Author Topic: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)  (Read 16376 times)

supernova777

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These posts exist to provide guidance + information on SPECIFiC MODELS which provide SUPPORT FOR MAC OS 9 to those who wish to use an old powermac g4 for music purposes! If its not linked or pictured here, even if its very similiar!, theres a good chance that there are complications with compatibility, but these are the ones we RECCOMMEND for use with mac os 9 to those without experience! If you have experience or know of any other models that you can confirm compatibility with, from personal experience, feel free to post here + add to our information!! keep in mind any keyboard with midi can be connected via a midi interface to become a midi keyboard but these natively supported usb devices may provide extended functionality

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/midicontrol0302.asp
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/dec94/midicontrollers.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/jan95/midicontrollers2.html

midiman Keystation 49


midiman Keystation 61


kenton control freak

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov98/articles/kenton.htm

Kenton Spin Doctor (2003)

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep03/articles/kentonspin.htm
(previous non usb version: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec02/articles/controlfreaklive.asp)

gmedia phatboy (2000)

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct00/articles/gmeaid.htm

Akai Mpd 16

http://www.studio-central.com/review_of_the_akai_mpd16.htm
drivers:  http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpd16#downloads
driver history: http://6be54c364949b623a3c0-4409a68c214f3a9eeca8d0265e9266c0.r0.cf2.rackcdn.com/785/documents/mpd16_release_history.pdf

Roland ED PC-300
http://www.roland.com/products/en/PC-300/


edirol pc-50

http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/745/downloads

(the edirol PCR Mseries was a revise of the original PCR series from 2007 and miraculously they developed os9 drivers..
probably the last ever midi controllers to feature drivers for mac os 9 from a proper manufacturer and not custom driver hacks)
http://lib.roland.co.jp/products/en/brochures/res/62223119/4134_EDIROL_Interface_Cat2007-1_72.pdf

edirol PCR-1


edirol pcr-30

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr03/articles/edirolpcr50.asp

edirol pcr-50

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr03/articles/edirolpcr50.asp
http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/582/downloads

edirol pcr-80

http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/631/downloads

(the pcr-m series differs from the silver pcr series only in slight ways, it is a minor update providing a
 little bit more functionality in that u can more utilize the midi port routing in more versatile ways
 and the keyboard itself can act as a midi interface to an additional keyboard for more info see
 this article http://www.roland.com/support/article/index.cfm?q=faq&p=PCR-M50&id=1832098
on the silver ones the midi ports on teh back do not function if you are connected via usb
as with many usb midi devices u cant use the midi ports + the usb at the same time, but with th
black pcr-m series they added "interface" mode where the usb ports remain active + usable while
connected via usb allowing u to send midi out data from the keyboard over an oldschool midi cable
at the same time as the midi being sent to the computer over usb, aswell receiving midi in frm another
device via an oldschool midi cable)

edirol pcr-m1

http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/736/downloads

edirol pcr-m30

http://www.roland.com/products/en/PCR-M30/
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr03/articles/edirolpcr50.asp
http://www.roland.com/products/en/PCR-M30/images/image_02_L.jpg

edirol pcr-m50

http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/images/products/gallery/pcr_m50_gal.jpg
http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/706/downloads
http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/706/features/

edirol pcr-m80

http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/707/downloads

just a quick note: pretty sure all the evolution keyboards + controllers, the midi out port will not function if you connect/power the unit via usb..
these ports only work if you are powered by a seperate AC adapter, and have the keyboard/controller connected via the one MIDI out cable

evolution uc33-e
a notable great controller for use with ableton live in os9 as it features its controls mapped out similar to the session view with 1 fader + 3 rotaries per vertical "track" but of course you are free to assign whichever control to whichever element within ableton


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan04/articles/evolutionuc33.htm
manual: http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/uc33e_adv_user_sgl_pg_eng.pdf

evolution UC-16

http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/uc16_user_man.pdf

evolution x-session


evolution x-session uc-17


evolution  mk-425c

manual : http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/Evo_mk425-49-61c_Adv.pdf

evolution mk-449c

manual : http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/Evo_mk425-49-61c_Adv.pdf

evolution  mk-461c

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun04/articles/evolutionmk461c.htm
manual : http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/Evo_mk425-49-61c_Adv.pdf

evolution mk-361c

manual: http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/usb_keyb_user_man.pdf
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Features:
>61 full-size touch sensitive keys
>Slider and modulation wheel both act as fully assignable controllers
>Both controllers plus the keys can be assigned to different MIDI channels
>10 non-volatile memories - stored even when powered off
> Unique data entry buttons for fast, precise control
>USB compatible (USB cable plus PC and Mac drivers included)
> Provides USB to MIDI interface with standard MIDI OUT socket
> Sustain pedal socket plus 9V DC power socket for use with other MIDI products

The keyboard also features pitchbend wheel, modulation wheel (fully assignable), volume slider (fully assignable), transpose function, octave shift, program and bank change, 3 digit LED display, 10 non volatile program memory buttons (stored even when keyboard is unplugged), a sustain pedal socket and can also act as a USB to MIDI interface. Dimensions (cm): 97 x 21 x 8
 

evolution mk-361


evolution mk-249/mk-249c


evolution mk-225c


m-audio RADIUM61
8 sliders, 8 knobs, 5 octaves, data slider midi in/out sustan pedal

manual http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/Radium-series_Manual.pdf
This release version of the Radium driver requires Macintosh operating system
OS 9.2.2 or higher.

m-audio RADIUM49
8 sliders, 8 knobs, 4 octaves, data slider midi in/out sustan pedal

manual http://www.m-audio.ca/images/global/manuals/Radium-series_Manual.pdf
This release version of the Radium driver requires Macintosh operating system
OS 9.2.2 or higher.

m-audio OZONE
midi/audio interface, 2 octaves, 8 knobs, 2x2 24bit audio 96khz, XLRx1, 1/4" TSx1, headphone out


m-audio OXYGEN8

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun02/articles/midimanoxygen8.asp

m-audio KEYSTATION PRO 88


m-audio KEYSTATION 49E


m-audio EKEYS 49

http://zkcd.net/_gfx/matos/dyn/large/m-audio-ekeys-49.jpg
« Last Edit: January 19, 2015, 01:59:52 PM by chrisNova777 »

Offline arjen_1

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Re: os9 Compatible USB MIDI Keyboards & devices (without audio i/o)
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 12:37:35 PM »
Yamaha Motif (classic)....imho probably the best board to use with OS9 & Cubase.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr01/articles/yamaha.htm

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Re: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2015, 12:45:00 PM »
I do confirm I was able to use an Edirol PCR-300 to control Koblo, CellSynth, etc, in my Powerbool Pismo running OS9 today.
I used the PCR driver package from Roland, but I had to have BOTH OMS and FreeMidi active in order to make it work. OMS alone would crash all the time, and FreeMidi would not control applications that require OMS. FreeMidi prefs must be configured with "use OMS when available" and "always load at startup".
Programs must use PCR-1 as input in order to receive MIDI notes.

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Hello, I own an old  Mac G4 800Mhz bought in 2002.It runs both OSX and OS 9.
While booting from OS9 I want to use the USB feature of my  keystation 49 S/N 2026628, with  my DAW .But OMS is telling me that the driver  Keystation (1*1) i.e one by one OMS driver could
not be loaded.
This has caused me to use a Midi to USB interface which went dead.
Is there some help out there.
Thanks

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rowan17:

are u sure that you are using an original keystation 49?
because if u are using a mk2 its possible that the oms driver simply does not work because
companies stopped supporting oms + macos9 around 2004
im not exactly sure when the mkII revision model came out (Which was branded M-audio instead of 'midiman') but i think its probably in 2005 or later and they probably gave zero concern about macos9
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While booting from OS9 I want to use the USB feature of my  keystation 49 S/N 2026628, with  my DAW .But OMS is telling me that the driver  Keystation (1*1) i.e one by one OMS driver could
not be loaded.
Did you install the Keystation 49 USB drivers
 and the Keystation 49 drivers for OMS?
« Last Edit: May 09, 2018, 04:49:24 PM by MacTron »
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Re: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2018, 06:20:55 AM »
Anyone know if there is any way to get an Akai MPK Mini (1st gen) working in OS9 ?

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Re: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2018, 05:50:13 AM »
Thanks for this brilliant article. Its directed me to what i can use.

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Re: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 11:07:39 AM »
Hi All could anyone on here point me in the right direction for Evolution mk drivers cant seem to find anything for os9 just osx.

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Re: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2018, 06:34:57 PM »
Hi All could anyone on here point me in the right direction for Evolution mk drivers cant seem to find anything for os9 just osx.

see this post:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,4438.0.html
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Re: MIDI Keyboards & controllers connecting via USB (without audio i/o)
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 04:58:10 AM »
Hi I have the M-audio and Midiman driver CDs already, I bought a 2496 and delta 66 and a midisport 2x4 which has it own driver cd many millennia ago..well seems like it...These are not Evolution MK specific.. but thanks anyway