The 2040 issue.

[OS923]

Solved.

[MacTron]

Solved.

Great!
Can you please share the extension that fix this issue , attaching it to a post?

[DieHard]

If will be available on a board here soon, for now, here is the link:

Pass: macos9lives
https://files.secureserver.net/0fUL0ehuuGJGbe

[part12studios]

if the computer is offline we could just set the date to whatever right?  i mean i'll be amazed if any of these machine are still working in 20 years..  though not impossible..  if capacitors are changed and such its possible.  the oldest piece of music gear I have is my Akai S612 from 1984 and it's still in great shape and as far as i know it hasn't been serviced yet..  probably something i'll look into in this decade with various gear..   i had the caps changed on my Zoom 9030 (known issue they used bad caps) and my Amiga 1200 also got new caps 1991 era computer.. it was having power up issues.. but once caps were changed it powered up perfectly each time.  I sold that one but the one I still have got the same treatment but it hadn't shown signs of trouble yet. 

[IIO]

one of the main problems with a wrong fake date is copy protection schemes. another is that you eventually at least want to have the time right, which is only possible via internet, which would also attempt to the date.

for now just trust OS923 that it is almost solved.

[Protools5LEGuy]

Let´s see what linux folks had made to solve 2038 year bug on 32 bits systems

https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/1/29/355?anz=web

[Protools5LEGuy]

https://www.softzone.es/noticias/open-source/linux-56-efecto-2038/

[Protools5LEGuy]

http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_View/Entries/2020/4/5_Macintosh_Y2020.html

2020 issue on Mac OS 0.97 to Mac OS 8 solved

System version 9.x.

   System 9.0 was released in October, 1999, almost 9 months after the SuperBowl advertisement in which Apple bragged about being immune to things like the Y2k bug. Maybe at some time in the interim, somebody at Apple recognized the dishonesty in that commercial. Maybe not. For whatever reason, in System 9, the flags passed to ToggleDate by the ClockCDEF were altered in just the way we altered them above. System 9 is already patched. You can set the date however you like, within the limits of the Macintosh system clock. We are good to go till 2040.

[IIO]

a guy in the fb group did the 2020 of 8.5 / 8.6 .

you´d basically patch the system file to match the OS9 version of it at a specific point.

System // data fork
change 3C608800 3863007E to 3C608000 3863007E

(scroll down)

http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_View/Entries/2020/4/5_Macintosh_Y2020.html?fbclid=IwAR2WqSTAJi4b1R39fhC2uJMNlI65eEfoyk7Yc6wnTMNCrCoTQSoO2soP89I

[teroyk]

Date and Time API Preliminary Documentation For Mac OS 9:
http://mirror.macintosharchive.org/gsehi.com/computing/software/macos/Media/PDF/TradMacDoc/ApplePublishingSistem/Programming/1999/Draft/Date_and_time.pdf

so Apple solved problem this way in 1999.

[bfcastello]

Hi ppl

How to fix it for OS 9? Is there even a fix for that?

[bfcastello]

Hi ppl

How to fix it for OS 9? Is there even a fix for that?

Hello? I know we're good to go on OS 9 till 2040, but can't we extend it a bit more on OS 9.2.2? even Windows 3.11 can go to something like 2090

[smilesdavis]

https://web.archive.org/web/20220311161607/http://mirror.macintosharchive.org/gsehi.com/computing/software/macos/Media/PDF/TradMacDoc/ApplePublishingSistem/Programming/1999/Draft/Date_and_time.pdf

love my 3.11 rig. dreaming of finding a Asus P5A. but im loving my P55T2P4.

[bfcastello]

a guy in the fb group did the 2020 of 8.5 / 8.6 .

you´d basically patch the system file to match the OS9 version of it at a specific point.

System // data fork
change 3C608800 3863007E to 3C608000 3863007E

(scroll down)

http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_View/Entries/2020/4/5_Macintosh_Y2020.html?fbclid=IwAR2WqSTAJi4b1R39fhC2uJMNlI65eEfoyk7Yc6wnTMNCrCoTQSoO2soP89I

Now we just need the same kind of sorcery to make OS 9 go beyond 2040

[smilesdavis]

by then its all emulation

[Roman323]

a guy in the fb group did the 2020 of 8.5 / 8.6 .

you´d basically patch the system file to match the OS9 version of it at a specific point.

System // data fork
change 3C608800 3863007E to 3C608000 3863007E

(scroll down)

http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_View/Entries/2020/4/5_Macintosh_Y2020.html?fbclid=IwAR2WqSTAJi4b1R39fhC2uJMNlI65eEfoyk7Yc6wnTMNCrCoTQSoO2soP89I

Now we just need the same kind of sorcery to make OS 9 go beyond 2040

Who knows if we will be around in 2040 ? I know I will be 30 years older and probably not around anymore to even see if Mac OS 9 will still be around. I suppose if someone can get the Classic MAC OS source code, its possible to change the date.

[IIO]

Who knows if we will be around in 2040 ? I know I will be 30 years older

some would say it is 17 years.

the last 17 years went by quite fast, and i am afraid the next 17 will, too.

in 17 years we can break up all hacking groups and ask chatGTP´s grandchildren how to fix the 2040 date issue without the need of a forth decompiler, and we will hopefully also have 3D printers who can repair broken PSUs on the fly.

[DieHard]

in 17 years we can break up all hacking groups and ask chatGTP´s grandchildren how to fix the 2040 date issue without the need of a forth decompiler

Yep... this is not far from the truth.  There are many programmers saving countless hours getting chatGTP to spitout code, and I think that is great... but when you ask it to write a rock song about "hot" women it gives you the lecture not to objectify women, so in 2040, there will be no sexy models, no anger, no inequality, no passion, and no need to write about anything.   What a fucking disaster... that they create an awesome AI as a tool, only to fuck it up with social justice.  It's just a matter of time that they prosecute people based on asking inappropriate questions.

[IIO]

there will be two internets, one which only allows porn, racist comments and patriotic country music and one which forbids it. then you can choose between plague and cholera.

but did you know that 3 days ago (19.01.2023) was the day when marty mcfly and doc brown landed in the future in "back into the future?" it was a lie: there are no floating penny boards!

[AssortedSordid]

in 17 years we can break up all hacking groups and ask chatGTP´s grandchildren how to fix the 2040 date issue without the need of a forth decompiler

Yep... this is not far from the truth.  There are many programmers saving countless hours getting chatGTP to spitout code, and I think that is great... but when you ask it to write a rock song about "hot" women it gives you the lecture not to objectify women, so in 2040, there will be no sexy models, no anger, no inequality, no passion, and no need to write about anything.   What a fucking disaster... that they create an awesome AI as a tool, only to fuck it up with social justice.  It's just a matter of time that they prosecute people based on asking inappropriate questions.

That’s why I like these old machines so much; not only the nostalgia but there’s no modern bullshit, only good times. Well, when your machine wants to play along, that is