HAY HAY HAY!

[LoFizle]

Hope this is the right spot to say hello? If not feel free to move this to the appropriate location.

Anyways hello.

Ive been lurking for a couple weeks now. This place has alot of goodies, and a TON of great info. So thank you guys for putting this together.

Anywho hears my set up.
Duel 1 gig G4, I just got it off craigslist for 80 bucks. Its the MDD I think, I read that the single 1.25 was the board I wanted though. So I may get another board.

Ok so I have a Digi 96io, I had got this for my Native System but decided I didnt need it. I also have a 882, that I bought years ago thinking I was going to build a mix system. But when I bought the parts, the one guy I got the mac from, didnt think it needed to be bubble wraped for shipping , and the genius that sold me the Mix Core card, well he figured they were all the same,  the Farm cards and Core cards that is. So needless to say that build never happened. But the 882 was pristine! Brand NEW! $100

Anyways, I had planed on doing a OS9 system for a while just never did. But about a year ago I came across this old cdrom I made EONS AGO, that had alot of TDM / Rtas PLUGS on it that I download off EDonkey. So after I found that, I kinda got curious. An then I found this SITE! Which WAS LIKE FUCK YEA! OK! Then I found the G4 for 80 bucks. Well $80 dollars its kinda like go for it.

So i grabed a HD card of the bay aswell. $150.

Just hit the mac garden and downloaded all sorts of goodies.

I tried to do a duel boot and install some stuff, but no luck. I think this maybe tricky. So i may have some questions.

But first I gotta get that os9 you guys posted, and see how that works.

But the only internet I have is my tablets hot spot, so I have to go lurk in McDonalds and high jack there McWifi!

AnyHoot! Glad to be hear, and Im excited to get this thing working. 
Thanks 4 having ME!

[supernova777]

grab me some fries 

[LoFizle]

grab me some fries 

HAY MAN! Thanks for the reply bro! Been skimming through all of your posts! Killer ISH BRAH!

Yea, the fries are ok, but if Im gonna eat that crap, I gotta go with a Sausage egg Mc Muffin, and hash brown. Plus I figure if I got LATE NIGHT, I can eat up all the bandwidth to myself. BUHAHA hehe!

[supernova777]

i got some bad news for you tho... i dont know jack about using PT HD systems..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may02/articles/protoolshd.asp
it looks like it must work :



i think u would need a version of Pro Tool TDM 5.3.1 which i dont think we even have here at this site (yet? do we?)
or maybe it can run on TDM 5.13??? does anyone have experience with pt HD systems?
** i just read that support for 96io is added in tdm 5.3.1 which means its definately not supported in 5.1.3

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgwYlgDUXU[/youtube]

[supernova777]

perhaps one of our users could contribute a copy of pro tools tdm 5.3.1 to complete our pro tools 5 / mac os 9 library here...
after i just scored 5.3.2 LE today ... anyone? 



http://archive.digidesign.com/download/531/
http://archive.digidesign.com/download/cs/531r2/
http://archive.digidesign.com/download/cs/531cs7/

i think i read something about a legacy port on the 96 io
that lets u integrate it with 888 + adat bridge units
im not sure if that means u could use it with a tdm 5.1.3 system some how
or if this means u can use 888 + adat bridge to expand an HD system (96 io + HD Core card)

here the 5.3 reference guide
http://akarchive.digidesign.com/support/docs/PT_5.3_Reference_Guide.pdf

more getting started guides etc:
http://secure.digidesign.com/services/avid/kb/downloads.cfm?digiArticleId=22952&localeCode=en
http://akmedia.digidesign.com/support/docs/Getting_Started_HD_53-61_29771.pdf


http://akmedia.digidesign.com/support/docs/192_IO_Guide_25670.pdf


http://akmedia.digidesign.com/support/docs/96_IO_Guide_v80_56065.pdf

so apparently u can use the 882 with the 96 i/o..
connect the 96 io to the core card and then connect the 882 to the 96 io's legacy port
u would need to word clock connect the in + out from the 96 io to the 882 aswell i think.

that will give u 16 channels in + out, then u can also add an ADAT device to the 96 io i think
which would mean u would have to also wordclock to the adat expansion unit 
or connecting either via SPDIF may be ok to forgo the wordclock connection

[Protools5LEGuy]

If you can't find it otherwise, I have an Image of a PT HD install in Spanish.

We can share the image with Mega if you have an account.

[LoFizle]

Yea 5.3.1 could be a problem.
But it may still be possible to purchace it through Avid. I was talking to a guy off ebay, and he said he got 6 for like 25 bucks from them. So maybe. IF I can I will most def post it.

if not,

The solution is simple! check out it guys!

Ill just run, Dp3 in DAE mode. The DAE is a Free download. DP3 in DAE mode, can use the TDM and RTAS plug-ins, as well as the hardware. at least from everything I have read. I just have never done it. I've drooled over the idea for years.

Plus, IMVHO, DP is a way better DAW, AND DEFIANTLY A BETTER SEQUENCER than PT!

SO PT may not even be needed!

PT GUY, thanks but I dont speak Spanish! 

BUT yea CNova, the legacy should work. I will say this, it doesnt work with the omni. lol That was the hole reason I bought the 96io, I was thinking I could legacy pot the 96 to the omni, which works, and then the 882 to the 96io, which didn't. So it was totally pointless, other than now I have it to build this os9 system.

Speaking of stuff that isnt posted, anyone come acrosss the DUY Synth Spider! I haven't came across it in my internet travels.

With that Said, I may HAVE SERATO SCRATCH! Which as soon as I get this thing up and running I will test it and see if it works. If it does Ill post! I haven't seen any one say anything about it.

I haven't downloaded that big os9 disk pack off mac garden yet either so both of those maybe on that. IDK Just thought Id toss it out there.

[supernova777]

i dont think Digital performer would have added support for the HD hardware untill the osx version of DP (v4)
but maybe u are right? i will be shocked + surprised to find out you are right tho!!! i think dp3's dae support will only work for 24mixplus type systems, unles it was added in the final update of v3.11

heres the press release about HD Accell + DP 4.1
http://www.motu.com/other/press/308/accel.pdf

u may need to run osx to pull that off..
better start brushing up on your spanish hahahaha

http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/os9/hd/
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/pronotes0302.asp

[LoFizle]

SNAP I didnt think of that! 

[Protools5LEGuy]

u may need to run osx to pull that off..
better start brushing up on your spanish hahahaha

Bienvenido a Mac OS 9

[LoFizle]

Might have to go with a core.

on the Mac garden, the guy that posted 5.2 said the drivers worked with HD, but it didnt work with PT. Hmmm

So it might work.

But probably not.

We shall see though!

My sis speaks spanish, I could always just text her and have her translate. Id bet She'd love that! LOL

[Knezzen]

You need at least Pro Tools HD 5.3 to use your HD card. Pro Tools TDM 5.1.3 will only work if you have a MIX or 24 system. The 882 plugs into the legacy port of the 96 I/O and can be used with Pro Tools HD 5.3 and over on a HD system.

I have requested Pro Tools HD 5.3 a few times already, but to no avail. Someone might have it somewhere though. Otherwise I'll start sniping on eBay for a copy

[Knezzen]

Might have to go with a core.
on the Mac garden, the guy that posted 5.2 said the drivers worked with HD, but it didnt work with PT. Hmmm

Pro Tools TDM 5.2 is just 5.1.3 with added support for DigiStudio. Nothing has been done to add drivers etc.

From the Digidesign archive:

Should users of Pro Tools 5.1 or 5.1.x update to Pro Tools 5.2 even if they’re not going to use the DigiStudio Internet collaboration service? No. There is no need to update to Pro Tools 5.2 if you will not be using the DigiStudio collaboration features, as there are no additional differences in functionality.

[LoFizle]

You need at least Pro Tools HD 5.3 to use your HD card. Pro Tools TDM 5.1.3 will only work if you have a MIX or 24 system. The 882 plugs into the legacy port of the 96 I/O and can be used with Pro Tools HD 5.3 and over on a HD system.

I have requested Pro Tools HD 5.3 a few times already, but to no avail. Someone might have it somewhere though. Otherwise I'll start sniping on eBay for a copy

Ive been eye balling ebay for a couple weeks with no such luck.
But if we are both looking, maybe we should exchange ebay handles so we dont get into a bidding war on it. lol That would really SUCK!

[supernova777]

you need the 5.3 install disc... to use it with mac os 9 or you would need 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, or 6.9 for mac os x
those are the only versions that support HD

www.proaudiosupport.com/a26124/details-new-features-pro.html
http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/

or u could sell the 96 io + get a d24 or mix core card and use that with just your 822 interface, then you would be set because we have the software that supports those systems.

if u really want to run dp3 then why not get a motu system? pci-324 or pci-424 + motu interface (1224, 2408, 1296)

[mrhappy]

I've never used 5.3 but it's interesting that it enables some 'cross pollination' of Mix/HD eras... I'd be curious to see which plugs from the 'Mix' era would work using HD hardware/cards?... maybe running HD at lower sampling rates??

[LoFizle]

you need the 5.3 install disc... to use it with mac os 9 or you would need 6.2, 6.4, 6.6, or 6.9 for mac os x
those are the only versions that support HD

www.proaudiosupport.com/a26124/details-new-features-pro.html
http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/

or u could sell the 96 io + get a d24 or mix core card and use that with just your 822 interface, then you would be set because we have the software that supports those systems.

if u really want to run dp3 then why not get a motu system? pci-324 or pci-424 + motu interface (1224, 2408, 1296)

I might go the 324 / 1224, I have a friend that I gave my old system two years ago, and he wants a prottools system and a new computer. So I may trade him my 003 and a G5 I have. So I do have access to that system. So its funny you mention that.

But I really want to rock these TDM PLUGS!

I may have to sell the hd, and go with the mix system. But that shouldnt be to hard.

[LoFizle]

If you can't find it otherwise, I have an Image of a PT HD install in Spanish.

We can share the image with Mega if you have an account.

On second thought, let's do that to see if this works. which plugs work, ect ect.

Also, this is just a thought, but couldnt Spanish versions serial, possibly be used to download the english version?

So whats mega? So no I dont have a account, but I could make one.

[Knezzen]

I'll trade you the HD card for some working MIX cards and stuff. PM me if you're interested

[LoFizle]

i dont think Digital performer would have added support for the HD hardware untill the osx version of DP (v4)
but maybe u are right? i will be shocked + surprised to find out you are right tho!!! i think dp3's dae support will only work for 24mixplus type systems, unles it was added in the final update of v3.11

heres the press release about HD Accell + DP 4.1
http://www.motu.com/other/press/308/accel.pdf

u may need to run osx to pull that off..
better start brushing up on your spanish hahahaha

http://archive.digidesign.com/compato/os9/hd/
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar02/articles/pronotes0302.asp

Just talked to Motu tech support, Dude said his notes didn't go back that far, BUT he believes it will work with the hd card. Now all I have to do is figure out out to install the Dp file.

I downloaded Dp, from Mac Gargen, and The original install, isn't the iso image. Did the old Dp3, need to be installed from disk like the newer versions, or could it be installed just from the exe?