do not buy any canned food, totally useless. In 2020 one will run out of food, not even in rural NKorea. But taking a bit less risk and order fresh things on-line makes sense.
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2020, 10:09:05 PM »
i just ordered a dozen of sidewinder rockets from amazon to be well prepared for the zombie apocalypse.
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #135 on: March 18, 2020, 06:48:30 AM »
Glad your doing OK (S)ATAman !! Thanks for the update... once again very informative on a 'real world' level. It gives us a better idea of what is REALLY going on there and also where we are likely headed in the US.

Maybe OS9Lives should create a separate category for COVID related topics as I've seen a few other forums do. It seems better to get info from actual people that we trust instead of 'media outlets' that feed us with carefully crafted statements and such... not that I have anything against being manipulated!! Haha! ;D

Anyway... Thanks again for the helpful update and keep them coming!!  ;D

Get Well!!! 

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #136 on: March 18, 2020, 12:09:48 PM »
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was shocked to learn, in the States people buy ammo! What for?

simple... when Beto O'Rourke and Joe Biden go door to door, we'll have a little present for them...

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #137 on: March 19, 2020, 04:09:31 PM »
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was shocked to learn, in the States people buy ammo! What for?

simple... when Beto O'Rourke and Joe Biden go door to door, we'll have a little present for them...

ROFL - I already have quite efficient ammo against people of Biden's age, got it for free. 😷👑
But don't wish him anything bad, just may he retire happily and enjoy the life.

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #138 on: March 19, 2020, 04:41:18 PM »
Glad your doing OK (S)ATAman !! Thanks for the update... once again very informative on a 'real world' level. It gives us a better idea of what is REALLY going on there and also where we are likely headed in the US.

Maybe OS9Lives should create a separate category for COVID related topics as I've seen a few other forums do. It seems better to get info from actual people that we trust instead of 'media outlets' that feed us with carefully crafted statements and such... not that I have anything against being manipulated!! Haha! ;D

Anyway... Thanks again for the helpful update and keep them coming!!  ;D

Get Well!!!

Thanks - it's stagnating, with few hours daily when the body temperature wants to rise, rises slightly and than goes back.
But working is bit hard, do not have enough will power to press and more often than not just fall asleep.
This is what the Big Boss(es) in Embassy(es) and the doc told me to do, so I follow the leader(s).

The quality of the U.S. citizen service improved overnight, they are now extremely well-informed, professional and not letting people down.
Thumbs up for them.

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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #139 on: March 24, 2020, 11:25:29 PM »
simple... when Beto O'Rourke and Joe Biden go door to door, we'll have a little present for them...

it´s funny how trump accuses the chinese - the US is probably the country which lies the most about their own situation (that´s what think here in europe)
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2020, 05:23:50 PM »
simple... when Beto O'Rourke and Joe Biden go door to door, we'll have a little present for them...

it´s funny how trump accuses the chinese - the US is probably the country which lies the most about their own situation (that´s what think here in europe)

I think just that no one was prepared. The most funny accusation is of course that Chinese created the virus intentionally.
They can't make a decent PCI - to - PCIe bridge board!

Tried the one you can buy on eBay for ca. $24 and it absolutely does not work:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ST42-PXE8112-PCI-to-2-5Gbps-PCI-Express-1-0-PCI-X-Bridge-32Bit-Adapter-Card-SH/254426719650

On "X" I got "panic" under 10.2.8, 10.3, 10.4.11 and 10.5.8
On "9" I got MacsBug screen.

This was even without any PCIe card.

Than I got the Startech bridge board for $35 (or maybe it was 35 Euro?), a seller from Poland sent it to me. It is made in Taiwan.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-to-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card/123341684227

No panics, all registers to be seen and on 10.5.8 even Apple AHCI driver did load on G4 MDD.

- which one you would buy?
- can they make a decently "working" COVID-19?

The "opposite" bridge (using PCI card in Thunderbolt chassis) made in China

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-x1-to-PCI-Bridge-card-PEX8112-AA66-Chipset-pci-slot-converter-card/193394307550

is equally a piece of junk.

Did not try the Startech yet, they have that, too - but it's $10 more, as usual.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-to-PCI-Adapter-Card/123341684302


The price of Startech cards is inflated, the realistic one is the price of Chinese junk + 10 Euro / + $10.


I assume, it will work, just have way to much things to do and this COVID-19 makes me sleep most of the day.


The Chinese cards are like the problem my friend from Serbia had. (And don't forget - they know about the 3114 / 3112 sleep problems - just want to save money by not using Micrel!)

My friend ordered bunch of power supplies from China, it was fine.
Later he ordered more, they did cost 30¢ less.

He made external boxes, one self-detonated in Bucharest, the other box self-detonated in Sarajevo.

He had to drive from Belgrade to Bucharest and from Belgrade to Sarajevo to fix the problem and exchange the power supply.
He complained to Chinese that he ordered power supplies for external drives, not explosive devices.
They wrote back that they changed the design to save him 30¢.
He answered that the cost of gasoline from Belgrade to Bucharest and back and from Belgrade to Sarajevo and back is more, than 2 x 30¢.
Chinese did not understand that part. Wow.


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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #141 on: March 30, 2020, 04:36:13 AM »
PCI to PCIe is a lie. it´s cofefe. the democrats invented it.
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #142 on: April 01, 2020, 10:36:54 PM »
PCI to PCIe is a lie. it´s cofefe. the democrats invented it.

It kind of works here, but need more extensive tests.
For now everything is postponed, to make the 3112 and 3114 work without protection and in full modus operandi.
The next will be probably 3124 and than Marvell 6042. The 3124 has Open Firmware, but no "9". 6042 has neither, but it is a better chip than 3124.

Unfortunately need a "beige" G3 and some magic for Promise, their copy protection is THAT "good" (20269), it confuses a heck of me.
And I wrote the code for 20269.

I am not in hurry, will wait till borders are open, now I can't buy any beige (unless I want to pay for international shipping) because I can't reach my post box in Germany.
Luckily there is time and more, than enough things to do.

My employer from the US is OK to send me masks, here I can't buy any.

And as far as the COVID-19... the brother of my "ex", his wife and my older kid got it, not only me. We think, my youngest kid may had it, too.
We ate it for lunch - but still unsure, was it really tasty or not. More barbecue sauce would be better.
My wife is all the time next to our youngest kid, if he had - I think, it's impossible that she won't have it. Unlike the rest of us, she did not notice anything.

But don't do that at home on your own, please. Our gang is really bad-ass.  ;D
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Re: Disk Speed Upgrades (aka The Bootable PCI SATA & SSD thread)
« Reply #143 on: April 02, 2020, 04:55:46 AM »
stay well. yes i can imagine that your whole family is like you. even the smallest ones eat firmware for breakfast.
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