what tools to find for my mac for vinyl copy?

[jvdbossc]

For now using the mac for photoshop and appleworks and indesign.  Quite happy, but might give it another use so here is my question.

I already digitized lots of vinyl records to cd, but pc wich did that is long gone.

Can the mac os 9 do that as well, record (at high hz like 96000), remove cracks (vinyl dammage, noise), convert to lower rate, burn cdrom with tracks?

It does not need be a DAW, only medium conversion, since I prefer cd's for daily music, vinyl is more special occassions media for me.  (but I by whenever available vinyl)

[mrhappy]

Haven’t done much of this sort of thing and when I do I usually just use my DAW,  however the program that came to mind was Bias Peak… Haven’t used it but I think that might do what you’re looking for.

http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/bias-peak-25

Also SonicWORX… http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/sonicworx-studio-26

SonicWORX Power bundle… http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/sonicworx-powerbundle-26

and Spark may work too… http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/spark-xl-16

others of interest may include...

SoundEdithttp://macintoshgarden.org/apps/soundedit-16

Alchemy… http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/alchemy-30

or even Coaster… http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/coaster-113

[IIO]

you can choose of hundreds of programs to record audio on OS9, but i would not recommend to use 96 kHz unless you use a PCI-based RME or a mykerinos interface. cheap and midclass converters sound much better at 44 or 48.

[supernova777]

you can choose of hundreds of programs to record audio on OS9

very true.. there are thousands of apps that let u record audio
but i think u would be better off with a wave recording app that lets u process the audio  but which one is the undisputed ruler of them all?

steinberg wavelab was only for the pc right?
sound edit..
Digitrax...
bias peak...
tcworks spark...

im sure mactron would just use cubase on its own
knezzen would prob use protools TDM on its own
syntho would probably use logic on its own..
i might use ableton live on its own..
diehard would use logic pro X lol
use whatever works

use whatever works for you! and whatever can host the plugins that u want to use to clean up + optimize your recording

[DieHard]

Can the mac os 9 do that as well, record (at high hz like 96000), remove cracks (vinyl damage, noise), convert to lower rate, burn cdrom with tracks?

Spark and/or PowerBundle are the best choice since you do not need a full DAW to learn; these are Stereo file editors/recorders that can also take VST plugins (like crakle removal, mastering, etc.)

[GaryN]

I've got one more that for recording and touching up vinyl is absolutely the best one I've ever found: Amadeus II

The app is Carbonized and will run on either OS9 or OSX thru 10.4. Bit rate is dependent only on your hardware (so you can 24/96 yourself into pure bliss and downconvert afterward although you should know that you're really not improving anything significant that way) and it has a dedicated "repair centre" specifically for cleaning up vinyl. This app does exactly what you want with a straightforward, simple interface and does it very well.

This was shareware at the time. It is now "Amadeus Pro", is priced at 60 bucks and the OS9 version (up to 3.8.6) is no longer on the site… BUT

Martin Hairer (the developer) is one of the nicest, most reasonable guys I've ever met and will probably send you a copy for little or even no $$ if you tell him you're a OS9 luddite and his app was recommended to you by a long-time user.

It's shareware with a 30-day timeout and well worth paying for (maybe 20 bucks ? if not free).

I'll look and see if I still have the unregistered download from long ago. If I do, I'll upload it and you can just try it then do the registration when it expires. Like I said, it's exactly what you want and too cheap to not pay for!

[supernova777]

nice addition gary
http://www.hairersoft.com/
http://www.hairersoft.com/lite.html
http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html

looks like hes giving out a patched copy of v1.0?
http://www.hairersoft.com/Downloads/AmadeusProOld.zip

[Protools5LEGuy]

Folks. The first thing needed is a PREAMPLIFIER. The line level output of a pickup is extremely low when compared to a cassette deck or a radio-tuner. And the sound is horrible thin, as the sound of the needle on the surface of the vinyl. That is why in a HI-FI element by element setup phonoRCA inputs are not the same as CD or TAPE.  It needs the RIAA filterin/EQ to reinforce the lows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization worth reading.




I have no idea if there is that eq onboard on all DAWs.

If you have a PREamplifier, probably it should have a REC out or TAPE out, ready for use with any mac with 3.5 mm input with the right cable.

[supernova777]

 i think had brought this up over a year ago asking u guys if u knew if there was a VST version that supported the RIAA amplification curve..  it was so long ago i cant remember if i ever got a response.. maybe try the search engine searching for RIAA + macos9lives

http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=1244.0
ok heres the thread.. no i was asking about interfaces... that had built in preamplifier for vinyl/turntables..
i had meant to start another thread and ask if this was possible to be done with software?

[GaryN]

nice addition gary
http://www.hairersoft.com/
http://www.hairersoft.com/lite.html
http://www.hairersoft.com/pro.html

looks like hes giving out a patched copy of v1.0?
http://www.hairersoft.com/Downloads/AmadeusProOld.zip

Yeah, like I said - nice guy! Amadeus Pro is an OSX app, however. Only Amadeus II is OS9-able
I'm still looking for a copy.

Now however:

Folks. The first thing needed is a PREAMPLIFIER. The line level output of a pickup is extremely low when compared to a cassette deck or a radio-tuner. And the sound is horrible thin, as the sound of the needle on the surface of the vinyl. That is why in a HI-FI element by element setup phonoRCA inputs are not the same as CD or TAPE.  It needs the RIAA filterin/EQ to reinforce the lows

Hopefully, anybody old enough to know what a turntable is should also know that you gotta have a phono preamp.
AND, it's gotta be an analog phono preamp that A: Has a proper input impedance, capacitive load and sensitivity to properly kiss up to a phono cartridge. Such preamps have a proper RIAA EQ curve built in virtually 100% of the time and output to two (L+R) line-level (typically -10dbV) RCA phono jacks.

The RIAA curve is almost always developed at the first preamp in the analog domain for a few different reasons that are way too deep for me to spend the time typing about here but the main reason is that it's actually really a simple circuit that only requires a few parts and they're cheap.

There are at least one or two speciaized apps used by restoration guys in order to apply different EQ curves on older records and such.

Trust me, any phono preamp worth having - and you've got to have one - will have the playback curve built in - period.

[IIO]

I have no idea if there is that eq onboard on all DAWs.

it really only makes sense to do this analog