Powermac G4 MDD Mac OS 9 and OS X Leopard dualboot tutorial

[draftwork]

No, the OS9 option doesn't appear on the other one.

I will try to change the settings tomorrow.

Thank you very much for your help guys, it's nice to know that i can count on people like you. I hope that we will succeed in resolving this problem !

[draftwork]

So, I changed the settings of the HDDs to "Cable Select", still nothing to do. Do i need to buy a new HDD?

[Protools5LEGuy]

Maybe I am late...

[draftwork]

This is weird. Why you have the OS 9 driver box and not me?...

[Protools5LEGuy]

Try to change its partition type  to APM when choosing another  than current schemme

[Protools5LEGuy]

Changing it should allow to choose APM. Or try to format to mbr in an Intel machine and the format back to APM. Maybe the drive is faulty for APM

[draftwork]

Yeah, i will buy a new one because i can't see "Options" to choose APM.
Do you have any suggestions for the right choice of HDD?

[nanopico]

I recall seeing here somewhere and experienced this myself.
Disk Utility in Tiger and Leopard check the compatibility value in open firmware.
This was the original change to make OS 9 run on the FW800.
If a value is not set there, then Disk Utility knows that the machine can't boot into OS 9 so it doesn't provide the option.
 
A temporary change in Open Firmware tricks Disk Utility Into allowing OS 9 drivers to install.

Code: [Select]

dev /
.properties
" PowerBook4,3" encode-string " MacRISC" encode-string encode+ " MacRiSC2" encode-string encode+ " MacRISC3" encode-string encode+ " Power Macintosh" encode-string encode+ " compatible" property
mac-boot

This would be the command relative to making this work.

(referenced from iMic https://thinkclassic.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3207#p3207)

[IIO]

nano but how can this happen? his dual 1.0 should be OS9 booting by any means.

[Protools5LEGuy]

iMic did a Mac OS X software to fool that IIRC

Update: http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php/topic,2141.0.html

IdentityTool Pre-Release

[nanopico]

nano but how can this happen? his dual 1.0 should be OS9 booting by any means.

Disregard my post. I read over the post including the machine too fast and missed the model details. Just saw MDD and assumed FW800. Didn't see the DP 1 GHZ.

[draftwork]

Ok guys, it works !!

I used Identity Tool to boot as a PowerMac G4 Digital Audio with MacRISC, MacRISK3 and MacRISC3.
After starting the Mac, I went to disk utilities and the option "Mac OS 9 Drivers" was here.

To install mac os 9, I used the method of "Bollepoes" in the top of the topic.

Thank you all of you guys for your help !

[GaryN]

Great to hear it's working!

So, what the hell was all this about? Damaged firmware? Previously "hacked" firmware? About all we can say for sure at this point is that this should not have happened. We've fixed the problem without identifying the cause.

Where did you get this MDD? Anything odd in its past you know of? I'm curious.

[draftwork]

Honestly I do not know too much where the problem came from, apart from that I did not have the box "OS9 drivers" that appeared.
I bought it to a private person.
Maybe I do too much installation and erasing drives, before trying to install the os 9, who knows..?

[draftwork]

I change topic, does anyone know how to install scsi manager 4.3?
I need it to recognize my Microtech Usb-Scsi db25 in Recycle.

If a topic already exists, please redirect me to it.

[nanopico]

I posted something here that I didn't mean to.  Ignore me.

[FdB]

Okay everybody, stop me before I "kill again".

Just downloaded Mac OS X 10.5.4 Leopard from MacGarden and successfully burned an install DVD. I've also got an original OS 9 install disc and I'm wondering if this is the route to go... and then install the 9.2.2 update. Or, per GaryN's comments of January 19th 2007, should I proceed with the 9.2.2 Universal image available here?

Should I also have sought an original Mac OS X Leopard disc install set as opposed to the MacGarden variety?

It's an MDD DP FW400 with two (smallish) internal drives currently running OS 10.5.8 and OS 9.2 but I want to clear drives and begin fresh-ish... moving only what I wish back from a Time Machine back-up that I've yet to perform.

Originally, I intended to go only with a standalone 9.2.2 install but evidently, schizophrenia appeals to me in some sick and demented way.

I'll be wrasslin' with Time Machine (which I've never used), attempting to utilize a large external USB drive as target back-up residence. So, total DESTRUCTION is not imminent at this time. And yes, I'll pull the faster USB/Firewire PCI card from the machine before the attempted software re-install... and then, re-install the USB/Firewire card after successful software installation, to move select files and apps back to the machine.

...'til Daddy takes the T-bird away.

 

[GaryN]

This subject is like the damn shingles… it goes away and comes back over and over and over.
Since you make a point of declaring your schizophrenia, I won't attempt to tell you what to do, but shall only make a few pertinent points..
• The 10.5.4 Mac Garden image is fine. Just do the rest of the updates to 10.5.8 after installation before you start with OS9.
• I have no idea what you mean re: pulling the USB/FW PCI and replacing it or why you would need to.
• As I've said many times before, Time Machine will trash your OS9 directory. Do NOT use it to back up your OS9 install. Lock your OS9 drive, partition, whatever out in TM prefs. Use CarbonCopyCloner or some such utility for OS9.
• Spotlight can and sometimes does also trash the OS9 directory. Lock it out too.

• I love T-Birds. I owned three of them.

[FdB]

Thanks G. My apologies for the re-hash/rash of this subject. I mentioned only that schizophrenia evidently appeals to me. (I personally remain untested.) Your comments are appreciated und Time Machine always has seemed suspect to me. The PCI card will be removed and then reinstalled only as a precaution/superstition. OS 9.2.2 shall come from here after the 10.5.8 update is installed.

Again thank you… I shall proceed. (Probably only to eventually find that I didn’t need Leopard in the long run anyway.)

Of course, I preferred the original T-birds.
Much like OS 9.