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Youtube with Mac OS 9
« on: April 14, 2015, 08:04:25 PM »
Just wanted to report that wabisukenohana did a new version of his "Youtube Browser for Classilla" 2 weeks ago. This pice of software is abolutely great and works now as well with YT ssl and all the latest changes  they did. It even brings YT back to the very first G3/233 Macs (in small resolutions) and is really usable with nice G4 machines.

Another nice effect is, you can enjoy YT without all the nasty commercials! ;)

http://page.freett.com/macos9/YTBrowser9/YTBfC.html

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2015, 08:40:54 PM »
wow.. am i dreaming??  ;D

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2015, 10:10:43 PM »
Wonderful! I looked for a newer, working version in January, but to no vain.
Great to be able to use Youtube in OS9 again :)

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2015, 07:01:10 AM »
Hey that's GREAT! I'll have to check that out... haven't had the G4 online in about 6 years! ;D

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015, 09:27:26 AM »
Awesome news!

Please, Mat, tell Wabisukenohana to join the forum.
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YTBfC is a Byblos stele that enables Classilla to play YouTube videos.

What is a Byblos stele?

https://code.google.com/p/classilla/wiki/ByblosSteleDocs

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Like the famous Rosetta Stone stele which enabled the translation of Egyptian hieroglyphs from ancient Greek and Demotic scripts (and Apple's Rosetta, allowing superior older PowerPC code to run on newer inferior x86 processors), the Byblos steles you can create for Classilla can allow modern web pages to be rewritten dynamically for Classilla's older layout engine and those of us continuously inhabiting Mac OS 9.


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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2015, 05:48:06 PM »
Please, Mat, tell Wabisukenohana to join the forum.
Well, I just want to make sure my "non music postings" are really welcome and do not get deleted like sometimes in the past. If that is ok for everybody, I can go on and advertize this forum for sure.

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2015, 06:16:42 PM »
you are more than welcome mat...  ;D
as u can see we have sections for "Classic discussions" as per the header
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The Mac OS 9 Lives Forum will now be dedicated to...
1) Installing, Maintaining, and Extending the functionality of Mac OS 9
2) Installing Digital Audio Software & Music/MIDI Hardware interfaces
3) General questions for Mac OS 9 enthusiasts.

i dont remember deleting your posts tho.. i think that was an accident that we never really figured out the cause to..
following my early 2014 meltdown :D im not even an admin anymore if u didnt notice

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 08:46:52 AM »
When I try to use YTBfC, it says "not found"... Did YouTube change again? I have Flash 7 and YTBfC installed.
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015, 01:28:05 PM »
Yes, YT changed again the real paths to the streams, ... at the moment YTBFC is not working. Recently I need to download the stuff with some webservice and use FLVPalyer9 for watching YT videos at Mac OS 9. And I do not reach Wabisukenohana :-(

But for a good JavaScript developer it is maybe a simple thing to solve. The changes between the last 2 versions of YouTube Browser for Classilla were a few characters in the JS-code,

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2018, 11:07:39 PM »
I can't seem to locate a working youtube downloader that works under Classilla. Or at least a working standalone app. Any of them I see in a google search can't be rendered and have incompatible websites. I hope Classilla gets a update eventually.

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 07:06:03 AM »
There is a proof of concept solution here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/youtube-app-for-mac-os-9.2162971/#post-26965457

I say proof of concept because as much as I try, the website is too variable to reproduce useable results - for me, time to download a video could be from 2 minutes to downloading a corrupt file after half hour...or failing altogether.

What is very interesting in all this though, is the realisation through changing the file type and creator, QuickTime does have the required codec to play 3gp files!

This does mean to anyone versed in scripting, the previous downloader/player could be modified to parse the .3gp file instead of the .flv and play it back in QuickTime.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 04:25:05 AM by Dronecatcher »

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2019, 11:25:02 AM »
To summarize:

Browse "YouTube" using classilla on the less bloated genyoutube.net

Get the 3gp file if available

Use FileType (version 1.0.1) to change the "creator" and "type"
Creator = TVOD
type = mpg4

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I can send screenshots later

Known codecs
3ivx
Divx
Sorenson
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Here is the Pismo playing a 700x300 MPEG-1 file.



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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2019, 11:28:48 AM »
What I see interesting here, as Dronecatcher noted on the MacRumors post is that Quicktime can play 3gp files, but you have to change using filetype to "fool" Quicktime.
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2019, 09:26:36 AM »
Just an FYI side note; for those that do not know we have discussed the "Filetype" OS 9 Utility, you can get it here

http://www.frederikseiffert.de/filetype/

There are many reasons to have this utility available in Mac OS 9, you can easily fix "Broken" files that were bounced to a PC

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2019, 11:43:08 AM »
It works!

But note you must have QuickTime 6.
QT5 just ignores the files.

As mentioned, sometimes the downloads fail - I just get a spinning cursor. Not identified a pattern yet.
Of course, changing the type/creator can be done with any suitable utility.

I guess that's my evening planned...

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 10:34:13 AM »
This works... even if it's 240p it's better than nothing.

Can an Applescript be made in order to drop the .3gp file on it and then magically convert it with FileType and open Quicktime?


It's been too long since I script anything and it was always in OS X.

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2019, 06:35:34 AM »
This works... even if it's 240p it's better than nothing.

Can an Applescript be made in order to drop the .3gp file on it and then magically convert it with FileType and open Quicktime?


It's been too long since I script anything and it was always in OS X.

My version converts filetype with a droplet - launching is only one more click.

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2019, 08:00:33 PM »
Genyoutube seems to have become unuable in Classilla due to TLS/https issues... any alternatives?
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2019, 06:34:31 AM »
honestly.. if u want to watch ayoutube video
just use your smartphone
why do it on a vintage mac that predates youtube itself?

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2019, 07:24:12 AM »
My version converts filetype with a droplet - launching is only one more click.

"a better finder rename" and its bigger brother "file manipulator" support making droplets.

i have a whole bunch of such droplets which f.e. change type/creator based on extension supporting my daily workflow on crossplatform development or audio work.
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2019, 09:13:26 PM »
honestly.. if u want to watch ayoutube video
just use your smartphone
why do it on a vintage mac that predates youtube itself?
Honestly, if you are interrested in excoriating Mac OS 9, a forum of Mac OS 9 users and lovers is perhaps the wrong place for you. I am not going to argue with you about serious reasons of different people, why watchig youtube with Mac OS 9 is interresting. I for example still use no other OS at all. So, your posting is nothing more than a classical trolling.

Usually I'd follow the advice not to "feed the troll" like I did with you the last years. But this time somebody really needs to tell you to leave alone very new users like GigaG above! New users may think that you are an integral part of this forum and important, as they don't know the history of your at least four users. And as they don't know that you are accepted and it could be called on probation here, and not 100% welcome. So they may feel awed, what is absolutely not necessary!
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2019, 11:12:28 PM »
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2020, 09:36:51 PM »
As one who started life on the Mac with OS 9.0, barely knew OS 8, I really have a heart for this OS and believe it can be revised for modern use. Getting YouTube to run on OS 9 is very interesting and gives me plenty of hope that this forums members can make OS 9 work for the modern world. OS 9 has more potential than we know.

I remember in 1999, March I think maybe it was in Summer when I worked for CompUSA abd bought my 1st PowerMac G4 for 1599.99, a sawtooth - I also bought OS 9 retail (still have it) and AppleWorks 6.5.4. I also bought Mac OS X Server v1.23. I have 3 PowerPC Macs today - sadly, I had to part ways with my Sawtooth 350 at the time.

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2020, 01:09:33 PM »
What I see interesting here, as Dronecatcher noted on the MacRumors post is that Quicktime can play 3gp files, but you have to change using filetype to "fool" Quicktime.

3gp is a container and supports H263 and H264. it seems that youtube mostly streams it as H263, probably because there are a lot of old phones which dont support higher codecs - just as OS9.

why this plays after changing the type remains a mystery (i guess the container is ignored if  the type doenst fit to it) - however the same method would work for a .avi, too (with a known codec... rare but exists, mostly 263 but also also older divx if you have that installed.)
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2020, 04:05:26 PM »
Hello,
I am new in the world of classic Macintosh.
I just found and revived an old Power Macintosh 9600/350 ca. one week ago.
And I am actually writing this message on that fascinating machine using Classilla.
However, I wonder, if it is still possible to download Youtube videos or at least mp3-files in OS 9 somehow?
That would be awesome.
I have tried out several Youtube-converter sites but they do not work here.
But is there still an option to do it?

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2020, 07:28:46 PM »
https://www.genyt.mobi/
http://www.genyt.mobi/

but seems down atm (cloudflare side)

all other sites use java7 and/or greasemonkey scripts, that is miles away from classic mac os or even any PPC. :)
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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2020, 08:31:29 AM »
Hello back again from my Macintosh and thank you for your answer!
Well, you are right, unfortunately the servers are down...
I hope that they will run again soon.

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2020, 01:11:10 AM »
https://www.genyt.mobi/
http://www.genyt.mobi/

but seems down atm (cloudflare side)

all other sites use java7 and/or greasemonkey scripts, that is miles away from classic mac os or even any PPC. :)

You can use Java 7 on Leopard, technically. OpenJDK. Tiger comes close with real Java 6 (Developer Preview). Will Snow Leo on PPC be able to go higher than 7?

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Re: Youtube with Mac OS 9
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2020, 01:36:41 AM »
as of today there are probably more problems that that, the certificates wont work with safari or TFF either.

not to speak of OS9 :)
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