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Mat:
Yesterday I discovered Deneba Canvas 8 for the first time. The last years I thought it is some 3d program, ... but as you might know it is more an Office/Presentation/Layout/Imaging program.

From the first look it seems to be a quite professional program. I was very excited about the PDF-Import for example, as we have so few good PDF-Readers for Mac OS 9. but after some tries even the simplest PDF 1.3 have problems.

So what is your experiance? Is it a very professional program? Is it worth to try learning how to use it? Or should I stay with RagTime and AppleWorks?
What do you use it for?

MacTron:
Deneba Canvas 3.5.6 is my Illustration App from the last two decades. From this version onwards, they only made an awfully bad Windows port.
If you really need a "top PRO app" Go for Adobe Illustrator 9 and forget about this one (and the Macromedia shit).

Mat:

--- Quote from: MacTron on July 12, 2015, 10:22:47 AM ---Deneba Canvas 3.5.6 is my Illustration App from the last two decades. From this version onwards, they only made an awfully bad Windows port.
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Interresting. So you use it for your vector graphic stuff, ... I was searching for other "Office" applications.


--- Quote from: MacTron on July 12, 2015, 10:22:47 AM ---If you really need a "top PRO app" Go for Adobe Illustrator 9 and forget about this one (and the Macromedia shit).

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No I donīt need a "top PRO app" for graphic stuff. I want to get rid of MS Office for Mac 2001 as it is quite useless these days with XML stuff and changed RTF. So I searched other Office suites, and I like StarOffice a lot, it is damn fast and quite professional, but it is from 1996. So I thought "have a look what else is in existance".

And interresting about Illustrator 9. Is there a reason that you do not recommend Version 10?
And about "Macromedia Shit", ... ;) I am one of those who still love Freehand, as well as I still do my stuff with rock solid Quark XPress 4. I just do not like the Adobe products. :-)

MacTron:

--- Quote from: Mat on July 12, 2015, 10:52:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: MacTron on July 12, 2015, 10:22:47 AM ---Deneba Canvas 3.5.6 is my Illustration App from the last two decades. From this version onwards, they only made an awfully bad Windows port.
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Interresting. So you use it for your vector graphic stuff, ... I was searching for other "Office" applications.

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Canvas 3.5.6 can handle vector graphics, bitmaps, Quickdraw and Postcript at the same time, And It have a very good typographic capabilities. It's always my first choice. If I need more PRO capabilities, then I go for Photoshop 5.5, Illustrator 9, Pagemaker 7 or even VectorWorks 9.5.



--- Quote from: MacTron on July 12, 2015, 10:22:47 AM ---If you really need a "top PRO app" Go for Adobe Illustrator 9 and forget about this one (and the Macromedia shit).

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And interresting about Illustrator 9. Is there a reason that you do not recommend Version 10?

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Because Illustrator 10 its a carbon app if my memory serves ...


--- Quote ---And about "Macromedia Shit", ... ;) I am one of those who still love Freehand,

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I was a happy Freehand user too, until Macromedia bought it and became a slow, buggy and "Windows like" program.


--- Quote ---as well as I still do my stuff with rock solid Quark XPress 4. I just do not like the Adobe products. :-)

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I have made a lot of stuff with Quark XPress, I think it is the best.


--- Quote ---I just do not like the Adobe products. :-)

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Why?
, just curious ...

Mat:
Well, good that we agree about XPress 4 ;) Yes, Illustrator 10 is a Carbon application, but whatīs wrong with CarbonLib?

About Freehand, ... well the Aldus days :-)

About Adobe, I do not like the thousands of palettes. And I always got the feeling they overact with integration. It is slow, blown up, and senseless often. I always feel like they do not improve what users demand, but what looks fancy and what they belive will push sellings. So no wise and good programmed product (like XPress 4). To me it seems obsolecenc was always (beginning with Photoshop 5) built into their products. But wait - there are no products anymore, you can just "borrow" the functionality if you pay monthly, … ;)

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